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Ana Vyr
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Posted - 2011.11.04 19:36:00 -
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I've shown EvE to quite a few of my gamer buddies who play MMO's. I've picked up friends from many fairly hardcore PvP MMO's too, like Ultima and WWII Online...and no takers yet.
The avatar issue was not a failing any of them pointed out.
Two guys thought the ship control system was crap and expected a more wing commander type of thing...these guys are flight sim guys so they found EvE's indirect control scheme untasteful.
One guy considered it for a few weeks, but ultimately turned it down because he found that the game lacked roleplaying options.
A couple of guys didn't care for the way PvP lacked twitch and felt that hand eye coordination played no role.
The fantasy crowd guys hated the game...too many little windows all full of numbers, very slow pace of travelling, activities like mining were too boring etc etc.
Shrug...I think it's a fantastic game, personally. |

David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
180
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Posted - 2011.11.04 19:44:00 -
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lol i guess it might make sense if ya drink enough of that beer Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless your from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs. |

Neve Talie-Ko
University of Caille Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2011.11.04 19:48:00 -
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My beer of choice was always McEwan's Scotch Ale. When Heineken bought them they quit exporting it to the US. I really need a supplier badly. I have a million ISK... |

Arianna Comnenus
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.11.04 19:54:00 -
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Arrogant Bastard definitely is some good brew for hop lovers. I'm fond of Stone IPA (including Ruination) as well.
And of course people who prefer Belgian ales aren't going to like it. When you're used to an area of 30 IBU's, going above 100 is going to taste like crap. |

Lord Ryan
True Xero
76
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Posted - 2011.11.04 19:55:00 -
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Ana Vyr wrote:I've shown EvE to quite a few of my gamer buddies who play MMO's. I've picked up friends from many fairly hardcore PvP MMO's too, like Ultima and WWII Online...and no takers yet.
The avatar issue was not a failing any of them pointed out.
Two guys thought the ship control system was crap and expected a more wing commander type of thing...these guys are flight sim guys so they found EvE's indirect control scheme untasteful.
One guy considered it for a few weeks, but ultimately turned it down because he found that the game lacked roleplaying options.
A couple of guys didn't care for the way PvP lacked twitch and felt that hand eye coordination played no role.
The fantasy crowd guys hated the game...too many little windows all full of numbers, very slow pace of travelling, activities like mining were too boring etc etc.
Shrug...I think it's a fantastic game, personally.
I love Eve, but have the same issues with getting friends to play. Biggest one I hear is it's boring. One guy said I'd rather play WOW it's all action, he also complained about the controls. Most people I know seem to be into those Medal of Honor type games. The hand/eye thing was a bit of an issue for me when I started too. I'm used to being faster of hand and mind than....well everyone else. Eve was the first game I ever played that I wasn't instant win. Which is probably the reason I kept playing. Eventually I quit caring about winning and just enjoyed the game(flying spaceships). To be honest spaceships are the main draw for me, what other spaceship game is out there? I believe unless you have a fetish for spaceships you will probably just move on to something more exciting.
-á"Nerf it cause I can't fly it". I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |

Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
149
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Posted - 2011.11.04 20:01:00 -
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Kahz Niverrah wrote:Trainwreck McGee wrote:You are all pussies
Warm smoked oatmeal stout or gtfo I'll be the first to admit I'm not man enough for smoked beer. Tried it on many occasions, just couldn't develop a taste for it.
I perfer smoking smoke-like things to drinking things that are smoked
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722
My stance on WiS |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
197
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Posted - 2011.11.04 20:10:00 -
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Kahz Niverrah wrote:Trainwreck McGee wrote:You are all pussies
Warm smoked oatmeal stout or gtfo I'll be the first to admit I'm not man enough for smoked beer. Tried it on many occasions, just couldn't develop a taste for it.
I can never keep them lit.  To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |

Cipher Jones
104
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Posted - 2011.11.04 21:08:00 -
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Kahz Niverrah wrote:Tear Miner wrote:The jig is up! You do realize that beer is pretty much just an ad campaign for a-hole beer snobs, right? Honestly it takes like garbage, I'll take a beer in Belgium over that junk any day.
You sir, have been had. To be honest, I've never seen an ad for arrogant bastard in my life. There are some fantastic beers that come out of Belgium, and there are some terrible ones. Region is probably the worst metric you could use to determine a beer's quality. Taste, obviously, is the best, and taste is subjective.
That's why so many people eat ****, because taste is soooooooooooooooo subjective.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |

Chi Ftele
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.04 21:35:00 -
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hmm I see your point
it's a pretty creative advertising theme, too bad a lot of people already are "barefoot and stupid", with no help from companies who make plebeian ale That is all. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
61
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Posted - 2011.11.04 21:40:00 -
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If i had to become rich, i would find anything edible or drinkable and would aim it for oral fixed people. Like a 20 $ water.
"Have this, put it in your mouth, you are putttng in your mouth the best stuff anyone can put in her mouth" -it's a winner trick that never gets old.
So silly. You're gonna pee it in 3 to 6 hours, really is that important how it tastes...? So... no affordable NEx store... no full-fledged Incarna... no casual content... no solo content... no PvE content...-á
Why should I keep paying to play this game? |

Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
26
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Posted - 2011.11.04 21:51:00 -
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Kahz Niverrah wrote:Tear Miner wrote:The jig is up! You do realize that beer is pretty much just an ad campaign for a-hole beer snobs, right? Honestly it takes like garbage, I'll take a beer in Belgium over that junk any day.
You sir, have been had. To be honest, I've never seen an ad for arrogant bastard in my life. There are some fantastic beers that come out of Belgium, and there are some terrible ones. Region is probably the worst metric you could use to determine a beer's quality. Taste, obviously, is the best, and taste is subjective.
Well, I hate to say so, but regarding the region thing... the Checks invented lager, and as a lager fan, I really feel that the Check lagers are the best lagers. As far as ale goes, I'm not the biggest fan, but I've found some in the UK that suit my taste. As for stout, not a big fan. Guiness can go to the abyss tbh, bacause there are far better stouts around.
Now most people whom I've introduced to Check lagers agree with me that these are indeed superior lagers. As for ales, most people I know who like ales say there are some good ones outside the UK, but most of hte good ones are found in the UK. Stout, well, not really sure, don't care, not a big fan.
Aside from that, yes, you are correct, taste is a matter of opinion, and highly subjective.
Opinions are like 455h0l35. Everybody's got one, and they all stink! Have you noticed how some ships are actually blue? Weird isn't it? |

Selinate
78
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Posted - 2011.11.04 21:54:00 -
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you pussies should try some bourbon. |

Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2011.11.06 05:18:00 -
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Selinate wrote:you pussies should try some bourbon.
Bourbon is way too sweet for me. I like my scotch for whiskies. |

Psychophantic
95
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Posted - 2011.11.06 06:59:00 -
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Beer makes Nascar go faster. |

Little Delicious
Imperium's Dark Legion
17
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Posted - 2011.11.06 11:13:00 -
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only pretentious little pricks drink arrogant bastard. please go die and quit thinking you're interesting. |

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
65
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Posted - 2011.11.06 11:52:00 -
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How come there is no "Beer" NPC trade good? :P
Come on CCP, get with it. |

Soporo
Perkone Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2011.11.06 14:37:00 -
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I like Yuengling, so there. *bows up and sticks out skinny chest*
Quote:Susan smiled at me, giving Molly the Female Once-Over--a process by which one woman creates a detailed profile of another woman based upon about a million subtle details of clothing, jewelry, makeup, and body type, and then decides how much of a social threat she might be.
Men have a parallel process, but it's binary: Does he have beer? If yes, will he share with me? Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H.L. Mencken |

Saint Lazarus
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
165
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Posted - 2011.11.06 15:06:00 -
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Whiskey or gtfo
Rum will do in a pinch, but anything under 20%? pfffffffft |

Selinate
99
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Posted - 2011.11.06 16:07:00 -
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Tear Miner wrote:Selinate wrote:you pussies should try some bourbon. Bourbon is way too sweet for me. I like my scotch for whiskies.
It may be sweeter but it burns much more all the way down!  |

Darrow Hill
Eight Bit Industries
7
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Posted - 2011.11.06 16:18:00 -
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In response to this thread, I purchased a sixer of Arrogant Bastard on Friday.
It's passable, but definitely not worth $14.99.
Honestly, I feel a bit stupid for paying that much for a six pack of beer no matter how good it is. |

Handsome Hussein
93
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Posted - 2011.11.06 17:00:00 -
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Fille Balle wrote:Well, I hate to say so, but regarding the region thing... the Checks invented lager, and as a lager fan, I really feel that the Check lagers are the best lagers. As far as ale goes, I'm not the biggest fan, but I've found some in the UK that suit my taste. As for stout, not a big fan. Guiness can go to the abyss tbh, bacause there are far better stouts around.
Now most people whom I've introduced to Check lagers agree with me that these are indeed superior lagers. As for ales, most people I know who like ales say there are some good ones outside the UK, but most of hte good ones are found in the UK. Stout, well, not really sure, don't care, not a big fan.
Aside from that, yes, you are correct, taste is a matter of opinion, and highly subjective.
Opinions are like 455h0l35. Everybody's got one, and they all stink! As a fan of Czech lagers, you should really learn how to spell Czech. Otherwise you just look like an 455h013.
Oh, and Rebel is the best beer evar. Leaves only the fresh scent of pine. |

Drokar Gazer
DISORDERLY CONDUCT.
0
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Posted - 2011.11.06 17:15:00 -
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Kahz Niverrah wrote:There's a line of beer from Stone Brewing called Arrogant Bastard. It's a phenomenal beer, but it has a very strong flavor that some people can't handle. The bottle reads: Quote:This is an aggressive ale. You probably wonGÇÖt like it. It is quite doubtful that you have the taste or sophistication to be able to appreciate an ale of this quality and depth. We would suggest that you stick to safer and more familiar territoryGÇômaybe something with a multi-million dollar ad campaign aimed at convincing you itGÇÖs made in a little brewery, or one that implies that their tasteless fizzy yellow beverage will give you more sex appeal. Perhaps you think multi-million dollar ad campaigns make things taste better. Perhaps youGÇÖre mouthing your words as you read this. While enjoying said beverage recently, it occurred to me that EVE is a lot like this beer. EVE forgoes traditional MMO concepts and instead strives to be something greater, even if that means alienating some of their potential customers. And for that, CCP, I salute you. Please never change. That is all.
I live right next to Stone Brewing. AB is a good beer on draft. Don't care for it in the bottle, not sure why. My favorite beers are stouts though. I live in San Diego which is the mecca of craft brewing. Alesmith has my favorite - Speedway Stout. Old Guardian from Stone is really good though, especially the 2006 - soooo good but really nasty hangover the next day. Old Rasputin stout is so tasty as well. My favorite stone beer though is the vanilla bean porter.
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Drokar Gazer
DISORDERLY CONDUCT.
0
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Posted - 2011.11.06 17:18:00 -
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Fille Balle wrote:Kahz Niverrah wrote:Tear Miner wrote:The jig is up! You do realize that beer is pretty much just an ad campaign for a-hole beer snobs, right? Honestly it takes like garbage, I'll take a beer in Belgium over that junk any day.
You sir, have been had. To be honest, I've never seen an ad for arrogant bastard in my life. There are some fantastic beers that come out of Belgium, and there are some terrible ones. Region is probably the worst metric you could use to determine a beer's quality. Taste, obviously, is the best, and taste is subjective. Well, I hate to say so, but regarding the region thing... the Checks invented lager, and as a lager fan, I really feel that the Check lagers are the best lagers. As far as ale goes, I'm not the biggest fan, but I've found some in the UK that suit my taste. As for stout, not a big fan. Guiness can go to the abyss tbh, bacause there are far better stouts around. Now most people whom I've introduced to Check lagers agree with me that these are indeed superior lagers. As for ales, most people I know who like ales say there are some good ones outside the UK, but most of hte good ones are found in the UK. Stout, well, not really sure, don't care, not a big fan. Aside from that, yes, you are correct, taste is a matter of opinion, and highly subjective. Opinions are like 455h0l35. Everybody's got one, and they all stink!
sorry bro, you have no idea what you are talking about. Here in the united states, we have access to all your beers - really we do, and i have tasted many of them, even the famous belgium beers - and they are not comparable to the craft beers here in the US. US is the best beer crafters in the world, and probably still best wine makers.
sorry - but its the truth. |

Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2011.11.06 17:31:00 -
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So I bought a big bottle of AB last night.
Not impressed, and I've got a tinge of a hangover... must of been the dog fish head IPA I drank along with it 
Anywho, this thread reminds of this (decent... well maybe terrible): video |

Kent Reeves
7
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Posted - 2011.11.06 17:33:00 -
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Bunch of beer drinking ladies in this thread.
If you need me I'll be under this coffee table with half a bottle of 151. |

Selinate
99
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Posted - 2011.11.06 17:36:00 -
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Kent Reeves wrote:Bunch of beer drinking ladies in this thread.
If you need me I'll be under this coffee table with half a bottle of 151.
"Half a bottle"
I suppose that's an air plane bottle then, eh?  |

Pinaculus
Aliastra Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.11.06 17:39:00 -
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Lord Ryan wrote:Ana Vyr wrote:I've shown EvE to quite a few of my gamer buddies who play MMO's. I've picked up friends from many fairly hardcore PvP MMO's too, like Ultima and WWII Online...and no takers yet.
The avatar issue was not a failing any of them pointed out.
Two guys thought the ship control system was crap and expected a more wing commander type of thing...these guys are flight sim guys so they found EvE's indirect control scheme untasteful.
One guy considered it for a few weeks, but ultimately turned it down because he found that the game lacked roleplaying options.
A couple of guys didn't care for the way PvP lacked twitch and felt that hand eye coordination played no role.
The fantasy crowd guys hated the game...too many little windows all full of numbers, very slow pace of travelling, activities like mining were too boring etc etc.
Shrug...I think it's a fantastic game, personally. I love Eve, but have the same issues with getting friends to play. Biggest one I hear is it's boring. One guy said I'd rather play WOW it's all action, he also complained about the controls. Most people I know seem to be into those Medal of Honor type games. The hand/eye thing was a bit of an issue for me when I started too. I'm used to being faster of hand and mind than....well everyone else. Eve was the first game I ever played that I wasn't instant win. Which is probably the reason I kept playing. Eventually I quit caring about winning and just enjoyed the game(flying spaceships). To be honest spaceships are the main draw for me, what other spaceship game is out there? I believe unless you have a fetish for spaceships you will probably just move on to something more exciting.
I get the "boring" complaint a lot too. Or that it's confusing. Or that they don't know what to do. A LOT of "I don't really know what I'm supposed to be doing." Personally, I like EVE because after 3 years I'm still pretty bad at it. Other MMOs don't really allow you to be bad at them after you've played for a few months. Add to that, newer MMOs (i.e. RIFT) are impossible to be bad at. You have 2 options at top level. Face-roll Raiding or Face-roll PVP. 
I think a lot of the complaints could be fixed by making Faction Wars into a sensible system, but I have no idea how to do that. Oh, and I'm not a beer snob. I drink Sam Adams at home, and whatever's in the fridge when I'm out and about. |

Kent Reeves
7
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Posted - 2011.11.06 18:17:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Kent Reeves wrote:Bunch of beer drinking ladies in this thread.
If you need me I'll be under this coffee table with half a bottle of 151. "Half a bottle" I suppose that's an air plane bottle then, eh?  Assuming my liver hasn't melted, yes. :) |

Phantom Slave
Cryogenic Creations
22
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Posted - 2011.11.06 18:23:00 -
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That beer is unavailable in my state. I now has a sad, thanks to something I can't get that I didn't know existed until 5 minutes ago. Mmm, I love the smell of pod goo in the morning. |

Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2011.11.06 18:59:00 -
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Phantom Slave wrote:That beer is unavailable in my state. I now has a sad, thanks to something I can't get that I didn't know existed until 5 minutes ago.
Does your state begin with a U and end with a tah? |
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