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Keta Min
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:04:00 -
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our corp chat is usually highly obscene but noone is out to insult someone it's just that we're sick people. on an other note.. you might want to review your recruitment policy. the quantity over quality approach yields good numbers and blobpower but you get lots of unwanted material like spies, thieves and people with bad character. it's not advisable for a pirate corp imo because many ****ed off victims will try to get into it and cause damage.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:14:00 -
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Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 27/02/2006 12:13:47
 Originally by: Odda
I say: FREE speach ftw!
Quote:
Article 73 of the Iceland Constitution:
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and belief.
Everyone shall be free to express his thoughts, but shall also be liable to answer for them in court. The law may never provide for censorship or other similar limitations to freedom of expression.
Freedom of expression may only be restricted by law in the interests of public order or the security of the State, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights or reputation of others, if such restrictions are deemed necessary and in agreement with democratic traditions.
I don't think calling your corpmate a "dog ******" is in keeping with democratic traditions, nor in any way exempt from the clause about protection of morals. 
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
I don't think calling your corpmate a "dog ******" is in keeping with democratic traditions, nor in any way exempt from the clause about protection of morals.
 That may go in my bio
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Khalii
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan
If this is an opinion you believe in, you might be crazy and sociopathic. It is the other way around.
Not that we're prone to making ridiculously over-the-top pronouncements in THIS forum, gods no... 
Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan
Only a few consists of people who hate eachother, just as it is with any group of friends or a work place. People might have disputes, but they never resolve to verbal abuse unless they are socially incompetent.
That's very simplistic. You assume that people who're abusive to each other hate each other - at least, that's how I read what you wrote here. But amiable abuse is often a relatively everyday part of working relationships. I don't say it always occurs - it depends on the personalities involved. But contrary to what the strictly politically-correct lobby might say, it can actually serve a useful purpose, if tensions can be released through good-natured ribbing and banter, rather than everybody having to be on best, eggshells behaviour all the time. And there's a lot of different kinds of dispute. Where it's a heated, angry dispute, yes, you're right it's better to tackle it as civilly as possible, and those who're UNABLE to do so are open to criticism for being socially inept. But where it's a mild dispute between good friends or established colleagues, there're a lot of ways it might be approached.
As far as corp chat is concerned, what you've stated above is no less your opinion ("It is the other way around") than Alliaanna's statement that you responded to. Maybe some day CCP will produce statistics for this (here's hoping they don't bother), but until then we've all of us only got our own experience, and therefore our own opinion, to go on.
So is abuse in corp chat right? Sometimes it's okay, sometimes it's not. Like so many things in law, it depends on the intent behind it. If the intent is clearly to hurt or offend, then it's not right and should be dealt with by the corp, or petitioned if they won't. If someone doesn't like abusive language then a small corp should be able to discuss the problem and come to a compromise. A large corp should be responsible enough to automatically take account of the fact that some of its members might be sensitive to this sort of thing. |
zincol
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:26:00 -
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Your not Matt Helms alt are you?
We abuse him alot in corp chat...
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:30:00 -
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I know BOS corpchat is a never ending stream of abuse. It's what makes it so fun 
PS: F Ani!
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:38:00 -
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Lol no im not his alt
Im training Sp, doesn't that make me a main  
urr yeah but anyway I think everyones missing the point, I dont care if you think its right or wrong to speak to fellow corpies in an abusive mannor or not. Each to their own....
But as the system stands now it would be Oh so easy for a spy/alt to get many players into trouble.
Lets take a Friday night, most of us over the age of 16 (I know legal age is 18... but I also know how old those little brats are down my local!  ) are down the pub. Then a lot like me probably jump onto Eve for some drunken  . How many repeat warning would you need to get banned from game ?
* the number by the amount of times playing eve drunk and thats my calculation for how long you'd stay in the game
If you want to annoy an enemy this is a sure fire way of doing it.
Alliaanna
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:40:00 -
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What a bunch of crap. I agree that obscenities in generally unmoderated public channels like 'local' should be petitionable and get handled by GMs. But alliance chat? Or corp chat for that matter? Christ, if someone is really bothered by another member's behavior they should address their superiors who can discipline these people or simply remove them from their corp. If the superiors chose to ignore your request then I say you either put up, block the guy or simply leave the corp/alliance.. not get the damn GMs with their ban sticks involved. This is like calling the cops to come beat up your friends who are having a heated argument.
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Grimwalius d'Antan
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Posted - 2006.02.27 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Khalii
You assume that people who're abusive to each other hate each other - at least, that's how I read what you wrote here. But amiable abuse is often a relatively everyday part of working relationships.
I judge things by intention, not what it looks like out of context. If someone is using bad language directed at you with the intention to insult you, it is abuse in my opinion. If someone is using bad language towards you as part of a joke (that can be defended and identified as a joke), I don't consider it to be abuse.
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Jaddor
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Posted - 2006.02.27 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
But this is my point, How many Corp/Alliance channels are abuse free ? Id bet VERY few.
For those of you who thought the OP should leave their corp, I think the OP is in the perfect corp for them :)
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sableye
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Posted - 2006.02.27 15:05:00 -
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did'nt someone in atuk get petitoned and banned for stuff he said in corp chat, pretty low if you ask me to petition someone in your corp.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.02.27 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: TheKiller8
This is like calling the cops to come beat up your friends who are having a heated argument.
No. It isn't. Obscene language and abuse are ILLEGAL here. It's more like calling the cops because your friends are knifing each other in the street - something you'd be legally and morally *obliged* to do.
If your friends don't like it, they should learn to follow the game rules. Simple enough.
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Tadril
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Posted - 2006.03.29 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
all I can say is, you haven't seen anything until Tadril starts up in FIX alliance chat
that's NOT abuse . . . that is LOVE. and besides i do NOT abuse anyone (no name calling, etc), i just have a unique way of showing my love for alliance mates. i can't help it if i have unique sexual tastes.
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DenBrown
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Posted - 2006.10.08 09:52:00 -
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READ THIS!
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DenBrown
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Posted - 2006.10.08 09:56:00 -
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READ THIS!
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