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Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
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Posted - 2013.11.29 17:54:00 -
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I smell a troll... |
Noriko Mai
1078
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Posted - 2013.11.29 18:05:00 -
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They send The Spoon Killer. |
SpoonRECKLESS
Bumper R Us
101
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Posted - 2013.11.29 19:25:00 -
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CCP Stillman wrote:We ban all accounts owned by the same individual. How we identify that exact is a bit of some complicated science I won't go into. But it in-cooperates a number of factors. IP address is a part of that. But ultimately it's at the discretion of the individual GM to asses the best course of action, and they have this data available to them to make the call.
But we don't ban IP addresses outright per say. And we don't ban individual accounts only, unless the GM thinks its appropriate in the specific case.
Do you guys sit there all dressed up in wizard outfits and knight armour around a table of computers at a list of found botters, And say "WE CAST YOU OUT BE GONE FROM OUR LANDS FOUL BEAST"!!!
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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2013.11.29 20:18:00 -
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SpoonRECKLESS wrote:CCP Stillman wrote:We ban all accounts owned by the same individual. How we identify that exact is a bit of some complicated science I won't go into. But it in-cooperates a number of factors. IP address is a part of that. But ultimately it's at the discretion of the individual GM to asses the best course of action, and they have this data available to them to make the call.
But we don't ban IP addresses outright per say. And we don't ban individual accounts only, unless the GM thinks its appropriate in the specific case. Do you guys sit there all dressed up in wizard outfits and knight armour around a table of computers at a list of found botters, And say "WE CAST YOU OUT BE GONE FROM OUR LANDS FOUL BEAST"!!!
Nah, just as in "The noob comic" they wear white bedsheets and simply torch the players. (it's a fun series btw) |
Gerald Sphinx
The Scope
Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.11.30 00:24:00 -
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Expect all of them to get banned. CCP can trace multiple accounts even without the IP. All they need to do is look at your transaction records. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
1926
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Posted - 2013.11.30 02:11:00 -
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SpoonRECKLESS wrote:CCP Stillman wrote:We ban all accounts owned by the same individual. How we identify that exact is a bit of some complicated science I won't go into. But it in-cooperates a number of factors. IP address is a part of that. But ultimately it's at the discretion of the individual GM to asses the best course of action, and they have this data available to them to make the call.
But we don't ban IP addresses outright per say. And we don't ban individual accounts only, unless the GM thinks its appropriate in the specific case. Do you guys sit there all dressed up in wizard outfits and knight armour around a table of computers at a list of found botters, And say "WE CAST YOU OUT BE GONE FROM OUR LANDS FOUL BEAST"!!!
They didn't, but they will now
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Gerald Sphinx
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.30 21:05:00 -
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SpoonRECKLESS wrote:CCP Stillman wrote:We ban all accounts owned by the same individual. How we identify that exact is a bit of some complicated science I won't go into. But it in-cooperates a number of factors. IP address is a part of that. But ultimately it's at the discretion of the individual GM to asses the best course of action, and they have this data available to them to make the call.
But we don't ban IP addresses outright per say. And we don't ban individual accounts only, unless the GM thinks its appropriate in the specific case. Do you guys sit there all dressed up in wizard outfits and knight armour around a table of computers at a list of found botters, And say "WE CAST YOU OUT BE GONE FROM OUR LANDS FOUL BEAST"!!!
They're vikings. They hold up their swords and scream in honor of Thor. The more bots they ban, the more pleased the God of Thunder becomes and the more likely they join him in Valhalla. |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
368
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Posted - 2013.11.30 21:25:00 -
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Banning anything based on IP these days is pretty stupid unfortunatly due to increasing number of ISPs using stuff like carrier grade NAT and even without that in place my ISP often uses "transparent" proxy systems that in some cases will result in some services seeing dozens of people as being on the same IP. Not to mention stuff like halls of residence and so on. Annoys me a lot when people still base stuff around IPs when banning or blocking accounts or services even though unfortunatly there is often little else to go on. |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2013.11.30 21:38:00 -
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SpoonRECKLESS wrote:CCP Stillman wrote:We ban all accounts owned by the same individual. How we identify that exact is a bit of some complicated science I won't go into. But it in-cooperates a number of factors. IP address is a part of that. But ultimately it's at the discretion of the individual GM to asses the best course of action, and they have this data available to them to make the call.
But we don't ban IP addresses outright per say. And we don't ban individual accounts only, unless the GM thinks its appropriate in the specific case. Do you guys sit there all dressed up in wizard outfits and knight armour around a table of computers at a list of found botters, And say "WE CAST YOU OUT BE GONE FROM OUR LANDS FOUL BEAST"!!!
Confirming I've actually seen them doing this. 
CCP Falcon -á || -á EVE Community Manager -á || -á EVE Illuminati
@CCP_Falcon -á || -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents |
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Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
709
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Posted - 2013.11.30 23:13:00 -
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You can ban them sure you can close there account sure. But a ip adress can be change a mac adress can not. But you plug a new device and the mac adress is change and 1 Phone call to your provider and your ip is change to. So there is no use to ban players for that however you can delay them and thats it. |
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Antihrist Pripravnik
Paravan Korporacija
140
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Posted - 2013.11.30 23:30:00 -
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Johan Civire wrote:You can ban them sure you can close there account sure. But a ip adress can be change a mac adress can not.
Ahm... http://www.wikihow.com/Change-a-Computer%27s-Mac-Address-in-Windows
In Linux it's even easier.
CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic   |
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
213
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Posted - 2013.12.01 09:31:00 -
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Johan Civire wrote:You can ban them sure you can close there account sure. But a ip adress can be change a mac adress can not. But you plug a new device and the mac adress is change and 1 Phone call to your provider and your ip is change to. So there is no use to ban players for that however you can delay them and thats it.
If you think that's all the information they use you underestimate them greatly! ;) |
Meilandra Vanderganken
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.12.01 11:10:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:SpoonRECKLESS wrote:CCP Stillman wrote:We ban all accounts owned by the same individual. How we identify that exact is a bit of some complicated science I won't go into. But it in-cooperates a number of factors. IP address is a part of that. But ultimately it's at the discretion of the individual GM to asses the best course of action, and they have this data available to them to make the call.
But we don't ban IP addresses outright per say. And we don't ban individual accounts only, unless the GM thinks its appropriate in the specific case. Do you guys sit there all dressed up in wizard outfits and knight armour around a table of computers at a list of found botters, And say "WE CAST YOU OUT BE GONE FROM OUR LANDS FOUL BEAST"!!! Confirming I've actually seen them doing this.
Oh mah gawd! Can we haz video footage of that plz?!?! |
To Be Me
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
58
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Posted - 2013.12.01 11:55:00 -
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You ALL of you are misunderstanding how botters work.
It DOESNT matter to get banned
It DOESNT matter to be IP banned or WHATEVER kind of ban
Just change IP and the computer "hardware signature" get a new account and in a week back to botting.
You DONT stop botters. Botters stop at their own will.
Now close useless thread ty |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
654
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Posted - 2013.12.01 12:43:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:
Indeed it is.
ifconfig eth0 hw ether 666666666666
As root/superuser.
German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
Sevendeadly Sins
Meatshield Bastards
The Bastards.
31
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Posted - 2013.12.01 12:46:00 -
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l0rd carlos wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote: Indeed it is. ifconfig eth0 hw ether 666666666666 As root/superuser.
Eyyyy carlos, did you enjoy the RR Punishers?  |
David Laurentson
Laurentson INC
StructureDamage
82
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Posted - 2013.12.01 13:22:00 -
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Johan Civire wrote:You can ban them sure you can close there account sure. But a ip adress can be change a mac adress can not. But you plug a new device and the mac adress is change and 1 Phone call to your provider and your ip is change to. So there is no use to ban players for that however you can delay them and thats it.
In the US and the UK, and probably a fair few other places, turning your modem off for a minute is enough to change your IP address.
IP bans are essentially worthless, because there aren't enough IP addresses to give everyone their own anymore. This is why we need IPv6: IP bans that stick! :p |
Decian Cor
Disconnected.
58
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Posted - 2013.12.01 13:27:00 -
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Posting in a stealth "what can i get away with?" thread.
Unfiltered for the masses.
Forum Posting - Basic
Common Sense Level - III Grammar Level - III Reading Comprehension - III Facetiousness - III Skin Level- V Trolling Level - V |
Anya Klibor
Error-404
Cup Of ConKrete.
543
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Posted - 2013.12.01 17:47:00 -
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If you are permanently banned from the game, under to EULA you aren't allowed to have another account. If they find out you do, they can ban it immediately without recourse for you. There was actually a case about this a few years back where a guy had been permabanned in...WoW, I think. He had a second account going, paid a yearlong subscription and the next day was banned because of this issue. He tried to sue saying that he'd been robbed by Blizzard since they banned him a day after he'd paid. He lost because of the EULA stipulations. |
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