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Posted - 2013.11.26 06:12:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Ah, I see how it works. Carebares complain about PvPers ruining their game and the whole forum goes into turbojerk mode and pounces on them, but when a PvPer complains that they got outwitted by a carebare then everyone sends them flowers of condolence?
These are some odd looking flowers.
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Posted - 2013.11.26 16:31:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:
You're fantastic as saying nothing while sounding like the authoritive voice of CCP. That's pretty much what you did there say nothing and pretend you provided an answer.
All of those arguments fail.
1. You cannot fit more scrams than you have mid slots.
Sure you can. Bring a friend in an interceptor or two with you.
Quote:3. Bring friends... as I said above, every gang needs 8 interceptors now to tackle one ship?
To tackle a ship that's entirely given up its ability to relocate quickly in order to minimize his chances of being tackled.
Quote:4. To put an 18k depot into reinforced in a tackling ship is impossible before the owner can click it and refit, it takes several seconds to refit.
Yes, a perfectly prepared and ready target sitting next to their previously onlined depot will probably get away. Where's the problem?
A less prepared target gives you a full minute to put the depot into RF, which is plenty of time.
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Yeah um, 4 pvp fit ships which had to think ahead and plan their fits vs 1 pve ratter. Fugging absolutely 100% they're supposed to win if he can't warp out.
What planning did he do but throw a bunch of just in case mods in a depot. You have zero credibility Jenn. You're simply happy you can now carebear in null in 200% safety instead of the old 100% right?
No, that's 4 PvP ships that haven't put any thought into how to fit their ships in something like a year (Hint, the Apoc could also MJD away from the Intys pretty effectively) losing out on a kill because their target has decided to render himself immobile and take several extra minutes at each and every anom to deploy and scoop a Mobile depot to provide himself with extra safety.
Before the patch, all he had to do to get the same level of safety was "be aligned."
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Posted - 2013.11.26 17:44:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Yeah um, 4 pvp fit ships which had to think ahead and plan their fits vs 1 pve ratter. Fugging absolutely 100% they're supposed to win if he can't warp out.
What planning did he do but throw a bunch of just in case mods in a depot. You have zero credibility Jenn. You're simply happy you can now carebear in null in 200% safety instead of the old 100% right? No, that's 4 PvP ships that haven't put any thought into how to fit their ships in something like a year (Hint, the Apoc could also MJD away from the Intys pretty effectively) losing out on a kill because their target has decided to render himself immobile and take several extra minutes at each and every anom to deploy and scoop a Mobile depot to provide himself with extra safety. Before the patch, all he had to do to get the same level of safety was "be aligned." I didn't fit the ships so how did they fail to fit their ships properly?
Ahem.
Infinity Ziona wrote:LMAO. Simple math. Inties = 1 disruptor. Cynabals = 1 scram each. 6 vs 8 WCS. Fail
Also, you limited yourself to 2 Intys, 2 Cruisers. 1 Inty, 1 Dictor, 2 Cruisers is a much better option for the scenario of "trying to kill the most paranoid, best prepared ratter in EVE".
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Posted - 2013.11.26 18:18:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Also, you limited yourself to 2 Intys, 2 Cruisers. 1 Inty, 1 Dictor, 2 Cruisers is a much better option for the scenario of "trying to kill the most pathologically well prepared ratter in EVE". OHHH so now to catch a single ratting ship in eve we require an inty, a dictor and 2 cruisers minimum.
No, to kill the most pathologically well prepared ratting battleship in the game, you probably need a Dictor, and maybe some other stuff.
For the more normal well prepared ratting ship, who doesn't immediately drop an MD as soon as he lands on an anom, you just need to do ~18k damage in the first minute (300 average DPS).
EDIT: My mistake, you only need to do ~3750 damage in the first 60s (62.5dps)
Quote:I didn't fit inties with disruptors, CCP fit inties with disruptors.
I just assembled an Inty hull. Where's my CCP-fitted disruptor?
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Posted - 2013.11.26 22:29:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Oh so they're capable of chasing down a fleeing ship, as in being able to warp to it before it warps off. No, as in if it tries to run away, they will arrive wherever it is going first and stop them. You knowGǪ intercept them. Well we know where they'll be warping to won't we. Right to their precious I WIN button to fit some stabs... you have to be moronic to believe the depot is balanced.
If they're warping to their Depot, you can just tackle them when you land.
You've gone and gotten yourself confused.
Your (and the OP's) entire complaint is predicated on the fleeing enemy sitting right on their already onlined MD when you find them.
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Posted - 2013.11.26 23:04:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:No, you cannot. It becomes invulnerable... that's what a reinforcement timer does... jebus
Sure you can. Just make sure the RF timer runs out while they're asleep.
For fixed timer structures, you just need to put them into RF at the right time. For customizable timers, you have to be a little more creative.
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Posted - 2013.11.27 00:53:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Rhes wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:When I joined in 2003 there were no reinforcement timers So the game should be exactly like it was in 2003? Your arguments keep getting more and more insane... No I didn't say that. Timers however need to removed. Time to take off the training wheels and experience some of the negative aspects of holding massive amounts of space.
Why shouldn't you have to actually engage in a fight in order to take space?
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Posted - 2013.11.27 06:29:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:I can understand the whole 'fit more scrams' as a theoretical argument, but how many times if you are going out solo are you seriously going to fit 2-4 scrams on a ship?
You don't have to fit the scrams yourself. It's like the old saying about which gun to bring to a gun fight ("All of them, and the friends to shoot them").
Now, when you choose to go out alone, there will naturally be targets that you can't beat. In no way is that a problem.
As they say, it's dangerous to go alone.
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Posted - 2013.11.27 23:21:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:
The alliances that recruit globally. Pretty simple. If your 35k man alliance can't hold sov in the low population hours they have an issue with recruitment. It's not something that needs timers to feck up the game for people who are actually online.
In a sandbox game if one of the kids leaves his sandcastle unprotected to go have dinner it shouldn't magically become invulnerable. It's no longer a sandbox in that situation.
The CFC has taken and defended plenty of timers outside US/EU timezones.
Removing timers simply removes the possibility of fights because it's simply unreasonable to expect a group to be able to react within a single siege cycle.
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Posted - 2013.11.28 06:24:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:
I guess I shouldn't expect you to understand basic things like spontaneity, hit and run tactics, guerrilla warfare or any of the other sorts of combat that would normally occur in a normal game that didn't model 17th century "line at at x time and shoot each other" doctrine.
You don't take Cities or Fortresses with Hit and Run Tactics or Guerrilla warfare. And guess what, those tactics are useful for engaging other types of targets in EVE too.
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Infinity Ziona wrote:So the Germans didn't bypass the Maginot line and defeat an entrenched and superior force
1. Blitzkrieg tactics are neither Guerrilla in nature nor "Hit and Run."
2. They never assaulted the Maginot line from the front. They took Neutral, undefended Belgium and went around it.
3. In no way were the French a "Superior Force" to the Germans in 1940.
Quote:Hannibal never used a small army to destroy a numerically superior army
1. Hannibal's armies were not small. They were actually the numerically superior force at Trasimene.
2. All three of his major Italian victories were in pitched battles.
3. Hannibal's armies were veterans. The Roman armies that opposed him were poorly led conscripts (the veteran legions having been sent to Spain to fight Hannibal... whoops).
Oh... and Hannibal lost the war.
Quote:You are entirely and totally wrong, throughout history this has occurred over and over again, using stealth, intelligence, the achilles heel (wonder where that term came from?), the cover of darkness, doing things which others thought were impossible and didn't defend against...
None of this is possible in EVE because of the lame timer system that discourages anything but blob warfare
If you're going to make claims based on it, spend some time to actually learn history. Not just the Cliff Notes version.
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:I'm certainly not wrong. You seem to have skimmed some bad history there :) Well, if that's true, you certainly will be able to actually refute all of his (factually correct) statements in detail, right? I mean, you certainly aren't the kind of person to not back up what you say.
I'm always interested in learning, so I'm sure he'll provide sources along with his detailed refutation.
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:next time use a SB... a single bomb will make the depot hit reinforcement mode. I'll make sure to get a stealth bomber that can warp through bubbles, without showing up in local, reinforce the depot with a bomb that can't be seen while not showing up on the overview and leave before the guy notices then I'll get my inty in to tackle. Thanks for that most helpful tip. I'm sure the OP will be excited to know he can once again solo tackle stuff.
Wow, it's almost like one ship can't perfectly do everything.
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Yeah, wow its almost like an interceptor, built to act as a support vessel for a fleet (not as a gang ship in a gang of interceptors as suggested above) which has the specific job of intercepting and tackling ships, can't do its job at all now.
We even have idiots now suggesting instead we should be tackling with stealth bombers ...
It can't, alone, tackle someone who's prepared specifically to remain safe from it and who executed on that preparation perfectly. If they're not sitting right by their fully onlined MD, or they're a little slow about manually changing their fit, or their active low slot modules are in the middle of their cycle, you end up with plenty of time to RF it and keep them caught.
If a Stealth Bomber is the best tool for the specific situation, whats the problem with using it?
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Domanique Altares wrote:RubyPorto wrote:
If a Stealth Bomber is the best tool for the specific situation, whats the problem with using it?
Because on the Big Rock Candy Mountain where Ziona lives, that's simply not acceptable.
Charlie, you have to come with us to Candy Mountain!
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:40:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:I felt a lot better about this thread when I was posting Backstreet Boys lyrics.
Gotta question for you better answer now, yeah
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Sometimes I wish I could turn back time,
Impossible as it may seem
But I wish I could so bad, baby
You better quit playin' games with my depot
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Ramona McCandless wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Sometimes I wish I could turn back time,
Impossible as it may seem
But I wish I could so bad, baby
You better quit playin' games with my depot If I could turn back time If I could find a way I'd take back those shots that hurt your depot And you'd stay If I could reach the stars I'd give them all to you Then you'd love me, love me Like you used to do
My oh my, do you wanna change your fit?
To have the Depot, baby, tell me why?
My oh my,do you wanna change your fit?
To rule the System, baby, you and I?
Little 'ceptor in a terrible mess
A point all alone, but no mail to present
Dreams of a gank of a tall ratting ship
Runs like a spirit by the local feed
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:They are already next to uncatchable if they have any sense at all.
Especially since you are making this whine from the point of view of the "solo player". Cyno in backup, solo player dies. I'd biomass myself if I ever lost a carrier to one guy. There's a reason all my stealth bombers are training up to fit covert cyno's. Its not so I can solo hot drop caps. Also they are not next to uncatchable. If I go to a renter system and I cloak a covert cyno bomber in every system they own they have to undock. They already do undock with me in there. Its that or not play EVE.
Sounds like you don't have any problem after all.
Decloak and point them as soon as they get to the anom, and they won't have nearly enough time to get the Depot onlined before you incap it.
Glad you've solved your "problem".
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Posted - 2013.12.03 09:15:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Yeah yay what a fantastic solution hey? You're obviously not reading what I have been posting. You can't reinforce the depots. They carrier pilots will have already reinforced them, whenever they recharge enough shields, the carrier pilot simply has to shoot them again.
Drop depot, shoot it to reinforce, scoop it, eject it, anchor it... now you can refit unless someone blaps its entire 14k of ehp.
So you're saying the Carrier pilots will:
Drop the Depot
Wait 60 seconds for it to anchor (during which time they can't refit)
Shoot their own depot to reinforce it (after which point they can't refit)
Then scoop it back up to repeat the idiotic process?
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Posted - 2013.12.04 04:46:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Yeah yay what a fantastic solution hey? You're obviously not reading what I have been posting. You can't reinforce the depots. They carrier pilots will have already reinforced them, whenever they recharge enough shields, the carrier pilot simply has to shoot them again.
Drop depot, shoot it to reinforce, scoop it, eject it, anchor it... now you can refit unless someone blaps its entire 14k of ehp. So you're saying the Carrier pilots will: Drop the Depot Wait 60 seconds for it to anchor (during which time they can't refit from it) Shoot their own depot to reinforce it (after which point they can't refit from it) Then scoop it back up to repeat the idiotic process? No, you can drop it anywhere, reinforce it, put it in your cargo, its shields won't regen unless its deployed. When the carrier gets to their ratting spot the deploy it, and sit next to it. Its now not able to be reinforced as long as the carrier pilot doesn't let it regen back to 30%.
It still takes 60 seconds to deploy. Plenty of time to shoot though 14k EHP.
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