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Knights Armament
But I p0op from there
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:15:00 -
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Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk. https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=29554516-05f9-4eca-a942-32e1701a6569&action=buddy |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
467
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:16:00 -
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As with so many things in EVE, it's only as easy as the other guy makes it. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
722
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:20:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk.
This is typical high-sec gameplay, made viable just by the specifics HS "protection" mechanics.
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Cavalira
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
209
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:20:00 -
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Some people like cleaning toilets while others like gate camping. |

gobbybobby
Negative-Impact Cult of War
25
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:25:00 -
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Have you considered going around old man star? I know it takes a few more jumps but you can go around old man star or even through it, via different gates. Use the map. |

embrel
BamBam Inc.
79
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:26:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk.
shouldn't it be possible to bait and trap them? |

Knights Armament
But I p0op from there
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:27:00 -
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gobbybobby wrote:Have you considered going around old man star? I know it takes a few more jumps but you can go around old man star or even through it, via different gates. Use the map.
I live in old man star https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=29554516-05f9-4eca-a942-32e1701a6569&action=buddy |

Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
722
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:31:00 -
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embrel wrote:Knights Armament wrote:Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk. shouldn't it be possible to bait and trap them?
Yep. sending some juicy bait to them and as soon as they've aggression timer warp in the rest of the gang |

gobbybobby
Negative-Impact Cult of War
25
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:32:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:gobbybobby wrote:Have you considered going around old man star? I know it takes a few more jumps but you can go around old man star or even through it, via different gates. Use the map. I live in old man star
When I used to be in fac war, the solution to avoiding Old man star camp was to go, Allamotte to Ladistier and get into OMS that way. The Route was rarely camped and generally low traffic compared to the Villore/ OMS gate. This was a while ago mind. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4750
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:08:00 -
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Cavalira wrote:Some people like cleaning toilets while others like gate camping. LOL |
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sparx Thiesant
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:12:00 -
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Bait, blops, win  |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
2023
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:19:00 -
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Good luck popping probably brick-tanked TIIIs in 60 seconds minus however long it takes you to light a cyno, bridge, jump, and load grid. |

Matarella
Cyclone Research
30
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:25:00 -
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having 30 abadons docked up in the system that are all in difrent corps and the have something juice bait them. |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:29:00 -
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Cavalira wrote:Some people like cleaning toilets while others like gate camping.
While I can surely not speak of the gentlemen that serve this particular gate, the matter is - well known to most of you - not entirely unfamiliar to the entrepreneurs of TunDraGon. While cleaning a public toilet is a dirty work, it bares a high social additional value - much like "gate-camping". We pretty much do the society of New Eden a favor by extending the education of new capsuleers beyond the borders of high sec. Yes - I dare to say - our selfless acts of charity are the reason a lot of people turn to pvp in the first place! The ones that eventually burst in anger and tears were not to be saved in the first place.....(sigh) So do not judge the good people of Villore and Old man star - they are doing it for you all out there!
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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stationmonkey
Synthetic Arbitration
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:29:00 -
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you could always "bribe" them to let you by. I am sure that would work!
Fly True, Strike Sure, and Keep Up!
Stationmonkey |

Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1982
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:39:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk.
Your failure is that you're thinking in terms of isk instead of enjoyment. Typical carebear mistake. Kills are enjoyable, losses are not. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Diamond Zerg
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:41:00 -
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stationmonkey wrote:you could always "bribe" them to let you by. I am sure that would work!
Fly True, Strike Sure, and Keep Up!
Stationmonkey
Isn't using copy paste to construct a makeshift signature prohibited? |

flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1626
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:42:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk.
Rather them then me .... gatecamping all day is SO 2005 .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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NearNihil
Every time is Fuwa time
71
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:58:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Good luck popping probably brick-tanked TIIIs in 60 seconds minus however long it takes you to light a cyno, bridge, jump, and load grid. Or have them become Criminal by sending in anything, really, and not trying to warp your pod out. Then decloak/warp in/jump in the tackle and enjoy them either dying to your gang or jumping into highsec and getting CONCORDOKKEN'd. |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1140
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Posted - 2013.11.27 14:10:00 -
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This should be in the CaP forum.
Has anyone seen Doc Fury around lately? This is normally his job. :/ BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
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Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
321
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Posted - 2013.11.27 14:16:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:embrel wrote:Knights Armament wrote:Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk. shouldn't it be possible to bait and trap them? Yep. sending some juicy bait to them and as soon as they've aggression timer CYNO in the rest of the gang
FYP here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY |

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
758
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Posted - 2013.11.27 15:05:00 -
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NearNihil wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:Good luck popping probably brick-tanked TIIIs in 60 seconds minus however long it takes you to light a cyno, bridge, jump, and load grid. Or have them become Criminal by sending in anything, really, and not trying to warp your pod out. Then decloak/warp in/jump in the tackle and enjoy them either dying to your gang or jumping into highsec and getting CONCORDOKKEN'd.
Please note only Criminals (pod killers) will get CONCORDOKKEN in this case. Suspects (ship killers) do not get shot by CONCORD when they enter hisec. |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
221
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Posted - 2013.11.27 15:18:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk.
A couple things you are doing wrong I would say.
You need to wait for them to aggress and then they can't simply jump into high sec.
If they jump into high sec with a criminal flag then concord will be happy to remove them from their ship then.
Have a cyno black ops friend or a friend with a cyno friend so you can hot drop some hurt on them. |

NearNihil
Every time is Fuwa time
71
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Posted - 2013.11.27 15:19:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:NearNihil wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:Good luck popping probably brick-tanked TIIIs in 60 seconds minus however long it takes you to light a cyno, bridge, jump, and load grid. Or have them become Criminal by sending in anything, really, and not trying to warp your pod out. Then decloak/warp in/jump in the tackle and enjoy them either dying to your gang or jumping into highsec and getting CONCORDOKKEN'd. Please note only Criminals (pod killers) will get CONCORDOKKEN in this case. Suspects (ship killers) do not get shot by CONCORD when they enter hisec. Hence the "not trying to warp your pod out" bit. I've looked at the killboards and they seem happy to pod people, so it shouldn't be difficult. |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
221
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Posted - 2013.11.27 15:21:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:embrel wrote:Knights Armament wrote:Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk. shouldn't it be possible to bait and trap them? Yep. sending some juicy bait to them and as soon as they've aggression timer warp in the rest of the gang
Brick tanked cyno faction battleship bait. |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2237
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Posted - 2013.11.27 15:24:00 -
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Just grief them the carebear way: Jump to and fro through their gatecamp with a blockade runner while posting screenshots of your billion ISK cargo hold and ever growing wallet in local. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
515
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Posted - 2013.11.27 15:29:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk.
camping a gate is not farming isk.
camping the same low-hi gate is pretty repeatable behavior and unless they're super-skittish and thus aren't actually killing anything, baiting and killing one of them should be a simple matter for a small gang that has a plan. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Karrl Tian
Bourbon Bandits Anarchy.
266
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Posted - 2013.11.27 16:17:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote: I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk.
Uh-huh... and CCP hates highsec and Goonswarm recruits in-game.
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fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2013.11.27 16:52:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:Knights Armament wrote:Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk. This is typical high-sec gameplay, made viable just by the specifics HS "protection" mechanics. devs are lazy, push them out of theit comfort zone.
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Lazy Eagle
FUITA Easily Excited
28
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Posted - 2013.11.27 19:08:00 -
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Just move to the Amarr lowsec pockets, they are NEVER camped.....  |
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