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Haytrid
Mean Corp
Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2013.11.26 00:31:00 -
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There was some Eve Online bashing on Slashdot and I had to come out of retirement to defend it. It was a rare moment of respectable journalism on my part and thought you guys might enjoy the read.
Quoted from SD: "The best review I ever heard of EvE Online was from a guy who said that he wasn't going to pay $15 a month to be chased down and killed by some teenager with daddy issues in the Battlestar Galactica."
My response:
I simply had to come out of Slashdot retirement, recover my password, and run with scissors in disagreement of your assessment of Eve Online.
Let me preface that I am a 39 year old working professional who has had at least one active Eve account since January of 2007. I am neither a teenager with daddy issues (nor was I) nor am I a "newb" and I feel that I am qualified to make an honest and pretty unbiased assessment of Eve Online.
My first real MMO was DAOC and after that I was hooked on them. As I got older though and my interests changed, I found that my time was more meaningfully spent on other, less repetitive and predictable games. However, during my Six years of playing DAOC, I discovered the "glow". That feeling you get while playing an MMO where you make it over the hump, enjoy what it has to offer, and have it figured out enough to be a crazy fun, exhilarating time. And I'm not just talking about the "glow" you get from many games or MMO's in the first month or so that quickly passes, I'm referring to the "glow" that settles in after playing a game with depth and substance for Six months, after which time it transcends from the "exciting new rush" that everyone likes into the warm "glow" that I'm referring to where you know your going to enjoy that game for years to come. And after finally leaving that game, having experienced that contented "glow" for several years, you can look back and reflect on it and always reminisce on it in appreciative reflection.
Eve Online is that game
I'm afraid Eve Online has broke me. Eve Online dragged me, sometimes kicking and screaming, through all of those emotions I felt growing up, those very emotions that forged me into becoming the person I am today. Excitement, anger, anxiety, and the rush of adrenaline that sets your heart racing. The sense of great success that can only be enjoyed with a heavy sigh, a crisp grin and that feeling of comfort that can only be fully attained by leaning heavily back in your chair and the comfort it provides. That devastating loss which forces your teeth to clench, your vision to blur, and renders all unfastened objects in arms reach as potential projectiles
Eve Online is that game
As with life though, Eve Online requires immersion. Unlike other, shallow MMO's, Eve Online will reward your immersion. It's often been said that Eve Online is the most fun game you've never played. Do you think the people that those very stories are about said that? Certainly not, they wanted to be that story, they wanted to write the story and they wanted to be that person. At the end of the day, I realized that those stories were not about the game. . . those stories were about the people, and those people made a difference.
I met some of the most upstanding, honest, mature, and responsible people in Eve Online that I still keep in touch with today. And you know what, when we did fly together, sometimes we just wanted to go out and shoot pixels in space. And we killed that guy, the one who quit the game and wrote about the teenager with daddy issues. That was us. And you know what? We won, he quit. But don't let him fool you, he was never a victim. Eve provided him with all of the tools he needed to turn the tables on us, to thwart our pixel hunting fervor. He simply asked to have himself written out of the story with little fanfare, to give up.
So go ahead and write or relay your stories about being chased down and killed by some teenager with daddy issues. You have shown your mettle, you have allowed yourself to be written into the story as the red shirt ensign, doomed to failure, and written out just as quickly. You could have been great, you could have been the hero, you could have written your own story. You could have been the leader of men. You could have toppled empires. You could have earned the respect of the greatest pilots in Eve.
You could have been any of those things. . . . . . because Eve Online is ALL of those things |
Jim Era
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Posted - 2013.11.26 00:55:00 -
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.11.26 00:59:00 -
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Moved thread to OOPE.
ISD Cura Ursus
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:17:00 -
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What, no link?
The Drake is a Lie |
Garandras
Black Aces
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:31:00 -
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Epic write up
needs link |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:31:00 -
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Nice explanation of what makes Eve great and why it has ruined me for all other MMOs.
I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Daoa Hakoke
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.26 04:25:00 -
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Great way of describing my all time favorite addiction. |
Jane Shapperd
Sanctuary Reapers II
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Posted - 2013.11.26 04:42:00 -
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Epic writing o7 u have confound that guy |
Haytrid
Mean Corp
Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:14:00 -
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I suppose links are good. It was a convo about which MMO to play.
http://ask.slashdot.org/story/13/11/22/2017218/ask-slashdot-mmorpg-recommendations |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:31:00 -
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Thank you for the link. I want to read all the responses to it 
P.S. Excellent write up and it holds much truth. |
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:56:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Nice explanation of what makes Eve great and why it has ruined me for all other MMOs.
This one bears repeating.
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
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Posted - 2013.11.26 16:46:00 -
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Great writeup on what makes Eve so great. I already left a small mark in the universe, but I plan to make a few more  And i'm sure many here who are in it for the long road, will place their marks, or already did!
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Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
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Posted - 2013.11.26 17:35:00 -
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I don't particular care for the EVE community so I'll take this time to point out how bad EVE is and you should feel bad for liking it.
Really its a great game, but the other people who play it are just horrible.
I suppose EVE would make a great single player game in that regards.
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby".
If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down.
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Mr Pragmatic
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:01:00 -
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Eve is the only MMO I've stood by for the past 2 years.
Other MMOs come and go, but Eve remains.
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Alice Saki
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:11:00 -
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Eve over 2 years now.
Any other MMO like a Week tops. nuf said ^_^
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:19:00 -
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I wish the mods had moved this to NCQA instead.
Terrific write-up and I think a lot of new players would benefit from reading it, preferably more then once, and it would help them understand exactly how much of a difference they could make if they just tried to fully understand what EVE has to offer.
+1
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2013.11.27 16:43:00 -
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In some of the other posts, those people on slashdot said some horrible things about us EVE players. "Sociopaths." "No one at all can be trusted." "Scammers." "Use vile and filthy language." "Juveniles fixated on ruining somebody's day." Somewhat true, but it's not the whole picture of course. Looking back, I can remember when I was new to EVE and saw it the same way. I took things more seriously. Disgusting things in people's bios offended me more. Now it's all just water off of a duck's back. Interesting to see the perspective of MMOers outside of EVE. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2013.11.28 00:32:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:In some of the other posts, those people on slashdot said some horrible things about us EVE players. "Sociopaths." "No one at all can be trusted." "Scammers." "Use vile and filthy language." "Juveniles fixated on ruining somebody's day." Somewhat true, but it's not the whole picture of course. Looking back, I can remember when I was new to EVE and saw it the same way. I took things more seriously. Disgusting things in people's bios offended me more. Now it's all just water off of a duck's back. Interesting to see the perspective of MMOers outside of EVE.
The more "freedom" you have in an MMO, the starker the contrast of players.
It's in this game that you will meet the best and worst of humanity.
But you will meet humanity.
Other MMOs that are all but on a "rail" like a side scrolling video game completely lack humanity.
Yeah there are teenagers with "issues" but they are more fun to deal with than drones. I never had an NPC rage in local after sneaking through their gate camp.
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2013.11.30 02:31:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:It's in this game that you will meet the best and worst of humanity.
But you will meet humanity. That's deep.
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Souchek Lehman
Burning Life
Taashti Eskeitan
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Posted - 2013.11.30 16:01:00 -
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This is beautiful man. Thank you.
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Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
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Posted - 2013.12.02 06:26:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:In some of the other posts, those people on slashdot said some horrible things about us EVE players. "Sociopaths." "No one at all can be trusted." "Scammers." "Use vile and filthy language." "Juveniles fixated on ruining somebody's day." Somewhat true, but it's not the whole picture of course. Looking back, I can remember when I was new to EVE and saw it the same way. I took things more seriously. Disgusting things in people's bios offended me more. Now it's all just water off of a duck's back. Interesting to see the perspective of MMOers outside of EVE.
I have played several MMORPGs (not WoW though) and I don't find EVE players all that different from players in other games. What may be the biggest difference is that players are more forthright about hostility because of banhammer application differences. My point is: People are same, just they adapt to different gaming environment.
"The Texan turned out to be good-natured, generous and likeable. In three days no one could stand him." -Joseph Heller, Catch-22 |
Liafcipe9000
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2013.12.02 08:54:00 -
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TL;DR OP pwnd some noob, #tears. 
Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.03 18:52:00 -
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I like EVE too!
What a coincidence that so many of us here happen to like EVE!
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