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Zah Damaja
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Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:34:00 -
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For some reason there seems to be a huge push from experienced Gallente pilots to try and discredit our (TEST AND CalMil included) accomplishments in Faction Warfare. You are crawling over each other to accuse us of either trying to scam CalMil members with our programs or constantly tell us the goals we've set and reached are not goals at all and are the result of some mystical pendulum.
We set out to reach T4 in FW, we have done that.
We set out to control a majority of the warzone, we have done that.
We are offering an LP to ISK cash out service to help line members make ISK without crashing the market
We are offering an ISK for AWOX program to Gallente pilots which is paying out
We are not lying to anyone. Our programs are not scams. They are created with newbros and line members in mind. Everything we have said we have accomplished has been accomplished. Every public program we put in place is very real. Yet GalMil spends their time accusing us of trying to cheat people or diminishing our accomplishments, pushing the goalposts. The only thing you have to show for your efforts are some ~kbstats~.
The problem with GalMil has become clear, you have lost sight of what a big part of FW should be and that is a training ground for newbro's. None of you GalMil 'big dogs' are concerned about warzone control because you've been doing this so long you have alts cashing out in CalMil space and have been sitting on piles of ISK so all you need to do is sit back in your sniping ships and camp gates. No newbro is learning anything from that and certainly not making the ISK they SHOULD be. YOU may not care about FW control but I would bet the poor GalMil line members do. The newbros who were hoping to make some isk and learn to PVP are suffering. I can't count the amount of times I've been told by the GalMil leadership that they don't care about warzone control. You wear your disregard for new Gallente militia members like a badge of honor, it's a shame.
GalMil newbro's, if you're reading this please believe our programs are real. These are not lies. These are not tricks. These are not scams. You will get quality ISK for your efforts. You will cut your teeth in PVP against the GalMil elitists. You will not be forgotten with us like the GalMil 'elite' have forgotten about you.
Zah Damaja
Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter
GÇ£A leader leads by example, not by forceGÇ¥-á-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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Naliao Vee
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:37:00 -
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> We set out to control a majority of the warzone, we have done that.
YES, AND IT WAS SO FUN. freakin love ihub bashing |
Naliao Vee
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:42:00 -
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all of the above is true, we are taking your space, and its fun |
Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:23:00 -
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Yes, the vast Gallente propaganda conspiricy is clearly demonstrated by the numerous forum topics GalMil pilots have started about TEST. |
Zah Damaja
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Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:28:00 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:Yes, the vast Gallente propaganda conspiricy is clearly demonstrated by the numerous forum topics GalMil pilots have started about TEST.
Our topics are merely offering our services or celebrating reaching a goal. Experienced Gallente pilots have replied to each and every one to try and discredit them much like you are now. Your reply is further proving my point.
Don't be fooled Gallente newbro's, when the Gallente leadership and old guard say they don't care about warzone control, they MEAN it. You suffer, they do not.
Zah Damaja
Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter
GÇ£A leader leads by example, not by forceGÇ¥-á-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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Unreal Blight
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.20 20:41:00 -
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I WENT ON A TEST FLEET AND THEY GAVE ME FREE SHIPS AND ASKED NOTHING IN RETURN, CLEARLY THIS IS A SCAM AND EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT. |
Te Tumatauenga
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.20 20:53:00 -
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I was really shocked when we joined FW. The stakes are lower and the fleets smaller, large scale battles are dozens rather than hundreds of people, players can join in fast and fun PvP without huge amounts of skillpoints, and you don't need nearly the same level of organisation as nullsec alliances. Naturally I thought this would mean that there would be less anger, less xboxlivesque smacktalk in jabber, and a bigger focus on enjoying the game and helping new players find their feet.
How wrong was I.
I have heard more rage, more weak pride-saving justifications, more dickwaving and elitism here than I ever did in nullsec. It's no exaggeration to say that I've heard more excuses for Galmil dropping to tier one than all of TEST made when it permanently lost several regions, one of which we'd held for years.
Galmil, I'm afraid you're letting your rage blind you. TEST can teach you many things if only you'd listen. We remember it is only a game, we put a higher premium on how cool people are to chill with than their KB stats, and we foster an environment where new players are welcomed and encouraged to go welp dozens of free ships so they might learn and have fun instead of being ridiculed for their KBstats.
The best thing you can do Galmil is get over yourselves and learn from our vastly superior culture. |
Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:14:00 -
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Aha. Consider this shark jumped folks. TEST of all people unable to grasp how losing territory might not be a big deal to everyone. |
Zah Damaja
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:20:00 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:Aha. Consider this shark jumped folks. TEST of all people unable to grasp how losing territory might not be a big deal to everyone.
More attempts to discredit our attempts to provide a fun, ISK filled experience for new and old players alike - color me shocked.
I'm sure a selfish GalMil such as yourself who cares not for the needs of your newbro's wouldn't understand.
Zah Damaja
Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter
GÇ£A leader leads by example, not by forceGÇ¥-á-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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Zah Damaja
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:25:00 -
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I hope you newbro's out there thinking about joining Gallente FW have an EXCELLENT kill to death ratio because apparently that's all that matters to them and you be ridiculed endlessly if that is not the case.
Zah Damaja
Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter
GÇ£A leader leads by example, not by forceGÇ¥-á-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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Dread Operative
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:34:00 -
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Zah Damaja wrote:The problem with GalMil has become clear, you have lost sight of what a big part of FW should be and that is a training ground for newbro's.
Confirming FW is training area and not about instant PVP, free wardec. and being payed for PVPing. 
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Faife
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:38:00 -
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Dread Operative wrote:being payed(sic) for PVPing.
We get paid 4 times as much as you because we're good at it and you're bad at it. |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:26:00 -
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Faife wrote:Dread Operative wrote:being payed(sic) for PVPing. We get paid 4 times as much as you because we're good at it and you're bad at it.
When taken into the context of flying mostly frigs and dessies, please answer what the difference between infinity * 4 and infinity is? The answer will give you insight into why we are the way we are.
QCATS is recruiting: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
Samurai Pizza Cats
733
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:41:00 -
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Dread Operative wrote:Zah Damaja wrote:The problem with GalMil has become clear, you have lost sight of what a big part of FW should be and that is a training ground for newbro's. Confirming FW is training area and not about instant PVP, free wardec. and being payed for PVPing.
If i were a washed up nullbro alliance where 95% of active players up and left a few months before, i too would be very interested in newbros.
Fact is most FW corps on all sides of the fence have higher recruitment requirements than test. |
Mabego Tetrimon
Spiritus Draconis
Sicarius Draconis
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:47:00 -
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-confirmed-
i love TEST too
!!! |
Naliao Vee
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:22:00 -
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if we suck so bad, why are we t4 while you sit in t1, why have we taken wazrone control? |
Te Tumatauenga
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:27:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Dread Operative wrote:Zah Damaja wrote:The problem with GalMil has become clear, you have lost sight of what a big part of FW should be and that is a training ground for newbro's. Confirming FW is training area and not about instant PVP, free wardec. and being payed for PVPing. If i were a washed up nullbro alliance where 95% of active players up and left a few months before, i too would be very interested in newbros. Fact is most FW corps on all sides of the fence have higher recruitment requirements than test.
Test has always been about newbros: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96b7Jk5xCTQ
I don't doubt you have "higher" (read: SP and kbstats) requirements. That's exactly what we've been saying: you're elitist. Remember: it's just a game! |
Zah Damaja
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:29:00 -
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You keep your elitist attitudes, we'll take the newbros. You all may have forgotten where you started but we haven't.
Remember everybody, Caldari Militia is offering T4 payouts!
Zah Damaja
Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter
GÇ£A leader leads by example, not by forceGÇ¥-á-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:51:00 -
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Naliao Vee wrote:if we suck so bad, why are we t4 while you sit in t1, why have we taken wazrone control?
Your own PR guys claimed that Cal Mil were a broken faction before TEST got here. That same broken caldari faction claimed the same warzome control a few months before TEST even joined FW.
Im not here to explain the pendulum, im just here to exploit it. |
Castnicke Rinah
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:00:00 -
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I think this is a great idea. Let's pile more idiots* into TEST so that when they leave/die we get rid of all of them.
*Disclaimer: I don't mean newbros are idiots, but anyone who falls for this kind of stuff surely is. |
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Zah Damaja
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:51:00 -
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Pendulum, kbstats, pendulum, kbstats. The real reason for my post is I actually want to know, do any Gallente have anything to say about analogies involving weights suspended from a pivot or perhaps have some metrics that express the amount of ship explosions you've caused or been a victim of? I am curious about what you have to say about these two subjects. Please. Tell me.
Anyway.. I'm not going to call you 'idiots' like some of you have taken to doing to us. For one, because I don't believe it's true and two, calling you names won't help get my point across any clearer.
My point is twofold. One, of your own admission you have 'higher standards' and are not accepting of newbros. That's fine. We have always been a newbro friendly alliance. This is something that separates us and that's OK. Two, our advertising of our services and programs as well as our celebrating of accomplishments through topics posted here are not to discredit you. That's just not what we're about. Obviously you are free to come into these discussions and accuse us of being liars and attempt to discredit us if you want, but it's just not true. Our programs and accomplishments we have discussed (we have always been an alliance very fond of discussion) here are very real. And frankly if I see one more reply involving pendulums I might actually throw up.
Zah Damaja
Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter
GÇ£A leader leads by example, not by forceGÇ¥-á-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:22:00 -
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Zah Damaja wrote:Pendulum, kbstats, pendulum, kbstats. The real reason for my post is I actually want to know, do any Gallente have anything to say about analogies involving weights suspended from a pivot or perhaps have some metrics that express the amount of ship explosions you've caused or been a victim of? I am curious about what you have to say about these two subjects. Please. Tell me.
Anyway.. I'm not going to call you 'idiots' like some of you have taken to doing to us. For one, because I don't believe it's true and two, calling you names won't help get my point across any clearer.
My point is twofold. One, of your own admission you have 'higher standards' and are not accepting of newbros. That's fine. We have always been a newbro friendly alliance. This is something that separates us and that's OK. Two, our advertising of our services and programs as well as our celebrating of accomplishments through topics posted here are not to discredit you. That's just not what we're about. Obviously you are free to come into these discussions and accuse us of being liars and attempt to discredit us if you want, but it's just not true. Our programs and accomplishments we have discussed (we have always been an alliance very fond of discussion) here are very real. And frankly if I see one more reply involving pendulums I might actually throw up.
Look "Bro:" what did you expect when you joined the FW / started posting these Warfare & Tactics threads? That everyone here would be serving up tea and dumplings? That we would just fall all over ourselves to lavish praise upon every Special TEST Snowflake?
All this whinging about GalMil supposed "rage" and "accusations" is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as the idea that you are special for being at Tier 4. Most ridiculous is the idea that GalMil falling to Tier 1 is some kind of harrowing blow to our morale when we've been through this more times than any of us can keep track of.
The truth is GalMil are having fun, just like you TESTies seem to be. I don't know why you guys keep trying to convince us that this delicious feast of TEST killmails we are enjoying is somehow a turd taco. Clearly ya'll enjoy being at Tier 4, so good on you! Well done. Welcome to FacWar!
So somehow our lack of sufficient enthusiasm for, and general skepticism about the uniqueness of your accomplishments thus far makes us villains. How dare we not agree completely with your propaganda narrative or self assigned metrics for success?Well, by that measure... where do you get off denigrating our precious kbstats? Our hard spent hours getting drunk flying Cockbag Thrashers and tearing apart your plexing fleets with Derp Atrons mean nothing to you? How rude! |
Zah Damaja
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:40:00 -
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I'm not asking to be your friend, "bro." I'm just pointing out that you don't have to like what we say, but what we've been saying is the truth.
Zah Damaja
Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter
GÇ£A leader leads by example, not by forceGÇ¥-á-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:46:00 -
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To be ignored, or to be scammed. These are the immediate choices you present?
Its pretty clear how bad a choice TEST'ies really are. |
Zah Damaja
Dreddit
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:56:00 -
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The choices we present are ISK for AWOX for Gallente pilots, Tier 4 LP with an ISK for LP cashout program, warzone control and fun (non-elitist you-must-be-this-kbstats-to-fly) PVP.
Basically we're getting rich while having fun from the littlest newbro to the tippy top of the Caldari militia, unlike the Gallente where only the people at the top eat.
Zah Damaja
Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter
GÇ£A leader leads by example, not by forceGÇ¥-á-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:01:00 -
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Zah Damaja wrote:I'm not asking to be your friend, "bro." I'm just pointing out that you don't have to like what we say, but what we've been saying is the truth.
Young Jedi, you will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
If what you're upset about are folks calling your programs scams... why would you even care? This is EVE, of course we are going to say you're scamming. Someone has to. Its practically in the EULA. |
Zah Damaja
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:03:00 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:Zah Damaja wrote:I'm not asking to be your friend, "bro." I'm just pointing out that you don't have to like what we say, but what we've been saying is the truth. Young Jedi, you will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view. If what you're upset about are folks calling your programs scams... why would you even care? This is EVE, of course we are going to say you're scamming. Someone has to. Its practically in the EULA.
There is clearly no room for newbros in the Gallente militia so I want to inform those who might read this forum that CalMil is accepting.
Zah Damaja
Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter
GÇ£A leader leads by example, not by forceGÇ¥-á-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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Apollo Eros
Daktaklakpak.
Red Coat Conspiracy
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:04:00 -
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Wait i'm confused. You are assuming that GAL Mil people are already not in test?
If anything you are giving these "elitists" more targets. Which after flying with them for years is really all they want. You can literally change up any doctrine and Gal Mil will find a way to kill you. You see where Test may have a ministry of theory crafting everyone in gal mil is capable of doing it because they are elitist. I have been out of FW for a while but only thing that I see changing is the majority of **** posting in this subform is now done by Test vs those other squid scrubs. Oh that and the best gal mil alliance getting kills.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=8441
You know there is LP distributed when kills are had right? That is why your journal flashes when you kill someone...
Also I am sure your FW bros need a service like LP for isk because they are to ******** to calculate a simple thing like LP/Hour that mixed with I am sure the payouts are not great when sharing 50 people to a single site.
Anyways... Thanks for the kills....
[Daktak Recruiter] We want you harder. Join "We're Bad"-á
[LVL 5 Space Wizard] |
Zah Damaja
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:09:00 -
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Apollo Eros wrote:~kbstats~
kbstats once again rears its ugly head as the catch all reply.
Zah Damaja
Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter
GÇ£A leader leads by example, not by forceGÇ¥-á-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:15:00 -
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Zah Damaja wrote:I hope you newbro's out there thinking about joining Gallente FW have an EXCELLENT kill to death ratio because apparently that's all that matters to them and you will be ridiculed endlessly if that is not the case.
Hey, it's not my fault you're bad at pvp. |
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