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Gregarios	Posted - 2003.09.02 12:24:00 - [1] Having decided to venture out to a low security sector to do a bit of scouting, i bought insurance for my then current ship. While i was out scouting I was unfortunate to come into a blockade and got blasted into tiny little pieces. While i accept that i went looking in a dangerous area, shouldn't my insurance pay out if i lose my ship? Do Not Disturb!, I'm Disturbed enough as it is!
Gregarios Interstellar Horizons	Posted - 2003.09.02 12:24:00 - [2] Having decided to venture out to a low security sector to do a bit of scouting, i bought insurance for my then current ship. While i was out scouting I was unfortunate to come into a blockade and got blasted into tiny little pieces. While i accept that i went looking in a dangerous area, shouldn't my insurance pay out if i lose my ship? Do Not Disturb!, I'm Disturbed enough as it is!
Psychic Sue	Posted - 2003.09.02 12:28:00 - [3] it does. you have to insure your ship though. it will last a week only so maybe it ran out.
Psychic Sue Minmatar	Posted - 2003.09.02 12:28:00 - [4] it does. you have to insure your ship though. it will last a week only so maybe it ran out.
TheHornet	Posted - 2003.09.02 14:01:00 - [5] no matter where you are / what you do.. the insurance will pay you will get the summ you defined in your contract but care - the insurance last (only) one week - you will not receive a warning message, after the contract run out - the insurance is ship-related (not related to you) greetings
TheHornet Gallente Mercenaries of Andosia Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2003.09.02 14:01:00 - [6] no matter where you are / what you do.. the insurance will pay you will get the summ you defined in your contract but care - the insurance last (only) one week - you will not receive a warning message, after the contract run out - the insurance is ship-related (not related to you) greetings
Gregarios	Posted - 2003.09.04 12:36:00 - [7] Yes I am aware of those two conditions, i bought the insurance for my ship 25mins before setting off on that little excursion. Do Not Disturb!, I'm Disturbed enough as it is!
Gregarios Interstellar Horizons	Posted - 2003.09.04 12:36:00 - [8] Yes I am aware of those two conditions, i bought the insurance for my ship 25mins before setting off on that little excursion. Do Not Disturb!, I'm Disturbed enough as it is!
Toshiro Hasegawa	Posted - 2003.09.04 12:44:00 - [9] Check your wallet .. sub tab journal or transactions to see if the payment was made. It is too to double check the insurance, obviously. I tripple check before leaving when i get insurance, usualy im 2/3 of the way to the bistot before i remember i didnt get insurance. I would also suggest you send it a bug report, maybe it was an error on your part, maybe it is a bug. Reporting it is the best thing to do. That way if there is an issue, the devs will have some info to help them fix it. - History is the Study of Change
Toshiro Hasegawa Caldari 23rd Armor	Posted - 2003.09.04 12:44:00 - [10] Check your wallet .. sub tab journal or transactions to see if the payment was made. It is too to double check the insurance, obviously. I tripple check before leaving when i get insurance, usualy im 2/3 of the way to the bistot before i remember i didnt get insurance. I would also suggest you send it a bug report, maybe it was an error on your part, maybe it is a bug. Reporting it is the best thing to do. That way if there is an issue, the devs will have some info to help them fix it. - History is the Study of Change
Gregarios	Posted - 2003.09.08 12:23:00 - [11] you mean the approximatly 287,000isk thats listed yes, i've sent several petitions with no response. Do Not Disturb!, I'm Disturbed enough as it is!
Gregarios Interstellar Horizons	Posted - 2003.09.08 12:23:00 - [12] you mean the approximatly 287,000isk thats listed yes, i've sent several petitions with no response. Do Not Disturb!, I'm Disturbed enough as it is!
Naz Farooq	Posted - 2003.09.08 18:21:00 - [13] I'm a newb and I'm curious: is insurance fraud a problem in-game? I would imagine it would be pretty easy to have a corp where one dude pumps out cheap ships that he hands off to folks to get ensured for the max and then blown up quickly. Does the math not work out or what? Sure, everyone supports saving Einstein's brain, but when you put it in the body of a Great White Shark, suddenly you've "gone too far".
Naz Farooq Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2003.09.08 18:21:00 - [14] I'm a newb and I'm curious: is insurance fraud a problem in-game? I would imagine it would be pretty easy to have a corp where one dude pumps out cheap ships that he hands off to folks to get ensured for the max and then blown up quickly. Does the math not work out or what? Sure, everyone supports saving Einstein's brain, but when you put it in the body of a Great White Shark, suddenly you've "gone too far".
Jojin	Posted - 2003.09.09 05:39:00 - [15] Insurance fraud is possible, but some would state the return value on committing insurance fraud is not high enough to make it worth the while. The thought is if a character is skilled enough to produce a vessel at the lowest possible cost, then the same character should be skilled enough to make more money elsewhere. For instance, it costs around 158k (using NPC valued minerals and doubling the price of Zydrine and Megacyte) to build a Rifter frigate given you have decent research and high production efficiency. The Insurance cost for the vessel is 84K and the payout is 280K. So in the end you would only make about 38k per vessel destroyed. The total yield would be a little less based upon where you rent the factory from, build time and taxes. I donÆt know how long it takes to get the vessel destroyed and get the claim money, but some do consider it worth the effect. I would also imagine the yield would be higher for cruisers and other vessels based upon their type.
Jojin Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2003.09.09 05:39:00 - [16] Insurance fraud is possible, but some would state the return value on committing insurance fraud is not high enough to make it worth the while. The thought is if a character is skilled enough to produce a vessel at the lowest possible cost, then the same character should be skilled enough to make more money elsewhere. For instance, it costs around 158k (using NPC valued minerals and doubling the price of Zydrine and Megacyte) to build a Rifter frigate given you have decent research and high production efficiency. The Insurance cost for the vessel is 84K and the payout is 280K. So in the end you would only make about 38k per vessel destroyed. The total yield would be a little less based upon where you rent the factory from, build time and taxes. I donÆt know how long it takes to get the vessel destroyed and get the claim money, but some do consider it worth the effect. I would also imagine the yield would be higher for cruisers and other vessels based upon their type.
Laxxor Borocillicase	Posted - 2007.07.10 23:01:00 - [17] I would venture that there is a problem with insurance (either as a result of the latest patch or something deeper) as the other night I was informed by CONCORDE that they very very sorry for the loss of my ship and have given me a courtesy velator and some trit. Fine, apart from I have not lost a ship that has not already been catered for in previous insurance transactions...
Gartel Reiman Project F3	Posted - 2007.07.10 23:03:00 - [18] Argh, a most potent of necromancers! IBTL.
Ephemeral Waves The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.10 23:40:00 - [19] Originally by: Laxxor Borocillicase I would venture that there is a problem with insurance (either as a result of the latest patch or something deeper) as the other night I was informed by CONCORDE that they very very sorry for the loss of my ship and have given me a courtesy velator and some trit. Fine, apart from I have not lost a ship that has not already been catered for in previous insurance transactions... Besides the fact that you are necro'ing a VERY dead thread and it will soon be locked... There are 2 says that you could have gotten that message aside from actually losing a ship: 1) Somebody else could have been using a ship that EvE had flagged as belonging to you and lost it. Thus EvE will replace it; 2) You were flying around in a POD and docked. EvE sees you docking in a POD and gives you a ship. If you run around all over the place in a POD docking in every station you see, you will get a velator in every station that you dock in. Eph. I make sigs
Vincenzo Delloro Amarr Lux et Veritas	Posted - 2007.07.10 23:57:00 - [20] Originally by: Laxxor Borocillicase I would venture that there is a problem with insurance (either as a result of the latest patch or something deeper) as the other night I was informed by CONCORDE that they very very sorry for the loss of my ship and have given me a courtesy velator and some trit. Fine, apart from I have not lost a ship that has not already been catered for in previous insurance transactions... You'll get that if your ship is blown up in a system where you have no other ships in hangars. It's noob-proofing things so new players aren't left without any ship at all.
Tkar vonBiggendorf Gallente Snake Eyes Inc Hell Hounds	Posted - 2007.07.11 00:35:00 - [21] Since this thread was necro'd, before any newbies get confused: Insurance is now for 12 weeks, not one.
Gaius Sejanus Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.07.11 01:58:00 - [22] There I was, reading, when this bizarre repetition of "Insurance lasts 1 week" kept popping up. One time is someone who doesn't know any better, but 2 times begats suspicion. Thread from 2003? Oh, well then. Damn necros.
WhitePhantom Gallente Edenists	Posted - 2007.07.11 02:37:00 - [23] Edited by: WhitePhantom on 11/07/2007 02:37:20 Originally by: Psychic Sue it does. you have to insure your ship though. it will last a week only so maybe it ran out. Who was the fool that bumped this thread?

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