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Fighter Maurset
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:04:00 -
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Now I do not want WoW pvp scenarios, where players have nothing to loose.
But would you do pvp (or more pvp) if the insurance was "better"...?
If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
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Paul Otichoda
Electric Sun Associates
67
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:13:00 -
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me? no not really because I'd still lose pretty much every time |
Samuel Moore Walton
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
25
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:17:00 -
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People don't PVP because it isn't harsh enough, 25% more harsh = 25% more PVP
If you want lots of PVP you need to add lots of Harsh. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
7453
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:24:00 -
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Coming from someone whos Catalysts don't get insurance payouts for some reason, I can tell you that insurance payouts have very little sway on the amount of 'PvP' im involved in.
I also haven't insured a ship in years, don't fly what you cannot afford to lose.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
3651
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:29:00 -
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There was a time when insurance was "better."
It was so good in fact that people actually built and self destructed their own ships for PROFIT!
Todays Tech 1 insurance values are just barely under what it would take to be profitable like before.
And Tech 2, Faction, Tech 3, and Pirate insurance values were never meant to be profitable (as an added "penalty" for using a ship that has extra "edges").
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Fighter Maurset
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:38:00 -
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Personally I dont insure my ships. Because the modules cost more than the hull...
If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
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Kristopher Rocancourt
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
208
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:43:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Coming from someone whos Catalysts don't get insurance payouts for some reason, I can tell you that insurance payouts have very little sway on the amount of 'PvP' im involved in.
I also haven't insured a ship in years, don't fly what you cannot afford to lose.
funny that i never get insurance payouts anymore but i die a LOT
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destiny2
Perkone
Caldari State
267
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Posted - 2013.11.20 20:00:00 -
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i still find it entertaining that platinum insurance pays out more on a super capital then it does on a titan, when a titan is alot more isk thne a supercapital  |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
1059
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Posted - 2013.11.20 20:10:00 -
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I dont understand
What's wrong with the way it works now?
If it was "better", then insurance would be over the value of the item and that durn don' make no sense ya'll
Insurance for Towers though, giz some of that.
High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
641
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Posted - 2013.11.20 20:43:00 -
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Nope. I would still spend as much time as I can in PvP, just as I do now. |
Fighter Maurset
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.11.20 20:54:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:
I dont understand
What's wrong with the way it works now?
If it was "better", then insurance would be over the value of the item and that durn don' make no sense ya'll
Insurance for Towers though, giz some of that.
How do you make that statement add up?
Take for example a Mining Barge - Retriever:
Ship costs 25mill on market. Maximum payout is 6.187.709.00 isk
And adding modules does not affect the platinum cost or payout...
Am I missing some info here?
If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
1059
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:10:00 -
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Fighter Maurset wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:
I dont understand
What's wrong with the way it works now?
If it was "better", then insurance would be over the value of the item and that durn don' make no sense ya'll
Insurance for Towers though, giz some of that.
How do you make that statement add up? Take for example a Mining Barge - Retriever: Ship costs 25mill on market. Maximum payout is 6.187.709.00 isk And adding modules does not affect the platinum cost or payout... Am I missing some info here?
Yes.
But Ill let you figure that out for yourself.
High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |
Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
2418
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:25:00 -
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Hell no.
Personally i think insurance should be removed from the game.
Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
132
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:27:00 -
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I haven't insured a ship in ages. Just doing my part to combat iskflation. |
Fighter Maurset
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:37:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:[quote=Fighter Maurset][quote=Ramona McCandless]
Yes.
But Ill let you figure that out for yourself.
Nah... I think you are bluffing :o)
If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
1060
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:42:00 -
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Fighter Maurset wrote:
Nah... I think you are bluffing :o)
I never bluff
High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
8668
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:59:00 -
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At current prices I will be shelling out 8 billion to get a mega working with assault frig fleets.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
157
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:26:00 -
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I find that when I'm deciding what to fly, I ignore the insurance payout when considering the cost of the ship. So it wouldn't affect me. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:33:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Coming from someone whos Catalysts don't get insurance payouts for some reason, I can tell you that insurance payouts have very little sway on the amount of 'PvP' im involved in.
I also haven't insured a ship in years, don't fly what you cannot afford to lose.
LOL ... yes we all know your insurance is void if you are suicide ganking :D There are other forms of PvP you know. |
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
780
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:36:00 -
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I always forget about insurance anyway, w-space will do that to you.
wumbo |
Garandras
Black Aces
Against ALL Authorities
57
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:20:00 -
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while a little bit more on T2 and faction would be nice
It wont make a differance to what I chosoe to fly |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
184
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:42:00 -
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I feel like it is a Jinx to buy insurance on my PvP pilot ...
.. go out expecting to die ?
not me!
...well I do die ...cause we're looking for a fight and ...well sometimes those good fights are too good to be true..
But still.. you have to believe you'll win them all !
(on a more rational note... there are so many different kinds of fleets and "docs" that there is a pretty good chance that some of the 3 month periods would go by and the insurance lapse . Depends on whether it is a ship you take out all the time.)
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Cpt Arareb
DisturbedGamers.
The Explicit Alliance
60
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:41:00 -
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I see insurance in a pvp ship as a sure investment, that ship in pvp have 99% chance of being blown up and you have 100% chance that if it does, ur investment will pay back extra isk, good deal, I pvp with something I can afford to lose, and win a little isk in end, is a win win situation |
Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
1963
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:44:00 -
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Fighter Maurset wrote:Now I do not want WoW pvp scenarios, where players have nothing to loose.
But would you do pvp (or more pvp) if the insurance was "better"...?
Insurance is already fine. I think you get something like 3x T1 ships for the price of 2 with insurance, I can't remember exactly.
Oh god. |
GreenSeed
744
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:38:00 -
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people that need an incentive that would make it easier to recoup losses, to aid them to do something that only makes sense if those loses can be inflicted on others, or would carry the risk of suffering them themselves, need to go back to wow.
this is eve and things have a price tag on them, that price is time, insurance is already a gross intervention on the Sandbox, if anything it should be removed completely. |
Old Phill
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:57:00 -
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i feel the biggest issue isnt the ships but pods alot of people love their +5s and +4s so dont seem to risk it as you cant get pod insurance
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Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp.
Northern Associates.
259
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Posted - 2013.11.21 08:22:00 -
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tey can rid of insurance for my part , most of the time i forget it anyway en tech2 ships suck at it also
The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Solstice Project
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
4619
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Posted - 2013.11.21 11:16:00 -
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Most people who don't fight don't do it,
because losing hurts their self-worth.
Money isn't the issue. A sad lifs is. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
SniggWaffe
WAFFLES.
293
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Posted - 2013.11.21 11:22:00 -
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Fighter Maurset wrote:Now I do not want WoW pvp scenarios, where players have nothing to loose.
But would you do pvp (or more pvp) if the insurance was "better"...?
If the cost of your ship is holding you back from PvP, you're basically an irredeemable publord like most of the members in CFC alliances.
We teach ruthlessness and hazing. No blues. Kill everything.
In-game channel - Join Sniggwaffe |
Fighter Maurset
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:17:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Fighter Maurset wrote:Now I do not want WoW pvp scenarios, where players have nothing to loose.
But would you do pvp (or more pvp) if the insurance was "better"...? If the cost of your ship is holding you back from PvP, you're basically an irredeemable publord like most of the members in CFC alliances.
Well everything (?) has a solution in EvE. I assume one can do like the pirates, and pick the fights one can win.
Start the career by killing criminal tagged pods in hisec...
If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
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GreenSeed
744
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:25:00 -
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why would you kill crimal pods? they have no implants... the other ones are full of joy and candy. |
Fighter Maurset
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:37:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:why would you kill crimal pods? they have no implants... the other ones are full of joy and candy.
Cause they cant fight back *evil lol*
If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
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