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Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
258
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Posted - 2013.11.20 10:40:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:No matter how times I read it, I am not sure what your OP is on about.
However Customs Code Expertise ONLY affects the NPC taxes placed on transactions at Player Owned Customs Offices. Not the Interbus Owned Customs Offices. And since HS POCOs will increase for a good while that skill does have a use ;) yeah yeah yeah it is. But you know people can simply set a 99% player rate for non-excellent people to make this skill " uesless" Well then pay 99% tax or look for a different POCO. Yes but no. If you thinking about how much you need to pay to change your PI base. And how much you can get from it. You will find out it is too much risk to put money in this area. Find out it is much more better to go to one wormhole or 0.0 sec to play PI. And then, you will give up high sec PI.
well thats a good thing right? i mean more peeps out of high sec , esp the older guys wtf tey doing there in teh first place , let newbros have high sec The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
756
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Posted - 2013.11.20 11:12:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:No matter how times I read it, I am not sure what your OP is on about.
However Customs Code Expertise ONLY affects the NPC taxes placed on transactions at Player Owned Customs Offices. Not the Interbus Owned Customs Offices. And since HS POCOs will increase for a good while that skill does have a use ;) yeah yeah yeah it is. But you know people can simply set a 99% player rate for non-excellent people to make this skill " uesless" Well then pay 99% tax or look for a different POCO. Yes but no. If you thinking about how much you need to pay to change your PI base. And how much you can get from it. You will find out it is too much risk to put money in this area. Find out it is much more better to go to one wormhole or 0.0 sec to play PI. And then, you will give up high sec PI.
Except that people already did that if they were ballsy enough to operate in low / null / wh in the first place, because the yield is so much better and taxes can be affected by players. However it makes no difference whether a production planet is placed in hisec or lowsec now, apart from the NPC tax on hisec POCO's which - surprise, surprise - can be diminished with a skill. How is this not usefull for hisec production planet runners? It's now up to the players to offer others agreeable tax and stability, or they won't make a return on investment on the damn things. |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 11:29:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:No matter how times I read it, I am not sure what your OP is on about.
However Customs Code Expertise ONLY affects the NPC taxes placed on transactions at Player Owned Customs Offices. Not the Interbus Owned Customs Offices. And since HS POCOs will increase for a good while that skill does have a use ;) yeah yeah yeah it is. But you know people can simply set a 99% player rate for non-excellent people to make this skill " uesless" Well then pay 99% tax or look for a different POCO. Yes but no. If you thinking about how much you need to pay to change your PI base. And how much you can get from it. You will find out it is too much risk to put money in this area. Find out it is much more better to go to one wormhole or 0.0 sec to play PI. And then, you will give up high sec PI. well thats a good thing right? i mean more peeps out of high sec , esp the older guys wtf tey doing there in teh first place , let newbros have high sec
yes, it is. |

Leonardo Diom
UR Romex Outback Dustm3n
11
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Posted - 2013.11.20 14:46:00 -
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These quotes are getting beyond control! |

Mythrandier
Spacelane Salvage
202
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Posted - 2013.11.20 14:54:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Holy ****, humanity is domed.
Yup, between GD and COAD here, FSTDT.com and Fox GÇ£newsGÇ¥ I can confirm that as a species, we are pretty much ******. "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2077
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Posted - 2013.11.20 15:06:00 -
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Funny thing it, I know the plans of a few of the larger groups putting out POCOs:
Set a reasonable tax rate for everyone who's not Red. Sit back and collect the ISK.
And for those groups, most people aren't red. Especially people who never leave high-sec. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |

Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
590
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Posted - 2013.11.20 15:10:00 -
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ITT The OP misunderstands the skillbook, gets corrected, then claims it was about high sec being too safe anyway.
Also, posting in stealth "Ebil gewns have stolen all the POCOs" thread |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17448
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Posted - 2013.11.20 15:19:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote:high sec means player is protect by CONCORD and under their rules. That's means you still need to pay attention on some kind of laws when you play this game in high sec. No. That is not the meaning of highsec.
Highsec is simply a place where aggression comes at a cost. You can pay it in assets (suicide gank) or in ISK (wardec). In this place, players can gamble on other players' miserliness to provide a layer ofGǪ not security, really, but disincentive to attack anyone and everyone they see.
The new skill, or indeed anything related to PI, does not affect the meaning of highsec in any way whatsoever.
Quote:The CONCORD and behind it, high sec NPC charged environment can be think as real world government. If a government lost their strength or influence, a country will fall down to chaos. Yeah, no. That's not how either CONCORD or the empires work. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4610
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Posted - 2013.11.20 15:37:00 -
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Mythrandier wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Holy ****, humanity is domed. Yup, between GD and COAD here, FSTDT.com and Fox GÇ£newsGÇ¥ I can confirm that as a species, we are pretty much ******. Not sure about the others, but YOU definitely understood me.
edit: da fuq is fstdt.com ... O_O |

Mythrandier
Spacelane Salvage
203
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Posted - 2013.11.20 16:06:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Mythrandier wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Holy ****, humanity is domed. Yup, between GD and COAD here, FSTDT.com and Fox GÇ£newsGÇ¥ I can confirm that as a species, we are pretty much ******. Not sure about the others, but YOU definitely understood me. edit: da fuq is fstdt.com ... O_O
Look it up if you want whatGÇÖs left of your faith in humanity destroyed. It is AMAZING that so much ignorance still exists in the digital age...
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |

Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
311
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Posted - 2013.11.20 16:10:00 -
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Janna Sway wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Our high sec is dying. Maybe , in next update, NPC station will be the next victim of CCP's strategies. Evil CCP! We need a messiah in New Eden. Step up, Nicholas. Save the universe...
High sec already has a saviour here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2077
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Posted - 2013.11.20 17:37:00 -
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Mythrandier wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Mythrandier wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Holy ****, humanity is domed. Yup, between GD and COAD here, FSTDT.com and Fox GÇ£newsGÇ¥ I can confirm that as a species, we are pretty much ******. Not sure about the others, but YOU definitely understood me. edit: da fuq is fstdt.com ... O_O Look it up if you want whatGÇÖs left of your faith in humanity destroyed. It is AMAZING that so much ignorance still exists in the digital age...
If you haven't already, have a read of Brave New World.
Might take the shine off that amazement. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
590
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Posted - 2013.11.20 17:55:00 -
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Six years and you're worried about a skill to reduce the npc tax on hi sec pocos? ...or that CONCORD doesn't protect COs anymore?....or you're worried there are more things being changed in EVE to support groups of players rather than entitled imbeciles who like to go brain dead doing mostly solo afk activities? |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:14:00 -
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Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Six years and you're worried about a skill to reduce the npc tax on hi sec pocos? ...or that CONCORD doesn't protect COs anymore?....or you're worried there are more things being changed in EVE to support groups of players rather than entitled imbeciles who like to go brain dead doing mostly solo afk activities?
And in this six year , i have zero skill point on battle skills in my main ID, most of the time i only use one ID at a time because my computer is an old fashion one. What else can i do? fighting with lvl 1 small energy gun? or my Level 3 firgate ? I like to fight a battle with market , ISK and EXCEL . For me , every percent is the key point to win. |

Leonardo Diom
UR Romex Outback Dustm3n
14
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:22:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote: And in this six year , i have zero skill point on battle skills in my main ID, most of the time i only use one ID at a time because my computer is an old fashion one. What else can i do? fighting with lvl 1 small energy gun? or my Level 3 firgate ?
Then that's what you're going to want to work on. Just like in real life, the playing field in EVE changes. Do what humans do best: adapt. |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:34:00 -
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Leonardo Diom wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote: And in this six year , i have zero skill point on battle skills in my main ID, most of the time i only use one ID at a time because my computer is an old fashion one. What else can i do? fighting with lvl 1 small energy gun? or my Level 3 firgate ?
Then that's what you're going to want to work on. Just like in real life, the playing field in EVE changes. Do what humans do best: adapt.
yeah and more, promote and earn extra money in this change. |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
469
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:43:00 -
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I've got a solution for your "problem" of "every good planet getting 99% tax to non-excellent players".
Interact with others who are playing the game.
Ground-breaking. Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |

Daniel Jackson
Liandri Corporation Liandri Covenant
16
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:43:00 -
[48] - Quote
Lugalbandak wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:No matter how times I read it, I am not sure what your OP is on about.
However Customs Code Expertise ONLY affects the NPC taxes placed on transactions at Player Owned Customs Offices. Not the Interbus Owned Customs Offices. And since HS POCOs will increase for a good while that skill does have a use ;) yeah yeah yeah it is. But you know people can simply set a 99% player rate for non-excellent people to make this skill " uesless" Well then pay 99% tax or look for a different POCO. Yes but no. If you thinking about how much you need to pay to change your PI base. And how much you can get from it. You will find out it is too much risk to put money in this area. Find out it is much more better to go to one wormhole or 0.0 sec to play PI. And then, you will give up high sec PI. well thats a good thing right? i mean more peeps out of high sec , esp the older guys wtf tey doing there in teh first place , let newbros have high sec hey i been playing for 10 years and i live in highsec, ya losing the pocos was saddening but like it was only a little side money not effecting me too much if any at all I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4610
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:49:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Mythrandier wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Mythrandier wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Holy ****, humanity is domed. Yup, between GD and COAD here, FSTDT.com and Fox GÇ£newsGÇ¥ I can confirm that as a species, we are pretty much ******. Not sure about the others, but YOU definitely understood me. edit: da fuq is fstdt.com ... O_O Look it up if you want whatGÇÖs left of your faith in humanity destroyed. It is AMAZING that so much ignorance still exists in the digital age... If you haven't already, have a read of Brave New World. Might take the shine off that amazement. I have. I also have read brave new world, which we live to a huge extent anyway already.
Anyhow ... faith in humanity lost.
You're all going to die. (early) |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
590
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:02:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote:Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Six years and you're worried about a skill to reduce the npc tax on hi sec pocos? ...or that CONCORD doesn't protect COs anymore?....or you're worried there are more things being changed in EVE to support groups of players rather than entitled imbeciles who like to go brain dead doing mostly solo afk activities? And in this six year , What else can i do?
Cry on the forums then go back to wacking off to youporn while afk mining I guess?
|

Eru GoEller
State War Academy Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:48:00 -
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Janna Sway wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Our high sec is dying. Maybe , in next update, NPC station will be the next victim of CCP's strategies. Evil CCP! We need a messiah in New Eden. Step up, Nicholas. Save the universe... May i suggest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgdBDxIAAgY to be hired, although his name is Bob. But he is cooler then Nicholas, he can possess us all |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1061
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:57:00 -
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Sorry I may have misread
Didnt this start off as
"CCP, why you not think ahead when this skill become obsolete"
Answer was
"Skill not obsolete, skill have current function"
To which OP replied
"Ah so High Sec is dying"
What did I miss? High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1061
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:58:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:
You're all going to die. (early)
Even me? High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |

Leonardo Diom
UR Romex Outback Dustm3n
15
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:58:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:
Sorry I may have misread
Didnt this start off as
"CCP, why you not think ahead when this skill become obsolete"
Answer was
"Skill not obsolete, skill have current function"
To which OP replied
"Ah so High Sec is dying"
What did I miss?
I think you missed the moment OP became confused. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:04:00 -
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Leonardo Diom wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:
Sorry I may have misread
Didnt this start off as
"CCP, why you not think ahead when this skill become obsolete"
Answer was
"Skill not obsolete, skill have current function"
To which OP replied
"Ah so High Sec is dying"
What did I miss?
I think you missed the moment OP became confused.
... and no-one corrected him ... they all just went off topic :D
To clarify:
Customs Code Expertise has NO EFFECT on any of the NPC custom houses whether in high or low. It does not change the interbus tax at all.
What Custom Code Expertise actually DOES do is reduce the empire tax component of the player owned custom houses in highsec (there is no empire tax component in losec).
So ........... Lowsec Interbus Custom House - no effect Highsec Interbus Custom House - no effect Lowsec POCO - no effect Highsec POCO - reduces Empire tax component
Clear ???
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Toshiro Ozuwara
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
293
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:06:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote:Our high sec is dying. Maybe , in next update, NPC station will be the next victim of CCP's strategies. We can only hope friend, we can only hope. We teach ruthlessness and hazing. No blues. Kill everything.
In-game channel - Join Sniggwaffe |

Leonardo Diom
UR Romex Outback Dustm3n
15
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:06:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Leonardo Diom wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:
Sorry I may have misread
Didnt this start off as
"CCP, why you not think ahead when this skill become obsolete"
Answer was
"Skill not obsolete, skill have current function"
To which OP replied
"Ah so High Sec is dying"
What did I miss?
I think you missed the moment OP became confused. ... and no-one corrected him ... they all just went off topic :D To clarify: Customs Code Expertise has NO EFFECT on any of the NPC custom houses whether in high or low. It does not change the interbus tax at all. What Custom Code Expertise actually DOES do is reduce the empire tax component of the player owned custom houses in highsec (there is no empire tax component in losec). So ........... Lowsec Interbus Custom House - no effect Highsec Interbus Custom House - no effect Lowsec POCO - no effect Highsec POCO - reduces Empire tax component Clear ???
But high sec is dead!
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1061
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:08:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote: Clear ???
Yup, was clear to me when I read the skill
POCOS put me in Torpor though
Or as they say in Vampire: The Masquerade; "Into Reinforced"
Wait..... High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:25:00 -
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Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Six years and you're worried about a skill to reduce the npc tax on hi sec pocos? ...or that CONCORD doesn't protect COs anymore?....or you're worried there are more things being changed in EVE to support groups of players rather than entitled imbeciles who like to go brain dead doing mostly solo afk activities? And in this six year , What else can i do? Cry on the forums then go back to wacking off to youporn while afk mining I guess?
sorry, i don't do those low level worker's job who can only earn their ISK by paying endless physical labour like mining or farming. I am honest merchant. earn money in market. by calculating.
In addition, you know **** things is bad for your health so i recommend you to release your sexual desire on your girlfriend. Otherwise you need medicine treatment or sterilization operation. Trust me, you will luckily survive. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1061
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:27:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote:
sorry, i don't do those low level worker's job who can only earn their ISK by paying endless physical labour like mining or farming. I am honest merchant. earn money in market. by calculating..
And yet reading is has am being difficult for thee?
Less maths
More Creme Anglais, pour favour bitte High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |
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