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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.09.04 11:06:00 -
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all hail Iraqi Information Minister  --
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Josephine
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Posted - 2003.09.04 11:10:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: A plague called Evolution soon descended upon Venal and many of the smaller corps in Venal became despondent, until Evolution and their friends in Xanadu captured the ear of Jade, who created a new council and vote to expel TTI from Xanadu.
Either this is a typo.. or Ragnar has managed the worst wordplay ever.
Well it makes little sense if it isn't a typo, afterall Jade created the council to remove TTI from venal and not xanadu...
As for Stavr0s and his involvement, he posted about as much on the forums, in order to try to do one last blow against TTI before m00 leave the game they decided to post that fun little comment regarding TTI paying them while doing raids on fountain. I assume they didn't believe anyone in fountain would take a joke like that seriously, afterall it's wellknown TTI and m0o aren't exaclty the most friendly corps with each other, nor is Stavr0s what you call a fan of TTI or Ragnar, heck Stavr0s has more ISK than he needs so why bother doing some crappy military ops for guys he doesn't like anyways...and yes indeed I've still not found any reasoning for TTI to attack fountain through pirate means when they are trying to focus their operations on strenghtening Venal alliance at the same time.
Really that matters little though, afterall we have had Tornsoul foreit whatever credibility he had as a longstanding community member by him on several occasions pointing at his status as enough to validify the evidence which hence has been shown by the original source of same evidence as just another joke. Good game Tornsoul, I do assume you won't be posting comments like that regarding evidence until you have thought through and questioned said evidence first. I'm really intrested in how you came to the conclusion that it in this case had to be real, believing a wellknown pirate from a wellknown pirate corp that has reputation for killing anything on sight without actually questioning this or even trying to find a reason for the accused actions on side of TTI in my book has to be the most simpleminded action I have yet to see from a CEO in the universe of EVE. I'm sure the members of BIG are really fond of you, I doubt I'd be able to function in a corp where the CEO publically humiliates himself like that and shows such lack of intellect and reasoning. And yes you'll be surprised at what I am about to unveil aswell, the reason for not joining TTI even thgouh I could have been accepted will soon be announced...
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Mr Blonde
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Posted - 2003.09.04 11:16:00 -
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Out of pure [OOC] interest
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[OOC] Ragnar do you support any OOG attacks or RL threats?
No I do not.
So my pure personal question directed at Ragnar is, has Ctaesis been fired from Taggart for his little attack on Jade http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=29686&page=1 or is Taggart supporting such actions by their members and keeping him around incase any future dirty work might come up?? |

Revolution
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Posted - 2003.09.04 11:21:00 -
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its funny he says they had nothing to do with the deleting of the scope, yet cairnz/dagny taggart made this post
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Play the game and leave our forums the **** alone then. Go on about your business, and dwell like puny men.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=29641
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Femme Fatal
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Posted - 2003.09.04 11:22:00 -
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Edited by: Femme Fatal on 04/09/2003 11:22:24
Quote:
Quote:
Either this is a typo.. or Ragnar has managed the worst wordplay ever.
Well it makes little sense if it isn't a typo, afterall Jade created the council to remove TTI from venal and not xanadu...
As you see I said wordplay (horrible one I must say)..
XanÀaÀdu - An idyllic, beautiful place (according to www.dictionary.com)
So if you consider Venal an idyllic, beautiful place (as TTI must or they wouldnt be fighting over it) and replace the word Venal with Xanadu - Bamm you have one hell of a horrible wordplay.
(Just to clear that up)
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Mitch Taylor
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Posted - 2003.09.04 11:32:00 -
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Just heard on eve radio- "We all know TTI, well TTI have their own tune and here it is"
*mary hopkin - those were the days my friend comes on*
LOL
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Tristan
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Posted - 2003.09.04 11:54:00 -
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Dont forget "POD - BOOM!"
heh
TTI listen to EVE radio by any chance? or are you going to complain about that being biased too now.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.04 12:02:00 -
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Rosebud
Convert Stations
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Dosh
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Posted - 2003.09.04 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Dosh on 04/09/2003 12:16:35
Quote: Really that matters little though, afterall we have had Tornsoul foreit whatever credibility he had as a longstanding community member by him on several occasions pointing at his status as enough to validify the evidence which hence has been shown by the original source of same evidence as just another joke. Good game Tornsoul, I do assume you won't be posting comments like that regarding evidence until you have thought through and questioned said evidence first. I'm really intrested in how you came to the conclusion that it in this case had to be real, believing a wellknown pirate from a wellknown pirate corp that has reputation for killing anything on sight without actually questioning this or even trying to find a reason for the accused actions on side of TTI in my book has to be the most simpleminded action I have yet to see from a CEO in the universe of EVE. I'm sure the members of BIG are really fond of you, I doubt I'd be able to function in a corp where the CEO publically humiliates himself like that and shows such lack of intellect and reasoning. And yes you'll be surprised at what I am about to unveil aswell, the reason for not joining TTI even thgouh I could have been accepted will soon be announced...
Josephine,
You are a clueless pathetic attention *****.
You accuse TornSoul of believing a wellknown pirate, even though he did no such thing, yet you did exactly that yourself by taking Stavro's latest rant at face value.
There is a posted screenshot of a TTI member paying out 25M per Evol/Xan bship hit. There are ex-VA corp members confirming the existence of TTI bounties. Believe the evidence or not, but ad hominem attack on TornSoul just shows what a sorry little puke you are.
Did you apply to BIG and get rejected too?
As to why you get rejected by TTI. I got news for you --> No one cares.
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The Surgeon
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Posted - 2003.09.04 12:20:00 -
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Josephine, do you actually know what you're talking about?
Quote: I've still not found any reasoning for TTI to attack fountain through pirate means when they are trying to focus their operations on strenghtening Venal alliance at the same time
I'll give you a reason....they weren't EVER attempting to strengthen the Venal Alliance. Go read the whole Venal thread again, and you will find that they refused to aid the alliance.
Quote: the reason for not joining TTI even thgouh I could have been accepted will soon be announced...
You were annoyed that Ragnar turned out to be nearly as arrogant as yourself? You seriously think people wont be able to sleep as they will be hanging on your reasons? "Examined......Diagnosed......Now comes the Surgery."
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.04 12:44:00 -
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"crap"
haha
"ôRagnar do you think Jade is a power-hungry ***** with an empire built only in vexing literary words who would pursue any Machiavellian path to feed her megalomania?ö
ôYes, next question.ö "
lol - Well I have always enjoyed Ragnars writings as Jades. But we still await your resignation from TTI.
The Wretch Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Yoseph Cohen
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:04:00 -
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I have to say that I got into this debate feeling that both sides were equally wrong, but the reasons given for attempting to "Stamp out" TTI were of a purely communist, and class warfarized nature. However, as I dig deeper, I can not help but come to the conclusion that aside from prehaps a couple of people that work for TTI, and a few bad PR moves, or lack of a PR spin machine, TTI has done absolutely nothing wrong, and is constantly attacked because it is rich, and is successful. I for one am sick of it. You people come across much like the French and the Germans in the RL today. You have no power. You're angry you have no power. And instead of doing something to fix it, you bash the people that do have power. Well here's some common sense for you - put up or shut up. And here's my advice for Ragnar - Fight em at the jump gates, fight them in the asteroid belts, fight them at the planets, and NEVER, NEVER, NEVER give up!
Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces (A divison of Israeli Space Corporation) |

j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:08:00 -
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"Very clever way to include half truths with tons of lies in the text. Indeed a very intelligent man, but you can't fool me.
For example yes, almost all discussions of TTI's wealth are done by the public, (..)"
... Actually, no; the 'Why are we so hated? perhaps it's because we are the most rich and people are mean and jealous of success' mantra is regularly brought up by various TTi members, rather than the public... which makes the original press conference answer rather amusing. :s
re: the conference itself, a nice piece of fiction... perhaps reposting it to Summit would be a good idea?
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Cookie
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:11:00 -
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umm, Mr. Cohen ... shall i describe the sun for you, as you obviously will never see it, since your head seems to be buried in Ragnar's rear end ?
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Yoseph Cohen
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:13:00 -
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Quote: umm, Mr. Cohen ... shall i describe the sun for you, as you obviously will never see it, since your head seems to be buried in Ragnar's rear end ?
Oooooooh. Wooooooooow. Intelligent debate at its best!
God I am sick of people like you, who's IQ is so low, even when multipled by 3, it doesn't even hit triple digits.
For crying out loud, would SOMEONE come up with an arguement BESIDES class warfare, personal attacks, and generalized bull**** to attack TTI? Just one, logical, thought out arguement that doesn't even spin. That's all I ask.
Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces (A divison of Israeli Space Corporation) |

Nasty Ways
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Nasty Ways on 04/09/2003 13:19:29
Quote: Oooooooh. Wooooooooow. Intelligent debate at its best!
God I am sick of people like you, who's IQ is so low, even when multipled by 3, it doesn't even hit triple digits.
For crying out loud, would SOMEONE come up with an arguement BESIDES class warfare, personal attacks, and generalized bull**** to attack TTI? Just one, logical, thought out arguement that doesn't even spin. That's all I ask.
Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces
weren't you the one bringing rl comparisons in here?
and asking for logical, thought out arguments without spin... heh... did you even read that "ragnar interviews ragnar" fiction?
how could you even dare to make remarks at other ppls intelligence?
clown.
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Cookie
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:19:00 -
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you might want to re-read all the threads about this issue again ?
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:23:00 -
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Ragnar you are so sad its frightening.
Leave EVE. Now.
For everyones sake.
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Yoseph Cohen
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:23:00 -
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I'm sure Ragnar does spin. I'm honest enough to admit that, however. The thing is, YOU are not honest enough to admit that Jade Constantine is spin central, and more aptly put (especially after the "Oooo TTI hired Moo!....not, came out), lies central.
Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces (A divison of Israeli Space Corporation) |

Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:30:00 -
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"Interesting stuff - is it true that the whole Moo thing was just made up by Stavros?"
He has claimed as much in a thread on this forum.
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:31:00 -
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Vote is brought up to consider a strategic withdrawl of TTi from official membership as part of the war effort against FA.
Choice 1: convince other alliance members that you don't want that to happen. Win a vote and be happy that your opinion has been officially validated and any who act against it are now acting against the alliance.
Choice 2: make no attempt to convince others, apart from intimidating the voters using phrases like 'a safe and an unsafe position' in secret conversations. Declare war on anyone expressing a different opinion. Hire contract killers to attack the alliance spokesperson 20 times. Side with the pirates and bring in REAL scum like M3G4, whilst at the same time claiming to be on the side of the good guys.
One of the above is the choice taken by someone who behaves honourably, and one is the course taken by a lunatic who reaches for the gun as a first choice option.
I'm sorry, TTi clearly made a massive mistake. This time the pressure will not be relieved after a week. Their operations in Venal are all but over and soon any open activity in empire space will come to a close as well. Lying low for a week will not cause people to get bored and/or forget about you.
We eagerly look forward to the availability of construction platforms, mobile refineries and titans so that you can look on in envy as others enjoy them whilst you sit in your stations hiding from a foe that never forgets. Surrender or permanent obscurity as a second rate scordite mining 'megacorp' that cadets use as target practice are your only real options TTi.
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Darion MacVale
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:35:00 -
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Quote: "Interesting stuff - is it true that the whole Moo thing was just made up by Stavros?"
He has claimed as much in a thread on this forum.
The thing about that is that I can claim that I was hired by Ragnar to screw with the market in Venal space to benefit TTI.
And then, weeks later, I can come back and claim it was a huge joke and that nothing of the sort really happened.
Which statement has more weight? Once something has been admitted to, it's hard to retract, regardless of the validity.
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Fortoye Drak
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:39:00 -
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[OOC] Ragnar do you support any OOG attacks or RL threats?
No I do not. I do ask that people do not steal from the website that I privately own and have for my friends and family. I donÆt feel comfortable with others in there, thanks. As for TTI or me ever going after someone OOG about in-game issues, I am 100 percent against that. Additionally, neither I nor anyone I know did anything to shut down the Scope. They reproduced my interview in full, which I told them I appreciated. People say TTI shut down the scope... another baseless lie. As everyone that knows me knows, I want to keep it all in the game. [/OOC]
What is interesting is how this self-made press conference isnt actually for any of us but is for the TTi membership.
Internal division and suspicion over Ragnars involvement with The Scope has caused a lot of questions.
This attempt to deny any involvement at all is interesting as it is a very desperate bid to keep his position in TTI.
Should anybody publish proof of Ragnars true invovlement with The Scope then we can be sure that he will find himself not only looking desperately stupid, but also a pathological liar in the eyes of everybody.
Ragnar himself no doubt feels confident this will not happen, however our sources indicate that his confidence is misplaced.
Yes Ragnar, chew on that, a mole within that other organisation you so like contacting in RL... what now the price of retracting your words above?
Press Liason
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Neptunus
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:40:00 -
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I am beginning to think these Jericho Faction people are a living in a fantasy world.
As for people that think Ragnar has a runaway ego or whatever, I don't even think you read the substance of what he said! He said over and over again glowing things about his friends and allies and even said that any number of people could lead Taggart. Hey, someone has to come out and speak for the corp, no? And at least he keeps in in RP and fun. It's good to see a response from Taggart anyway. My experiences in game with them have been very good.
And people who are upset with Ragnar interviewing Ragnar, if you look in that same forum you see an interview from just a few days ago with The Scope. The questions Ragnar asked himself were good, hard, and funny questions I thought. Clearly some of you are such TTI haters you will never be happy I can tell.
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Havana
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:43:00 -
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Quote:
For crying out loud, would SOMEONE come up with an arguement BESIDES class warfare, personal attacks, and generalized bull**** to attack TTI?
INO, MDW, The Scope.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:44:00 -
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Darion: That's why we exercise common sense, and listen to the other people who might know of the issue.
People were told by TTi that, no, they hadn't hired m0o/sin.
People were told by other pirate corporations that they hadn't heard a word about this bounty money on FA.
People had explained to them in agonizing detail why such a move on TTi's part made no sense when considered in the context of their corporate philosophy.
All of these points were dismissed, and anyone who asked for more proof or verification on the matter was accused of being a TTi alt :)
I tend to not believe things I hear, unless I see them ingame, or they are confirmed by multiple people who are not trying to hide their identities.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:46:00 -
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Quote: And people who are upset with Ragnar interviewing Ragnar, if you look in that same forum you see an interview from just a few days ago with The Scope.
You wont find any interview with The Scope though will you? Because that interview was pulled when The Scope got ****-canned into "weather and weddings".
Now go ask your boss to say the same as he has above but strapped to a lie detector. You will be surprised at the results.
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:49:00 -
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Yoseph Cohen,
Ingnorance must be your bliss.
You simply have no idea.
The Wretch Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Ragnar
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Ragnar on 04/09/2003 14:04:43
Quote: Ragnar himself no doubt feels confident this will not happen, however our sources indicate that his confidence is misplaced.
[OOC] Hey Drak, bite my shiny metal ass.
I didn't have anything to do with The Scope being shut down and I didn't direct anyone at CCP or Taggart or anywhere else to do it. Yes, I can't control everyone at Taggart with my evil hypnosis, and maybe they did something, but whatever happened your guess is as good as mine.
I gave a long hour long interview to the Scope and thought thier blue text in game was pretty dang cool.
Okay now go and do something valuable with your life. Stop ****in' in our sandbox.
[OOC] (as for other comments in this thread I let my statement on our website stand) - Ragnar Danneskj÷ld Taggart Transdimensional, Inc.
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Yoseph Cohen
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Posted - 2003.09.04 13:51:00 -
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Quote: Yoseph Cohen,
Ingnorance must be your bliss.
You simply have no idea.
For the last freaking time, use an arguement besides lame one liners, cliches, and fake logs that say XXX> YYY>.
Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces (A divison of Israeli Space Corporation) |
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