Even better idea: mining lasers used against ships cause damage bypassing the shields, and give minerals (mainly tritanium) based on hull size. Just like in Homeworld.

Quoting a stealth "nerf minmatar"-post

I really think the most elegant solution is having strip miners cause overheat damage based on their yield. So the ability to cause heat damage is inversely proportional to the amount of tank.

I really think the most elegant solution is having strip miners cause overheat damage based on their yield. So the ability to cause heat damage is inversely proportional to the amount of tank.

No, I mean directly attacking the modules themselves, causing overheat damage.

The actual effect should be very limited, so as to the cost of the hulls makes using it offensively prohibitively expensive, but a mining fleet would have the capability to fire upon its attackers.

Note too that Crimewatch is configured such that the attackers would get at least one free shot,.

No, I mean directly attacking the modules themselves, causing overheat damage.

The actual effect should be very limited, so as to the cost of the hulls makes using it offensively prohibitively expensive, but a mining fleet would have the capability to fire upon its attackers.

Note too that Crimewatch is configured such that the attackers would get at least one free shot,.

OP: It would be incredibly difficult to make this AoE gas cloud useful without being overpowered. Meaning it would either cover a small area that's easy to avoid or it would cover a large area, making it so powerful people would start using it in PvP, making this more than just a defense.

mining lasers causing heat damage to modules: NO
This would become a big hit in PvP. Every fleet would have a couple of mining vessels just so they could burn other people's modules. Anything causing heat damage to other people's mods is a horrible idea.

Dont be in the pitful range for 3 minutes?

That's where balancing comes in. I recommended it be based on yield amounts so procurer's would have the least effect. With a decent procurer fit being on the order of 20 million ISK and giving you no more tank than a cruiser, while having the sig radius and speed of a battleship, they are easy to counter. Just blap the hell out of them. Sure, they'll nuke a couple things in the process but if it's balanced right the procurer's would cost more than anything they could actually hit.

It's all about balance. I'm not recommended that miners get the uber kill switch, just the ability to be really annoying.

Allow mining barges to activate a super drive, stopping them from warping. Allowing them to slice through other ships, cutting them in half and using the tractor beam to flail the wreck into other enemy ships. Throwing it into their hulls as they explode in fire. Crew members can be seen flailing out of the wreck into empty space, as the fire engulfing their bodies is vacuumed into space.

The mining marge the fills a jet can with volatile minerals, over heating the jet can to make a fire cocktail of death. Ventures Harvesting gas only to scorch dust bunnies on the surface with its new orbital flame thrower. All industrial ships can then work together to make "Mega-Hulk" a supreme being of death and decay. Mega-Hulk uses the Orca command ship as its body, a skiff as its heads (3 heads). Mackinaws as its arms and hulks as its legs. Ventures fill the place of its toes and fingers.

It can then grab nearby planets and slam them into stations, pos's and POCO's. When the planet explodes random jet cans of PI goods comes out and refines itself into all possible final solutions. The skiff can overload itself allowing it to use its colossal eyebeam to incinerate all life in the universe.

Yeah I agree with this idea. It seems super dooper cool.

Cost is meaningless.

Bring fifty of these in support of an AHAC fleet, burn out every module on every ship in every fleet you face.

Bring two hundred of them to help with supers, no need to worry about tank!

Hell, bring that two hundred along to any fight and whoever you're facing is dead if they get anywhere near you. You'd reduce fleets to snipe-warp-snipe, or drone assist. Everythign else would just get all it's modules burned away with literally no way to prevent this.


And nobody has explained why it is a good idea to be able to burn off someone else's modules and have them be completely unable to defend themselves.

Allow mining barges to activate a super drive, stopping them from warping. Allowing them to slice through other ships, cutting them in half and using the tractor beam to flail the wreck into other enemy ships. Throwing it into their hulls as they explode in fire. Crew members can be seen flailing out of the wreck into empty space, as the fire engulfing their bodies is vacuumed into space.

The mining marge the fills a jet can with volatile minerals, over heating the jet can to make a fire cocktail of death. Ventures Harvesting gas only to scorch dust bunnies on the surface with its new orbital flame thrower. All industrial ships can then work together to make "Mega-Hulk" a supreme being of death and decay. Mega-Hulk uses the Orca command ship as its body, a skiff as its heads (3 heads). Mackinaws as its arms and hulks as its legs. Ventures fill the place of its toes and fingers.

It can then grab nearby planets and slam them into stations, pos's and POCO's. When the planet explodes random jet cans of PI goods comes out and refines itself into all possible final solutions. The skiff can overload itself allowing it to use its colossal eyebeam to incinerate all life in the universe.

Yeah I agree with this idea. It seems super dooper cool.