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Raid
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Posted - 2006.02.27 13:23:00 -
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 Originally by: DB Preacher
So SA members now think that Trigger was SirMolle's slave.
Genius.
dbp
/me weeds through the propoganda
So this is the method you guys are using to defeat SA? Start posts like this one questioning SA leadership?...
Trying to Avoid answering questions and instead trying to point the finger at Orc A?..
Or my personal favorite... asking SA to look internally instead of externally for the reasons BOB went to war...
Clearly all your trying to acomplish here is to break up SA from within and save yourself the trouble or actually fighting them inside of stain.
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Posted - 2006.02.27 14:42:00 -
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Without a doubt if BOB had not steped in FIX would have fallen. SA's goal in this war (and in every other FIX war) has been the elimination of FIX. More so in the last two than the first one. The first FIX war was started by SA. The second and third wars were started when FIX attacked SA.. you talk about trustworthy?
Explain to me how FIX... who INSTIGATED the fight with SA is more trustworthy then the alliance that has been fighting along side Evolution since before the birth of CA.
This has NEVER been about trustworthy alliances. This is all about how safe BOB can make their mining operations in Delve. You string out yourselves across fountain and northern areas and anyone with a force big enough can walk into delve and do some damage before your fleets can get back. FIX offered protection from such a threat as they would shield you with juicy roid huging miners who were easier to kill.
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Posted - 2006.02.27 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Why don't you take your Curse Coalition Fleet down to Delve and try it?
Otherwise, go stfu about something you know absolutely nothing about.
dbp
You wanna beat your chest any louder dbp? I dont think the guys in cache heard you... I know more about the situaion than most of the non sa/fix/bob posting on here.
The fact that want to point out that i know nothing about the situation than some of the other people (those who pat you on the back that is..) speaks volumes about your uber forum whoring skills. How you managed to get lvl 6 ill never know.
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Posted - 2006.02.27 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Raytesh
Amazing Raid. You and I both know if SA had conquered FIX they would have never held it. Been following these threads on and off while in between classes and what you said has struck out at me. SA may have been holding off FAT but as previously stated by various members of SA they dont want to maintain stations they want to have fun. Being how as i have been a CEO in SA as well as the forum adminstrator to the SA forums in the past i have a little bit of knowledge of what happened. This is generally what happened after CA fell and the major PvP corps left SE at the time and went off to fight battles else where. They didnt want to maintain stations or carebear. And so those corps who lived down in the southern regions as well as the few that were in northern stain in Catch stayed on to rebuild the empire after its primary pvp force left. Those same PvP corps are the primary driving forces behind the current SA today. Not sure if things have changed since then but im pretty sure that they dont want to maintain the stations in querious if they had conquered them. Keeping in mind it that it does require large amounts of time and energy to maintain a network of POS as well as defending them. After all Orc A has already called FIX a carebear alliance and carebears can maintain POS very well. Lots of ice mining and runs for trade goods.
Yea i dont see the current SA wanting to hold querious.
Ray, yes i know who you are and if you remember me you'll know i was there to witness the same things you did back in the SA/SE vs CA days. However unlike you i was also there for the coalition vs Fix days... I dont think i ever said they wanted to hold querious, just break FIX.
In respons to blacklights explination... Your intentions when steping in might have been good, however you steped in at the absolute wrong time. Instead of steping in when one alliance was launching a major offensive you should have stoped it right at the begining before any of this could happen. Or alternativly you should have let one get seriously injured. Thats the ONLY way a comflict between the two would be resolved. Neither side likes the other and have a "half" war against each other for the THIRD time is more unsatisfying than any victory of defeat.
So, while you intentions might have been good you ended up steping on one friends toes and basically gave them no options. There really was only two choices at the time for SA. Back away from the fight that they are finaly making progress in.. or.. get into a war with bob. There was no other options... Horrible timing to say the least, you guys are just as responsible as SA is for the current conlfict. Had you steped in before it started or after one alliance was on its knees you would still have two friends instead of one.
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Eisheth Zenunim
Impressive post there BlackLight. According to everything that has been posted on this thread it seems as if youÆre post is the best sum up of the whole situation. In youÆre words "It's there in black and white". Refraining from flaming anyone and as a relatively new player to EVE, a suggestion to SA's leadership should be to really reconsider their current representative as he has seriously put his Alliance's reputation on the line. The question would rather be if this was not provoked intentionally. Was SA trying to deliberately start an all out war with BoB and didn't want to directly invade them in the first place?
You obvisouly dont know the history between FIX and SA/SE/Coalition. As an admited new player you should not be telling SA who should represent them without knowing all the players involved.
Originally by: Eisheth Zenunim
To those that question BoBs intervention in the conflict, well, it's simple, they can. "Good conflict, we'll take it". They could play any card they wanted and have always been seen in the eyes of the community as the bad ones, but in this conflict I believe they have taken the most honourable posture.
Because you can do something doesnt mean you should. I can take my car and crash it into someones house, doesnt mean I should do that. Like i said above, your a new player and dont know the background so you shouldnt be telling us who the honorable person is without knowing the players and history.
Originally by: Eisheth Zenunim
From a neutral view point, good luck to all sides, and let there be lots of spanking good fun.
Dont think you're neutral here dude. If you were neutral you would have adressed some of the mistakes otehr alliances have made. BOB & FIX should share equal blame in how this all unfolded. By not even adressing these issues you have taken one side.
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Posted - 2006.03.01 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Saal Iverson
<SA/SE/Coalition> We woulda shoudla coulda beat fix down.
but DIDNT...... strange that. your best oppotunity was your first along side back then bob atuk, russians, shrina and god knows who else was attacking fix back then.
why do you always keep*****ing it up?
HUH? BOB kept steping in to save Fix... thats why... are you even reading the thread dude? or are you just posting because you dont like SA?
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