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Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:33:00 -
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We all know there are never lack of violence in this universe. Like those high sec ganker.
I love gankers actually. Because they increase the whole need of goods. That's partly the strength of our market. And I think CCP want to improve this kind of strength by open high sec POCOs. This's ... ... somehow , good for high sec. For the reason I have said right before. In such a long time CCP want to drive player from high sec to 0.0 and low sec, like cut high sec mission rewards, reduse high sec ore reserves, and so on. In the other hand, high security level has no good effect on your character but low security level is somehow " totally no harm" .Today, they give gankers another good way of playing this game : set up high tax rate POCOs.
But, i don't understand why CCP design the skill: " Customs Code Expertise" which only affect on NPC customs office. The total number of NPC Customs office is limited and can never increase but easily die out one day. Why we need such a skill that someday it will have nothing useful anymore anyhow. Only in today, most of the NPC customs office near market center like Jita and Dodixie has changed to POCOs. And the number of NPC customs office will continuing decrease in the future.
I just want to know if someday all of the NPC custom office die out. What will CCP want to say to this skill.
Trust me, its not a fancy , its not so hard to achieve. We all know there are never lack of violence in this universe. Destroying something no guard, no harm just like those new players and Industry ship is just a simple one-shoot.
Our high sec is dying. Maybe , in next update, NPC station will be the next victim of CCP's strategies. |

Noriko Mai
1053
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:37:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote:We all know there are never lack of violence in this universe. Like those high sec ganker.
I love gankers actually. Because they increase the whole need of goods. That's partly the strength of our market. And I think CCP want to improve this kind of strength by open high sec POCOs. This's ... ... somehow , good for high sec. For the reason I have said right before. In such a long time CCP want to drive player from high sec to 0.0 and low sec, like cut high sec mission rewards, reduse high sec ore reserves, and so on. In the other hand, high security level has no good effect on your character but low security level is somehow " totally no harm" .Today, they give gankers another good way of playing this game : set up high tax rate POCOs.
But, i don't understand why CCP design the skill: " Customs Code Expertise" which only affect on NPC customs office. The total number of NPC Customs office is limited and can never increase but easily die out one day. Why we need such a skill that someday it will have nothing useful anymore anyhow. Only in today, most of the NPC customs office near market center like Jita and Dodixie has changed to POCOs. And the number of NPC customs office will continuing decrease in the future.
I just want to know if someday all of the NPC custom office die out. What will CCP want to say to this skill.
Trust me, its not a fancy , its not so hard to achieve. We all know there are never lack of violence in this universe. Destroying something no guard, no harm just like those new players and Industry ship is just a simple one-shoot.
Our high sec is dying. Maybe , in next update, NPC station will be the next victim of CCP's strategies. Because in HS the tax is NPC tax + Owner tax. Maybe read patch notes next time...
- Player Owned Customs Offices in Hi-Sec will have an NPC tax rate of 10% for export, 5% for import.
- New Skill: Customs Code Expertise reduces the NPC tax rate by 10% per level.
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Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:44:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:We all know there are never lack of violence in this universe. Like those high sec ganker.
I love gankers actually. Because they increase the whole need of goods. That's partly the strength of our market. And I think CCP want to improve this kind of strength by open high sec POCOs. This's ... ... somehow , good for high sec. For the reason I have said right before. In such a long time CCP want to drive player from high sec to 0.0 and low sec, like cut high sec mission rewards, reduse high sec ore reserves, and so on. In the other hand, high security level has no good effect on your character but low security level is somehow " totally no harm" .Today, they give gankers another good way of playing this game : set up high tax rate POCOs.
But, i don't understand why CCP design the skill: " Customs Code Expertise" which only affect on NPC customs office. The total number of NPC Customs office is limited and can never increase but easily die out one day. Why we need such a skill that someday it will have nothing useful anymore anyhow. Only in today, most of the NPC customs office near market center like Jita and Dodixie has changed to POCOs. And the number of NPC customs office will continuing decrease in the future.
I just want to know if someday all of the NPC custom office die out. What will CCP want to say to this skill.
Trust me, its not a fancy , its not so hard to achieve. We all know there are never lack of violence in this universe. Destroying something no guard, no harm just like those new players and Industry ship is just a simple one-shoot.
Our high sec is dying. Maybe , in next update, NPC station will be the next victim of CCP's strategies. Because in HS the tax is NPC tax + Owner tax. Maybe read patch notes next time...
- Player Owned Customs Offices in Hi-Sec will have an NPC tax rate of 10% for export, 5% for import.
- New Skill: Customs Code Expertise reduces the NPC tax rate by 10% per level.
Actually the answer is not tax rate itself. Its about CCP is killing the meaning of high sec. |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
20
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:56:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote:Actually the answer is not tax rate itself. Its about CCP is killing the meaning of high sec.
Really?
What is the meaning of highsec and how is it different today than it was yesterday? |

Janna Sway
GeoCorp. Curatores Veritatis Alliance
70
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:58:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote:Our high sec is dying. Maybe , in next update, NPC station will be the next victim of CCP's strategies.
Evil CCP! We need a messiah in New Eden. Step up, Nicholas. Save the universe... |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
7413
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:00:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote: Actually the answer is not tax rate itself. Its about CCP is killing the meaning of high sec.
Please explain the true meaning of highsec and how CCP is killing it. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Noriko Mai
1053
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:04:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote: Actually the answer is not tax rate itself. Its about CCP is killing the meaning of high sec.
Please explain the true meaning of highsec and how CCP is killing it. It is beacuse... you know... this... you know what I mean... this... ...yes... |

KnowUsByTheDead
Old Seers Of Arbitrary Stimulation
718
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:06:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote:
Actually the answer is not tax rate itself. Its about CCP is killing the meaning of high sec.
I, too, seek the answer to this question. If anything, it has ramped up activities in high sec, as everyone from carebears, to griefers, to Goons are grabbing CO's.
But I will quietly await your rebuttal........................................................................................

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |

Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
150
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:11:00 -
[9] - Quote
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:
Actually the answer is not tax rate itself. Its about CCP is killing the meaning of high sec.
I, too, seek the answer to this question. If anything, it has ramped up activities in high sec, as everyone from carebears, to griefers, to Goons are grabbing CO's. But I will quietly await your rebuttal........................................................................................ 
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21335
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Posted - 2013.11.20 02:14:00 -
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He's not coming back  "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?-á http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 07:34:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Actually the answer is not tax rate itself. Its about CCP is killing the meaning of high sec. Really? What is the meaning of highsec and how is it different today than it was yesterday?
high sec means player is protect by CONCORD and under their rules. That's means you still need to pay attention on some kind of laws when you play this game in high sec.
If you want to think more, you need to think about how this game work, highly player-control virtual society is a good place to watch how people think and act. There are lots of research and thesis on this area( if u want to google it, not so hard)
The CONCORD and behind it, high sec NPC charged environment can be think as real world government. If a government lost their strength or influence, a country will fall down to chaos. And now CCP is making it happen, for one more small step, make CONCORD lose their control on high sec custom office.
Everyone know that CCP want more war in this game, for them they can make more $$$$$, for us we can have more fun. But one day, high sec will be another place full of wars and the whole universe will have no place for you to rest. |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 07:46:00 -
[12] - Quote
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote: Actually the answer is not tax rate itself. Its about CCP is killing the meaning of high sec.
Please explain the true meaning of highsec and how CCP is killing it.
please watch #11 |

Kyria Shirako
The Scope Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.11.20 07:47:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote: Everyone know that CCP want more war in this game, for them they can make more $$$$$, for us we can have more fun. But one day, high sec will be another place full of wars and the whole universe will have no place for you to rest.
And James 513 says the mining barge buff was a stone in a road to a completely safe hi-sec.
Whether this POCO thing is a good idea or not, it is impossible for everything to simultaneously be a slippery slope. |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
1314
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Posted - 2013.11.20 07:54:00 -
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The meaning of high-sec is you can be high in security. Nyan |

Janna Sway
GeoCorp. Curatores Veritatis Alliance
74
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Posted - 2013.11.20 08:16:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Actually the answer is not tax rate itself. Its about CCP is killing the meaning of high sec. Really? What is the meaning of highsec and how is it different today than it was yesterday? high sec means player is protect by CONCORD and under their rules. That's means you still need to pay attention on some kind of laws when you play this game in high sec. If you want to think more, you need to think about how this game work, highly player-control virtual society is a good place to watch how people think and act. There are lots of research and thesis on this area( if u want to google it, not so hard) The CONCORD and behind it, high sec NPC charged environment can be think as real world government. If a government lost their strength or influence, a country will fall down to chaos. And now CCP is making it happen, for one more small step, make CONCORD lose their control on high sec custom office. Everyone know that CCP want more war in this game, for them they can make more $$$$$, for us we can have more fun. But one day, high sec will be another place full of wars and the whole universe will have no place for you to rest.
You should spend some time with the lore of the game, before you set up such strange conspiracy theories. Let me tell you, you are walking on very thin ice.
Take care that you do not break in with more such assumptions, for it might get quite difficult to get out of the icy water again. |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 08:22:00 -
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Janna Sway wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Actually the answer is not tax rate itself. Its about CCP is killing the meaning of high sec. Really? What is the meaning of highsec and how is it different today than it was yesterday? high sec means player is protect by CONCORD and under their rules. That's means you still need to pay attention on some kind of laws when you play this game in high sec. If you want to think more, you need to think about how this game work, highly player-control virtual society is a good place to watch how people think and act. There are lots of research and thesis on this area( if u want to google it, not so hard) The CONCORD and behind it, high sec NPC charged environment can be think as real world government. If a government lost their strength or influence, a country will fall down to chaos. And now CCP is making it happen, for one more small step, make CONCORD lose their control on high sec custom office. Everyone know that CCP want more war in this game, for them they can make more $$$$$, for us we can have more fun. But one day, high sec will be another place full of wars and the whole universe will have no place for you to rest. You should spend some time with the lore of the game, before you set up such strange conspiracy theories. Let me tell you, you are walking on very thin ice. Take care that you do not break in with more such assumptions, for it might get quite difficult to get out of the icy water again.
I have play this game for more than 6 years and i think my knowledge is above average rank. still i dont know your meaning about those icy metaphor. |

Leonardo Diom
UR Romex Outback Dustm3n
11
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Posted - 2013.11.20 08:24:00 -
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High sec is dying? This only makes high sec more lively. |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 08:29:00 -
[18] - Quote
Leonardo Diom wrote:High sec is dying? This only makes high sec more lively.
yeah, it is.
And the faster your heart beating, the faster you dying..... It's a nature law |

Leonardo Diom
UR Romex Outback Dustm3n
11
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Posted - 2013.11.20 08:31:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote:Leonardo Diom wrote:High sec is dying? This only makes high sec more lively. yeah, it is. And the faster your heart beating, the faster you dying..... It's a nature law
I'd say it should be " the faster your heart beating, the closer you are to dying" When you are excited your heart will beat faster as well.
There is a line high sec shouldn't cross which would be falling into chaos. So far, no such thing has happened. All is still good. |

Janna Sway
GeoCorp. Curatores Veritatis Alliance
74
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Posted - 2013.11.20 08:34:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote:
I have play this game for more than 6 years and i think my knowledge is above average rank. still i dont know your meaning about those icy metaphor.
Then why do you write such strange things? Have you read the lore of the game at all during the last 6 years? For then it would be clear for you that your strange theories are very unlikely and that you are just wasting time building up a house of thin cards. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4601
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Posted - 2013.11.20 09:21:00 -
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Holy ****, humanity is domed. |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 09:22:00 -
[22] - Quote
Janna Sway wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:
I have play this game for more than 6 years and i think my knowledge is above average rank. still i dont know your meaning about those icy metaphor.
Then why do you write such strange things? Have you read the lore of the game at all during the last 6 years? For then it would be clear for you that your strange theories are very unlikely and that you are just wasting time building up a house of thin cards.
sometime in the history it is a heresy to say sun is the center of universe. Later, it is common sense. And now day, it is stupid, Who knows in the future.
I just state one thinking.
Have you read the lore of the game at all during the last 6 years?
At least i read EULA carefully every time it show up. And i like to think about it. I will be happy to discuss with anyone if he or she want to discuss, not blame or threat with no analysis or experience, or at least respect.
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Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 09:27:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Holy ****, humanity is domed.
yeah like millions of novels, games, movies and rumours. The world is in collision. |

Mangala Solaris
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
702
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Posted - 2013.11.20 09:32:00 -
[24] - Quote
No matter how times I read it, I am not sure what your OP is on about.
However Customs Code Expertise ONLY affects the NPC taxes placed on transactions at Player Owned Customs Offices. Not the Interbus Owned Customs Offices. And since HS POCOs will increase for a good while that skill does have a use ;) Mangala Undocked |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 09:37:00 -
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Mangala Solaris wrote:No matter how times I read it, I am not sure what your OP is on about.
However Customs Code Expertise ONLY affects the NPC taxes placed on transactions at Player Owned Customs Offices. Not the Interbus Owned Customs Offices. And since HS POCOs will increase for a good while that skill does have a use ;)
yeah yeah yeah it is. But you know people can simply set a 99% player rate for non-excellent people to make this skill " uesless" |

Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
408
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Posted - 2013.11.20 09:43:00 -
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Nicholas Sirens wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:No matter how times I read it, I am not sure what your OP is on about.
However Customs Code Expertise ONLY affects the NPC taxes placed on transactions at Player Owned Customs Offices. Not the Interbus Owned Customs Offices. And since HS POCOs will increase for a good while that skill does have a use ;) yeah yeah yeah it is. But you know people can simply set a 99% player rate for non-excellent people to make this skill " uesless"
Well then pay 99% tax or look for a different POCO. RATE LIKE SUBSCRIBE |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 09:49:00 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:No matter how times I read it, I am not sure what your OP is on about.
However Customs Code Expertise ONLY affects the NPC taxes placed on transactions at Player Owned Customs Offices. Not the Interbus Owned Customs Offices. And since HS POCOs will increase for a good while that skill does have a use ;) yeah yeah yeah it is. But you know people can simply set a 99% player rate for non-excellent people to make this skill " uesless" Well then pay 99% tax or look for a different POCO.
Yes but no. If you thinking about how much you need to pay to change your PI base. And how much you can get from it. You will find out it is too much risk to put money in this area. Find out it is much more better to go to one wormhole or 0.0 sec to play PI. And then, you will give up high sec PI. |

Matthew97
Dat Tax
228
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Posted - 2013.11.20 10:00:00 -
[28] - Quote
Posting in stealth remove PVP from game thread.
Also WOW is that way --->
In all seriousness, I don't see what the problem is? The skill works fine as it is :/ Run level 4 missions? Don't want to salvage? Let us salvage for you, and then pay you for it! -áJoin our Channel: Pro Synergy
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Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 10:03:00 -
[29] - Quote
Matthew97 wrote:Posting in stealth remove PVP from game thread.
Also WOW is that way --->
In all seriousness, I don't see what the problem is? The skill works fine as it is :/
didn't really understand ur meaning, can u explain it?
I have played WOW both in PVP serves and PVE serves, and i think i can understand it if u make it more clearly |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6265
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Posted - 2013.11.20 10:18:00 -
[30] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:Holy ****, humanity is domed. We don't have that technology yet. At any rate the planet isn't that far gone yet either. EVE Online - A Rigged Game |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
258
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Posted - 2013.11.20 10:40:00 -
[31] - Quote
Nicholas Sirens wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:No matter how times I read it, I am not sure what your OP is on about.
However Customs Code Expertise ONLY affects the NPC taxes placed on transactions at Player Owned Customs Offices. Not the Interbus Owned Customs Offices. And since HS POCOs will increase for a good while that skill does have a use ;) yeah yeah yeah it is. But you know people can simply set a 99% player rate for non-excellent people to make this skill " uesless" Well then pay 99% tax or look for a different POCO. Yes but no. If you thinking about how much you need to pay to change your PI base. And how much you can get from it. You will find out it is too much risk to put money in this area. Find out it is much more better to go to one wormhole or 0.0 sec to play PI. And then, you will give up high sec PI.
well thats a good thing right? i mean more peeps out of high sec , esp the older guys wtf tey doing there in teh first place , let newbros have high sec The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
756
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Posted - 2013.11.20 11:12:00 -
[32] - Quote
Nicholas Sirens wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:No matter how times I read it, I am not sure what your OP is on about.
However Customs Code Expertise ONLY affects the NPC taxes placed on transactions at Player Owned Customs Offices. Not the Interbus Owned Customs Offices. And since HS POCOs will increase for a good while that skill does have a use ;) yeah yeah yeah it is. But you know people can simply set a 99% player rate for non-excellent people to make this skill " uesless" Well then pay 99% tax or look for a different POCO. Yes but no. If you thinking about how much you need to pay to change your PI base. And how much you can get from it. You will find out it is too much risk to put money in this area. Find out it is much more better to go to one wormhole or 0.0 sec to play PI. And then, you will give up high sec PI.
Except that people already did that if they were ballsy enough to operate in low / null / wh in the first place, because the yield is so much better and taxes can be affected by players. However it makes no difference whether a production planet is placed in hisec or lowsec now, apart from the NPC tax on hisec POCO's which - surprise, surprise - can be diminished with a skill. How is this not usefull for hisec production planet runners? It's now up to the players to offer others agreeable tax and stability, or they won't make a return on investment on the damn things. |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 11:29:00 -
[33] - Quote
Lugalbandak wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:No matter how times I read it, I am not sure what your OP is on about.
However Customs Code Expertise ONLY affects the NPC taxes placed on transactions at Player Owned Customs Offices. Not the Interbus Owned Customs Offices. And since HS POCOs will increase for a good while that skill does have a use ;) yeah yeah yeah it is. But you know people can simply set a 99% player rate for non-excellent people to make this skill " uesless" Well then pay 99% tax or look for a different POCO. Yes but no. If you thinking about how much you need to pay to change your PI base. And how much you can get from it. You will find out it is too much risk to put money in this area. Find out it is much more better to go to one wormhole or 0.0 sec to play PI. And then, you will give up high sec PI. well thats a good thing right? i mean more peeps out of high sec , esp the older guys wtf tey doing there in teh first place , let newbros have high sec
yes, it is. |

Leonardo Diom
UR Romex Outback Dustm3n
11
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Posted - 2013.11.20 14:46:00 -
[34] - Quote
These quotes are getting beyond control! |

Mythrandier
Spacelane Salvage
202
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Posted - 2013.11.20 14:54:00 -
[35] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:Holy ****, humanity is domed.
Yup, between GD and COAD here, FSTDT.com and Fox GÇ£newsGÇ¥ I can confirm that as a species, we are pretty much ******. "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2077
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Posted - 2013.11.20 15:06:00 -
[36] - Quote
Funny thing it, I know the plans of a few of the larger groups putting out POCOs:
Set a reasonable tax rate for everyone who's not Red. Sit back and collect the ISK.
And for those groups, most people aren't red. Especially people who never leave high-sec. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |

Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
590
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Posted - 2013.11.20 15:10:00 -
[37] - Quote
ITT The OP misunderstands the skillbook, gets corrected, then claims it was about high sec being too safe anyway.
Also, posting in stealth "Ebil gewns have stolen all the POCOs" thread |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17448
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Posted - 2013.11.20 15:19:00 -
[38] - Quote
Nicholas Sirens wrote:high sec means player is protect by CONCORD and under their rules. That's means you still need to pay attention on some kind of laws when you play this game in high sec. No. That is not the meaning of highsec.
Highsec is simply a place where aggression comes at a cost. You can pay it in assets (suicide gank) or in ISK (wardec). In this place, players can gamble on other players' miserliness to provide a layer ofGǪ not security, really, but disincentive to attack anyone and everyone they see.
The new skill, or indeed anything related to PI, does not affect the meaning of highsec in any way whatsoever.
Quote:The CONCORD and behind it, high sec NPC charged environment can be think as real world government. If a government lost their strength or influence, a country will fall down to chaos. Yeah, no. That's not how either CONCORD or the empires work. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4610
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Posted - 2013.11.20 15:37:00 -
[39] - Quote
Mythrandier wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Holy ****, humanity is domed. Yup, between GD and COAD here, FSTDT.com and Fox GÇ£newsGÇ¥ I can confirm that as a species, we are pretty much ******. Not sure about the others, but YOU definitely understood me.
edit: da fuq is fstdt.com ... O_O |

Mythrandier
Spacelane Salvage
203
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Posted - 2013.11.20 16:06:00 -
[40] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:Mythrandier wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Holy ****, humanity is domed. Yup, between GD and COAD here, FSTDT.com and Fox GÇ£newsGÇ¥ I can confirm that as a species, we are pretty much ******. Not sure about the others, but YOU definitely understood me. edit: da fuq is fstdt.com ... O_O
Look it up if you want whatGÇÖs left of your faith in humanity destroyed. It is AMAZING that so much ignorance still exists in the digital age...
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |

Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
311
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Posted - 2013.11.20 16:10:00 -
[41] - Quote
Janna Sway wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Our high sec is dying. Maybe , in next update, NPC station will be the next victim of CCP's strategies. Evil CCP! We need a messiah in New Eden. Step up, Nicholas. Save the universe...
High sec already has a saviour here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2077
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Posted - 2013.11.20 17:37:00 -
[42] - Quote
Mythrandier wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Mythrandier wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Holy ****, humanity is domed. Yup, between GD and COAD here, FSTDT.com and Fox GÇ£newsGÇ¥ I can confirm that as a species, we are pretty much ******. Not sure about the others, but YOU definitely understood me. edit: da fuq is fstdt.com ... O_O Look it up if you want whatGÇÖs left of your faith in humanity destroyed. It is AMAZING that so much ignorance still exists in the digital age...
If you haven't already, have a read of Brave New World.
Might take the shine off that amazement. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
590
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Posted - 2013.11.20 17:55:00 -
[43] - Quote
Six years and you're worried about a skill to reduce the npc tax on hi sec pocos? ...or that CONCORD doesn't protect COs anymore?....or you're worried there are more things being changed in EVE to support groups of players rather than entitled imbeciles who like to go brain dead doing mostly solo afk activities? |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:14:00 -
[44] - Quote
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Six years and you're worried about a skill to reduce the npc tax on hi sec pocos? ...or that CONCORD doesn't protect COs anymore?....or you're worried there are more things being changed in EVE to support groups of players rather than entitled imbeciles who like to go brain dead doing mostly solo afk activities?
And in this six year , i have zero skill point on battle skills in my main ID, most of the time i only use one ID at a time because my computer is an old fashion one. What else can i do? fighting with lvl 1 small energy gun? or my Level 3 firgate ? I like to fight a battle with market , ISK and EXCEL . For me , every percent is the key point to win. |

Leonardo Diom
UR Romex Outback Dustm3n
14
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:22:00 -
[45] - Quote
Nicholas Sirens wrote: And in this six year , i have zero skill point on battle skills in my main ID, most of the time i only use one ID at a time because my computer is an old fashion one. What else can i do? fighting with lvl 1 small energy gun? or my Level 3 firgate ?
Then that's what you're going to want to work on. Just like in real life, the playing field in EVE changes. Do what humans do best: adapt. |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.11.20 18:34:00 -
[46] - Quote
Leonardo Diom wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote: And in this six year , i have zero skill point on battle skills in my main ID, most of the time i only use one ID at a time because my computer is an old fashion one. What else can i do? fighting with lvl 1 small energy gun? or my Level 3 firgate ?
Then that's what you're going to want to work on. Just like in real life, the playing field in EVE changes. Do what humans do best: adapt.
yeah and more, promote and earn extra money in this change. |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
469
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:43:00 -
[47] - Quote
I've got a solution for your "problem" of "every good planet getting 99% tax to non-excellent players".
Interact with others who are playing the game.
Ground-breaking. Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |

Daniel Jackson
Liandri Corporation Liandri Covenant
16
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:43:00 -
[48] - Quote
Lugalbandak wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:No matter how times I read it, I am not sure what your OP is on about.
However Customs Code Expertise ONLY affects the NPC taxes placed on transactions at Player Owned Customs Offices. Not the Interbus Owned Customs Offices. And since HS POCOs will increase for a good while that skill does have a use ;) yeah yeah yeah it is. But you know people can simply set a 99% player rate for non-excellent people to make this skill " uesless" Well then pay 99% tax or look for a different POCO. Yes but no. If you thinking about how much you need to pay to change your PI base. And how much you can get from it. You will find out it is too much risk to put money in this area. Find out it is much more better to go to one wormhole or 0.0 sec to play PI. And then, you will give up high sec PI. well thats a good thing right? i mean more peeps out of high sec , esp the older guys wtf tey doing there in teh first place , let newbros have high sec hey i been playing for 10 years and i live in highsec, ya losing the pocos was saddening but like it was only a little side money not effecting me too much if any at all I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4610
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:49:00 -
[49] - Quote
Steve Ronuken wrote:Mythrandier wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Mythrandier wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Holy ****, humanity is domed. Yup, between GD and COAD here, FSTDT.com and Fox GÇ£newsGÇ¥ I can confirm that as a species, we are pretty much ******. Not sure about the others, but YOU definitely understood me. edit: da fuq is fstdt.com ... O_O Look it up if you want whatGÇÖs left of your faith in humanity destroyed. It is AMAZING that so much ignorance still exists in the digital age... If you haven't already, have a read of Brave New World. Might take the shine off that amazement. I have. I also have read brave new world, which we live to a huge extent anyway already.
Anyhow ... faith in humanity lost.
You're all going to die. (early) |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
590
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:02:00 -
[50] - Quote
Nicholas Sirens wrote:Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Six years and you're worried about a skill to reduce the npc tax on hi sec pocos? ...or that CONCORD doesn't protect COs anymore?....or you're worried there are more things being changed in EVE to support groups of players rather than entitled imbeciles who like to go brain dead doing mostly solo afk activities? And in this six year , What else can i do?
Cry on the forums then go back to wacking off to youporn while afk mining I guess?
|

Eru GoEller
State War Academy Caldari State
87
|
Posted - 2013.11.20 21:48:00 -
[51] - Quote
Janna Sway wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Our high sec is dying. Maybe , in next update, NPC station will be the next victim of CCP's strategies. Evil CCP! We need a messiah in New Eden. Step up, Nicholas. Save the universe... May i suggest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgdBDxIAAgY to be hired, although his name is Bob. But he is cooler then Nicholas, he can possess us all |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1061
|
Posted - 2013.11.20 21:57:00 -
[52] - Quote
Sorry I may have misread
Didnt this start off as
"CCP, why you not think ahead when this skill become obsolete"
Answer was
"Skill not obsolete, skill have current function"
To which OP replied
"Ah so High Sec is dying"
What did I miss? High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1061
|
Posted - 2013.11.20 21:58:00 -
[53] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:
You're all going to die. (early)
Even me? High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |

Leonardo Diom
UR Romex Outback Dustm3n
15
|
Posted - 2013.11.20 21:58:00 -
[54] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Sorry I may have misread
Didnt this start off as
"CCP, why you not think ahead when this skill become obsolete"
Answer was
"Skill not obsolete, skill have current function"
To which OP replied
"Ah so High Sec is dying"
What did I miss?
I think you missed the moment OP became confused. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
19
|
Posted - 2013.11.20 22:04:00 -
[55] - Quote
Leonardo Diom wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:
Sorry I may have misread
Didnt this start off as
"CCP, why you not think ahead when this skill become obsolete"
Answer was
"Skill not obsolete, skill have current function"
To which OP replied
"Ah so High Sec is dying"
What did I miss?
I think you missed the moment OP became confused.
... and no-one corrected him ... they all just went off topic :D
To clarify:
Customs Code Expertise has NO EFFECT on any of the NPC custom houses whether in high or low. It does not change the interbus tax at all.
What Custom Code Expertise actually DOES do is reduce the empire tax component of the player owned custom houses in highsec (there is no empire tax component in losec).
So ........... Lowsec Interbus Custom House - no effect Highsec Interbus Custom House - no effect Lowsec POCO - no effect Highsec POCO - reduces Empire tax component
Clear ???
|

Toshiro Ozuwara
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
293
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:06:00 -
[56] - Quote
Nicholas Sirens wrote:Our high sec is dying. Maybe , in next update, NPC station will be the next victim of CCP's strategies. We can only hope friend, we can only hope. We teach ruthlessness and hazing. No blues. Kill everything.
In-game channel - Join Sniggwaffe |

Leonardo Diom
UR Romex Outback Dustm3n
15
|
Posted - 2013.11.20 22:06:00 -
[57] - Quote
Hasikan Miallok wrote:Leonardo Diom wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:
Sorry I may have misread
Didnt this start off as
"CCP, why you not think ahead when this skill become obsolete"
Answer was
"Skill not obsolete, skill have current function"
To which OP replied
"Ah so High Sec is dying"
What did I miss?
I think you missed the moment OP became confused. ... and no-one corrected him ... they all just went off topic :D To clarify: Customs Code Expertise has NO EFFECT on any of the NPC custom houses whether in high or low. It does not change the interbus tax at all. What Custom Code Expertise actually DOES do is reduce the empire tax component of the player owned custom houses in highsec (there is no empire tax component in losec). So ........... Lowsec Interbus Custom House - no effect Highsec Interbus Custom House - no effect Lowsec POCO - no effect Highsec POCO - reduces Empire tax component Clear ???
But high sec is dead!
|

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1061
|
Posted - 2013.11.20 22:08:00 -
[58] - Quote
Hasikan Miallok wrote: Clear ???
Yup, was clear to me when I read the skill
POCOS put me in Torpor though
Or as they say in Vampire: The Masquerade; "Into Reinforced"
Wait..... High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.11.20 22:25:00 -
[59] - Quote
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Six years and you're worried about a skill to reduce the npc tax on hi sec pocos? ...or that CONCORD doesn't protect COs anymore?....or you're worried there are more things being changed in EVE to support groups of players rather than entitled imbeciles who like to go brain dead doing mostly solo afk activities? And in this six year , What else can i do? Cry on the forums then go back to wacking off to youporn while afk mining I guess?
sorry, i don't do those low level worker's job who can only earn their ISK by paying endless physical labour like mining or farming. I am honest merchant. earn money in market. by calculating.
In addition, you know **** things is bad for your health so i recommend you to release your sexual desire on your girlfriend. Otherwise you need medicine treatment or sterilization operation. Trust me, you will luckily survive. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1061
|
Posted - 2013.11.20 22:27:00 -
[60] - Quote
Nicholas Sirens wrote:
sorry, i don't do those low level worker's job who can only earn their ISK by paying endless physical labour like mining or farming. I am honest merchant. earn money in market. by calculating..
And yet reading is has am being difficult for thee?
Less maths
More Creme Anglais, pour favour bitte High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.11.20 22:32:00 -
[61] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:
sorry, i don't do those low level worker's job who can only earn their ISK by paying endless physical labour like mining or farming. I am honest merchant. earn money in market. by calculating..
And yet reading is has am being difficult for thee? Less maths More Creme Anglais, pour favour bitte
some people play this game by farming NPC ships. some farming player ships. For me i enjoy to watch them farming, get their money and ask them to farm more. |

Leonardo Diom
UR Romex Outback Dustm3n
15
|
Posted - 2013.11.20 22:52:00 -
[62] - Quote
This thread has basically concluded. What remain are personal attacks. |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.11.20 22:58:00 -
[63] - Quote
Leonardo Diom wrote:This thread has basically concluded. What remain are personal attacks.
yeah and its funny to study about how people think behind what they said. |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
590
|
Posted - 2013.11.21 00:56:00 -
[64] - Quote
Nicholas Sirens wrote:Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Six years and you're worried about a skill to reduce the npc tax on hi sec pocos? ...or that CONCORD doesn't protect COs anymore?....or you're worried there are more things being changed in EVE to support groups of players rather than entitled imbeciles who like to go brain dead doing mostly solo afk activities? And in this six year , What else can i do? Cry on the forums then go back to wacking off to youporn while afk mining I guess? sorry, i don't do those low level worker's job who can only earn their ISK by paying endless physical labour like mining or farming. I am honest merchant. earn money in market. by calculating. In addition, you know **** things is bad for your health so i recommend you to release your sexual desire on your girlfriend. Otherwise you need medicine treatment or sterilization operation. Trust me, you will luckily survive.
I read this about 10 times now and still have no idea what it says. I've never read anything so concise in it's insanity.
Quote: some people play this game by farming NPC ships. some farming player ships. For me i enjoy to watch them farming, get their money and ask them to farm more.
Did you enjoy watching them claim all the COs while you did calculations on how much you're going to lose? But I guess you did find a way to tell yourself you're winning at something...just .01isk market orders, never undock and make believe you're significant. (You're not) |

Janna Sway
GeoCorp. Curatores Veritatis Alliance
78
|
Posted - 2013.11.21 06:11:00 -
[65] - Quote
Nicholas Sirens wrote:Leonardo Diom wrote:This thread has basically concluded. What remain are personal attacks. yeah and its funny to study about how people think behind what they said.
You are basically concerned about self-justifications and self-gradifications in your comments, rite?
Sorry, but what is your point with the thread? What question do you really have and what do you want? |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.11.21 09:03:00 -
[66] - Quote
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Did you enjoy watching them claim all the COs while you did calculations on how much you're going to lose? But I guess you did find a way to tell yourself you're winning at something...just .01isk market orders, never undock and make believe you're significant. (You're not)
Market is not only about changing 0.1 isk orders, there are more. |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.11.21 09:17:00 -
[67] - Quote
Janna Sway wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Leonardo Diom wrote:This thread has basically concluded. What remain are personal attacks. yeah and its funny to study about how people think behind what they said. 1.You are basically concerned about self-justifications and self-gradifications in your comments. 2.You seem to believe that you are the only clever guy, surrounded by only underqualified idiots who always do "funny" and stupid things and you spend all your time station-trading and exploiting the foolishness of others? That's what I could get out of your posts. 3.What is your point with the thread? What question do you really have and what do you want? 4.Close thread maybe?
Answers: 1. I know there are plenty of more clever guys in this universe and i am not the cleverest . If you say i am clever, i can only thank you.
2. Actually i am doing psychology and sociology research here in the Forums. I know it sounds like delusion. But the research is about how people think and want when there are no governmental restraint.
3. And trust me, I never think others are foolish, with my true heart. Everyone have a position in this universe. If i think others are foolish, why they can't the same thing on myself?
4. I really enjoy this thread till now, Why close it ?
And if you think i have said something harm to you , i make apologize. |

Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
221
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Posted - 2013.11.21 09:49:00 -
[68] - Quote
Well we have skills to lower broker fees in market order, so why not customs code skill? after all you can even in real world some some hard earned cash by proper selection of customs byrocracy... We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do... |

Janna Sway
GeoCorp. Curatores Veritatis Alliance
79
|
Posted - 2013.11.21 10:37:00 -
[69] - Quote
Nicholas Sirens wrote:Janna Sway wrote:Nicholas Sirens wrote:Leonardo Diom wrote:This thread has basically concluded. What remain are personal attacks. yeah and its funny to study about how people think behind what they said. 1.You are basically concerned about self-justifications and self-gradifications in your comments. 2.You seem to believe that you are the only clever guy, surrounded by only underqualified idiots who always do "funny" and stupid things and you spend all your time station-trading and exploiting the foolishness of others? That's what I could get out of your posts. 3.What is your point with the thread? What question do you really have and what do you want? 4.Close thread maybe? Answers: 1. I know there are plenty of more clever guys in this universe and i am not the cleverest . If you say i am clever, i can only thank you. 2. Actually i am doing psychology and sociology research here in the Forums. I know it sounds like delusion. But the research is about how people think and want when there are no governmental restraint. 3. And trust me, I never think others are foolish, with my true heart. Everyone have a position in this universe. If i think others are foolish, why they can't the same thing on myself? 4. I really enjoy this thread till now, Why close it ? And if you think i have said something harm to you , i make apologize.
you are crazy. |

Nicholas Sirens
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.11.21 10:41:00 -
[70] - Quote
Janna Sway wrote:
you are crazy.
So you start to enjoy it too right? lol
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