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Diamond Zerg The Scope Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:19:00 - [1] - Quote Hi, I'd like to start a discussion on nullsec politics. It is currently my opinion that if N3 starts to lose ground and PL assets are significantly at risk, PL will probobly abandon N3 and go back to being nomads. Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example. To me, this is an option that makes a lot of sense considering their tight community. N3 is not a tight community, it is a bandwagon community. PL will mostly stick together if they lose their sov, whereas N3 will not. Now, I could be totally wrong and PL will remain truly loyal to N3 even if a lot of pressure is put on them by CFC/Rus. What are your opinions?
Prince Sanguine 80	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:28:00 - [2] - Quote grr Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me.
Varius Xeral Galactic Trade Syndicate 1791	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:01:00 - [3] - Quote Of course. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
EI Digin Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 1391	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:06:00 - [4] - Quote Yes
Garandras Black Aces Against ALL Authorities 63	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:07:00 - [5] - Quote Its a case of When they start losing not If.. Atm the main thing that is dragging the war out is the TZ diffrence between the two blocs.. The N3 team has the dominace over the US/AU TZ's while the Stainwagon is mainly Rus/Euro and with current Sov mechanics can make it a long process to actually gain ground as it relies on someone making a error on the timer or alarm clocking to make any ground. Now hopefully with the Goons throwing their hat in as the 'Honorable third party' we may see N3 loosing space at a quicker rate
Proletariat Tingtango GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 692	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:10:00 - [6] - Quote Garandras wrote: Its a case of When they start losing not If.. Atm the main thing that is dragging the war out is the TZ diffrence between the two blocs.. The N3 team has the dominace over the US/AU TZ's while the Stainwagon is mainly Rus/Euro and with current Sov mechanics can make it a long process to actually gain ground as it relies on someone making a error on the timer or alarm clocking to make any ground. Now hopefully with the Goons throwing their hat in as the 'Honorable third party' we may see N3 loosing space at a quicker rate Lyris Nairn is going to burn down all the things.
Varius Xeral Galactic Trade Syndicate 1791	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:13:00 - [7] - Quote The only real question is whether it will be enough to save them. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Garandras Black Aces Against ALL Authorities 63	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:15:00 - [8] - Quote But tbh.. Can't wait for the war to be over.. so I can go back to solo/small gang pvp.. I feel like I have been neglecting Provi lately
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5242	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:16:00 - [9] - Quote time to prepare for the next alliance tournament? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 6420	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:23:00 - [10] - Quote "starts" EVE Online - An Unstable Game
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5243	Posted - 2013.11.26 05:02:00 - [11] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: "starts" now now, just because some third parties are having fun wrecking their home (the party got wild) There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
Mr. Orange Band of Freelancers 328	Posted - 2013.11.26 05:11:00 - [12] - Quote Diamond Zerg wrote: Hi, I'd like to start a discussion on nullsec politics. Not in my EvE General Discussion forums!!!! GTFO NOW FROM MY SPACE INTERWEB PAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unsuccessful's Assistant The Troll Bridge 1	Posted - 2013.11.26 05:19:00 - [13] - Quote There is CAOD in the boss' GD. My father will hear about this.
Leigh Akiga Trickle Down Economics 360	Posted - 2013.11.26 05:33:00 - [14] - Quote Unsuccessful's Assistant wrote: There is CAOD CAOD is more dead than Jita Park
Beekeeper Bob Beekeepers Anonymous 810	Posted - 2013.11.26 05:39:00 - [15] - Quote The real question is, how many failed alarm clock ops can the Russians take before they start throwing vodka? CCP, trading shiny pictures for playability since 2003.. EvE, a cutting edge game. The only game to provide Matrix style gameplay for the masses! (trouble is, most people don't have 9 hours to waste on a one hour fight.)
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5243	Posted - 2013.11.26 05:44:00 - [16] - Quote Beekeeper Bob wrote: The real question is, how many failed alarm clock ops can the Russians take before they start throwing vodka? progodlegend has clearly planned for this There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition. 4487	Posted - 2013.11.26 05:48:00 - [17] - Quote If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. .
mynnna GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2430	Posted - 2013.11.26 06:07:00 - [18] - Quote Marlona Sky wrote: If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. I don't think it's really unreasonable for unrelated (but honourable) third parties to see the similarities between TEST and N3 and their respective relationships with PL and be curious. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5244	Posted - 2013.11.26 06:38:00 - [19] - Quote mynnna wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. I don't think it's really unreasonable for unrelated (but honourable) third parties to see the similarities between TEST and N3 and their respective relationships with PL and be curious. Are we suddenly going to leave Solar/BL etc and run home because all our renter sov dropped or because we need to prepare for alliance tournament There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
Caviar Liberta Moira. Villore Accords 218	Posted - 2013.11.26 07:06:00 - [20] - Quote mynnna wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. I don't think it's really unreasonable for unrelated (but honourable) third parties to see the similarities between TEST and N3 and their respective relationships with PL and be curious. So N3 will be joining the Amarr faction warfare in a few months then?
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5244	Posted - 2013.11.26 07:14:00 - [21] - Quote Caviar Liberta wrote: mynnna wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. I don't think it's really unreasonable for unrelated (but honourable) third parties to see the similarities between TEST and N3 and their respective relationships with PL and be curious. So N3 will be joining the Amarr faction warfare in a few months then? First they need to go to a lowsec area, then npc null or something... then eventually there i guess There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
mynnna GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2431	Posted - 2013.11.26 07:16:00 - [22] - Quote Caviar Liberta wrote: mynnna wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. I don't think it's really unreasonable for unrelated (but honourable) third parties to see the similarities between TEST and N3 and their respective relationships with PL and be curious. So N3 will be joining the Amarr faction warfare in a few months then? Nulli has been there before, I'm sure they could return. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5244	Posted - 2013.11.26 07:21:00 - [23] - Quote instead of needing renters to destroy us, maybe they can use fw income instead There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
Tore Vest 354	Posted - 2013.11.26 07:44:00 - [24] - Quote Diamond Zerg wrote: Hi, I'd like to start a discussion on nullsec politics. It is currently my opinion that if N3 starts to lose ground and PL assets are significantly at risk, PL will probobly abandon N3 and go back to being nomads. Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example. To me, this is an option that makes a lot of sense considering PL's tight community. N3 is not a tight community, it is a bandwagon community. PL will mostly stick together if they lose their sov, whereas N3 will not. Now, I could be totally wrong and PL will remain loyal to N3 even if a lot of pressure is put on them by CFC/Rus. What are your opinions? The Mittani.... is it you ? No troll.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5244	Posted - 2013.11.26 07:48:00 - [25] - Quote Diamond Zerg wrote: Hi, I'd like to start a discussion on nullsec politics. It is currently my opinion that if N3 starts to lose ground and PL assets are significantly at risk, PL will probobly abandon N3 and go back to being nomads. Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example. To me, this is an option that makes a lot of sense considering PL's tight community. N3 is not a tight community, it is a bandwagon community. PL will mostly stick together if they lose their sov, whereas N3 will not. Now, I could be totally wrong and PL will remain loyal to N3 even if a lot of pressure is put on them by CFC/Rus. What are your opinions? I believe it's been stated we have an agreement with PL As such, NCdot and Nulli renters are being torched but not any BoT renter space... Oh actually wait, we're just third parties and I guess Solar and BL don't have such agreements. Shrug There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
tiberiusric Comply Or Die 48	Posted - 2013.11.26 08:58:00 - [26] - Quote Diamond Zerg wrote: Hi, I'd like to start a discussion on nullsec politics. It is currently my opinion that if N3 starts to lose ground and PL assets are significantly at risk, PL will probobly abandon N3 and go back to being nomads. Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example. To me, this is an option that makes a lot of sense considering PL's tight community. N3 is not a tight community, it is a bandwagon community. PL will mostly stick together if they lose their sov, whereas N3 will not. Now, I could be totally wrong and PL will remain loyal to N3 even if a lot of pressure is put on them by CFC/Rus. What are your opinions? PL will do whats best for PL. remember PL is an alliance not a coalition like N3, so its a different story. PL will of course want to defend their renter income, its of utter importance, to a point that leadership have told PL members to treat renters in a good manner. That's how important it is. But PL will be there for the gud fights of course, and their allegiance is with NC. not N3 to be honest. Where PL can get on a **** ton of KMS they will do. However I don't feel PL are anything like they used to be at all. Don't feel they are the real game changes anymore, the old FCs don't FC now, the old guard that used to be so prominent are not, and PL is just a different animal, rather than being the truly kick you in your face, mess you up type alliance they used to be, they are just a bloated alliance with high sp players that have a lot of caps. I would like to see PL do a purge and get back to being serious game changers again
Kagura Nikon Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness 847	Posted - 2013.11.26 09:17:00 - [27] - Quote Diamond Zerg wrote: Hi, I'd like to start a discussion on nullsec politics. It is currently my opinion that if N3 starts to lose ground and PL assets are significantly at risk, PL will probobly abandon N3 and go back to being nomads. Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example. To me, this is an option that makes a lot of sense considering PL's tight community. N3 is not a tight community, it is a bandwagon community. PL will mostly stick together if they lose their sov, whereas N3 will not. Now, I could be totally wrong and PL will remain loyal to N3 even if a lot of pressure is put on them by CFC/Rus. What are your opinions? Get a character into a real corp to discuss eve politics. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!"
Toshiro Ozuwara SniggWaffe WAFFLES. 325	Posted - 2013.11.26 09:20:00 - [28] - Quote tiberiusric wrote: I would like to see PL do a purge and get back to being serious game changers again In the last 12 months, ATX winners. Biggest Super Cap dunk in Eve history. Kings of Lowsec. What do they need to do to be game changers, walk on water? We teach ruthlessness and hazing. No blues. Kill everything. In-game channel - Join Sniggwaffe
Signal11th DARKNESS. 1132	Posted - 2013.11.26 09:22:00 - [29] - Quote Scorpion and the Frog. Powered by-áreaTh-áFilter V1.23 "All posts by this pilot are personal held views and not representitive of-áany-ácorp or alliance I am currently a member of. Like I'd give a-ásh*t anyway. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster.
MestariBation Fistful of Finns Bearf0rce One 44	Posted - 2013.11.26 09:33:00 - [30] - Quote Garandras wrote: Its a case of When they start losing not If.. Atm the main thing that is dragging the war out is the TZ diffrence between the two blocs.. The N3 team has the dominace over the US/AU TZ's while the Stainwagon is mainly Rus/Euro and with current Sov mechanics can make it a long process to actually gain ground as it relies on someone making a error on the timer or alarm clocking to make any ground. Now hopefully with the Goons throwing their hat in as the 'Honorable third party' we may see N3 loosing space at a quicker rate Where is your dignity? Seriously dude, that is embarrassing Send me isk im poor
tiberiusric Comply Or Die 48	Posted - 2013.11.26 10:02:00 - [31] - Quote Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: tiberiusric wrote: I would like to see PL do a purge and get back to being serious game changers again In the last 12 months, ATX winners. Biggest Super Cap dunk in Eve history. Kings of Lowsec. What do they need to do to be game changers, walk on water? That's not what we are talking about. Anyway you are a waffle you don't have any idea :) So who won the AT? The old PL guard, not any of the new people. Yeah didnt PL lose a few caps ie Revenant, and didnt I say they have a huge capital fleet, and its wasnt just PL was it. Kings of Lowsec, running around in super cap fleets, and waffles now becoming low sec dwellers hardly makes PL game changers. You know what I'm trying to say mate. I have huge respect for PL from what they used to be like, they just not the same anymore. I mean damn go read the PL forums, its full of old guard saying the same thing,
Toshiro Ozuwara SniggWaffe WAFFLES. 325	Posted - 2013.11.26 10:11:00 - [32] - Quote tiberiusric wrote: I have huge respect for PL from what they used to be like, they just not the same anymore. I mean damn go read the PL forums, its full of old guard saying the same thing, You have access to the PL forums? We teach ruthlessness and hazing. No blues. Kill everything. In-game channel - Join Sniggwaffe
tiberiusric Comply Or Die 48	Posted - 2013.11.26 10:12:00 - [33] - Quote Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: tiberiusric wrote: I have huge respect for PL from what they used to be like, they just not the same anymore. I mean damn go read the PL forums, its full of old guard saying the same thing, You have access to the PL forums? I did yes
Toshiro Ozuwara SniggWaffe WAFFLES. 325	Posted - 2013.11.26 10:13:00 - [34] - Quote tiberiusric wrote: I did yes Yeah, I see that now. RKK. Why did you quit PL? We teach ruthlessness and hazing. No blues. Kill everything. In-game channel - Join Sniggwaffe
tiberiusric Comply Or Die 48	Posted - 2013.11.26 10:15:00 - [35] - Quote Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: tiberiusric wrote: I did yes Yeah, I see that now. RKK. Why did you quit PL? Because as I said, they just not the same old PL anymore. That's really all there is to it tbh
Toshiro Ozuwara SniggWaffe WAFFLES. 325	Posted - 2013.11.26 10:16:00 - [36] - Quote tiberiusric wrote: Because as I said, they just not the same old PL anymore. You think that changed in the month you joined them? We teach ruthlessness and hazing. No blues. Kill everything. In-game channel - Join Sniggwaffe
March rabbit True Horde 888	Posted - 2013.11.26 11:13:00 - [37] - Quote as long as they enjoy TiDi and node crashes i could not care less about all this "politics". The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1172	Posted - 2013.11.26 11:15:00 - [38] - Quote Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: tiberiusric wrote: I would like to see PL do a purge and get back to being serious game changers again In the last 12 months, ATX winners. Biggest Super Cap dunk in Eve history. Kings of Lowsec. What do they need to do to be game changers, walk on water? Yeah but do they have a 35000 man Blob?!!! ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5247	Posted - 2013.11.26 13:23:00 - [39] - Quote Sentamon wrote: Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: tiberiusric wrote: I would like to see PL do a purge and get back to being serious game changers again In the last 12 months, ATX winners. Biggest Super Cap dunk in Eve history. Kings of Lowsec. What do they need to do to be game changers, walk on water? Yeah but do they have a 35000 man Blob?!!! who needs it when you are elite pvping with supercap blob There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
Johnny Marzetti GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1520	Posted - 2013.11.26 14:24:00 - [40] - Quote Marlona Sky wrote: If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. No one reads that shitpile of a forum, nor should they have to. Null politics affect the rest of the game and it's dumb to restrict that discussion from GD.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5252	Posted - 2013.11.26 14:28:00 - [41] - Quote Johnny Marzetti wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. No one reads that shitpile of a forum, nor should they have to. Null politics affect the rest of the game and it's dumb to restrict that discussion from GD. Didn't progodlegend already end your 0.0 dreams There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
Johnny Marzetti GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1521	Posted - 2013.11.26 14:38:00 - [42] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Johnny Marzetti wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. No one reads that shitpile of a forum, nor should they have to. Null politics affect the rest of the game and it's dumb to restrict that discussion from GD. Didn't progodlegend already end your 0.0 dreams yes
KuroVolt The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1124	Posted - 2013.11.26 15:13:00 - [43] - Quote Diamond Zerg wrote: Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example. If they manage to p!ss off N3, they wont have alot of clients left who can afford their services. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 8781	Posted - 2013.11.26 15:16:00 - [44] - Quote KuroVolt wrote: Diamond Zerg wrote: Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example. If they manage to p!ss off N3, they wont have alot of clients left who can afford their services. Will hotdrop for food. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Lazy Eagle FUITA Easily Excited 21	Posted - 2013.11.26 15:17:00 - [45] - Quote Kagura Nikon wrote: Diamond Zerg wrote: Hi, I'd like to start a discussion on nullsec politics. It is currently my opinion that if N3 starts to lose ground and PL assets are significantly at risk, PL will probobly abandon N3 and go back to being nomads. Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example. To me, this is an option that makes a lot of sense considering PL's tight community. N3 is not a tight community, it is a bandwagon community. PL will mostly stick together if they lose their sov, whereas N3 will not. Now, I could be totally wrong and PL will remain loyal to N3 even if a lot of pressure is put on them by CFC/Rus. What are your opinions? Get a character into a real corp to discuss eve politics. Really... cause (U-MAD) is ~real~ and completly matters.
Johnny Marzetti GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1523	Posted - 2013.11.26 15:19:00 - [46] - Quote baltec1 wrote: KuroVolt wrote: Diamond Zerg wrote: Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example. If they manage to p!ss off N3, they wont have alot of clients left who can afford their services. Will hotdrop for food. It's hot pocket o'clock
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5252	Posted - 2013.11.26 15:22:00 - [47] - Quote Johnny Marzetti wrote: baltec1 wrote: KuroVolt wrote: Diamond Zerg wrote: Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example. If they manage to p!ss off N3, they wont have alot of clients left who can afford their services. Will hotdrop for food. It's hot pocket o'clock so... didn't need those renters anyway? Maybe BL can afford them, since they have the cfc as their debt pets after an infinity isk for fountain There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
Malcolm from Marketing Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.11.26 15:31:00 - [48] - Quote Yes they will. As soon as N3 start losing the battle, it will conveniently be time for PL to go practice for next years Alliance Tournament. But they will still have N3's back, just from the other side of the galaxy. They're bro's right guys, guys?...........Guys???!!

ISD Suvetar ISD Community Communications Liaisons 2623	Posted - 2013.11.26 16:40:00 - [49] - Quote Hi, Sorry to be a kill joy, but discussion of null-sec politics belongs in the CAOD forum, and as you're not in a null-sec corporation; you can't post there, so I have to lock this thread rather then move it. If you have a main, please feel to post on it, in the correct forum of course Thanks. ISD Suvetar Captain/Commando Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department


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