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Power of Trollface
Unrelenting Wanderers
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:23:00 -
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Hi.
Out of curiosity, if you get caught botting, is it only the botting account (assuming no RMT) that gets banned?
Or is it all of the accounts that you own/your IP? |
Arisidana
Amadari Traders
1
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:26:00 -
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Power of Trollface wrote:Hi.
Out of curiosity, if you get caught botting, is it only the botting account (assuming no RMT) that gets banned?
Or is it all of the accounts that you own/your IP?
All of them, it's the only way to be sure... |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
10160
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:26:00 -
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Probably depends on the case at hand, sometimes major ban on IP, system fingerprint, sometimes not. I'd say there's probably no way of knowing exactly what kind of spread your punishment will have - also with things in mind so they don't ban an entire university or the likes.
/c
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
2727
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:26:00 -
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Assume all. Don't bot.
Fight the bots and bot aspirants!
www.minerbumping.com
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
2022
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:26:00 -
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Petition a GM about it.
Oh god. |
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:28:00 -
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Bot aspirant? How does one have ambitions to become a computer program? |
Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
2022
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:30:00 -
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Smohq Anmirorz wrote:Bot aspirant? How does one have ambitions to become a computer program?
Who knows what goes on the the heads of miners?
Oh god. |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
2727
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:33:00 -
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Power of Trollface wrote:Hi.
Out of curiosity, if you get caught botting, is it only the botting account (assuming no RMT) that gets banned?
Or is it all of the accounts that you own/your IP?
Just to clarify, I have never used bots or macros in EVE Online, and I probably never will unless almost everyone does it and it is required to stay competitive (which hopefully never happens).
So you are saying you would break the rules of the game if others did so?
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Power of Trollface
Unrelenting Wanderers
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:34:00 -
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If almost everyone else in the game botted, and the only way to make a reasonable amount of ISK was botting, I would do so.
So yeah, lets hope CCP keep banning bots effectively :). |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
6494
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:38:00 -
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Power of Trollface wrote:Just to clarify, I have never used bots or macros in EVE Online, and I probably never will unless almost everyone does it and it is required to stay competitive (which hopefully never happens).
Nice disclaimer.
That's not going to stop them checking up on you now.
EVE Online - An Unstable Game |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
6494
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:39:00 -
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If everyone else in the game botted and the only way to make a reasonable amount of ISK was botting, I'd have stopped playing a long time ago...
EVE Online - An Unstable Game |
Power of Trollface
Unrelenting Wanderers
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:42:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Power of Trollface wrote:Just to clarify, I have never used bots or macros in EVE Online, and I probably never will unless almost everyone does it and it is required to stay competitive (which hopefully never happens). Nice disclaimer. That's not going to stop them checking up on you now.
HAHA
If I was serious about botting I wouldn't have made the thread ^^ |
Dr0000 Maulerant
Union Nanide and Tooling
87
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:56:00 -
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No you see, when EVERYONE starts botting you just sell a plex for 5 billion ISK.
And then you do whatever you want.
God I need to learn chinese....
Tell me again about how every playstyle you dont engage in "doesn't require any effort" and everyone who does it needs to die in a fire. Be sure to mention about how you tried it once but it was too easy/boring/ethnic-homophobic slur.-á |
Santa Spirit
Christmas Spirit and Goodwill Toward Man
189
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Posted - 2013.11.29 06:20:00 -
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ibtl
and if it isn't "all" it should be
just saying
On Occasion, I must apologize for the things I say because they sometimes make me sound as though I have a clue.
Please feel free to join in on the fun Dec 14th. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3918380 (2013) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=183205 (2012) |
GreenSeed
758
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Posted - 2013.11.29 06:48:00 -
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i would go for a preemptive ban on this one. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3352
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Posted - 2013.11.29 06:49:00 -
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It's the same as forum bans. No teeth.
Ban the character and an alt is posting twenty minutes later with nearly the same name. CCP doesn't seem to care that much about these things.
Bot bans are the same. Traditionally you really need to push it to get a perma-ban. It's usually a temp ban of a few days and then they're right back at it again.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
handige harrie
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
136
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:36:00 -
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Power of Trollface wrote:
and I probably never will unless almost everyone does it and it is required to stay competitive (which hopefully never happens).
Look, it's a sheeple
Baddest poster ever |
Chance Harper
Northen Star Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.29 08:23:00 -
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Power of Trollface wrote:Hi.
Out of curiosity, if you get caught botting, is it only the botting account (assuming no RMT) that gets banned?
Or is it all of the accounts that you own/your IP?
Just to clarify, I have never used bots or macros in EVE Online, and I probably never will unless almost everyone does it and it is required to stay competitive (which hopefully never happens).
An IP ban makes no sense, since in most countries in Europe you have a dynamic IP. Everytime your Router/Modem connects to the Internet, you get a new IP Adress. |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation
Fatal Ascension
610
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Posted - 2013.11.29 08:41:00 -
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There is an escalation system as you all knowGǪ However there is one last stage that isnGÇÖt documented...
CCP have a special team made up of very large Vikings in suits, of the like that only ever smile unless they're repeatedly griefing and taunting high sec miners.
They come round your house and have a pointed talk to you about what a bad person you have been, and give a unique demonstration on some of the very surprising things you can do with a mouse and keyboard...
Unsurprising to say there are very few repeat offenders after one of these visits.
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
861
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Posted - 2013.11.29 08:59:00 -
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Bannin IP is nonsense. the majority of the internet population in world does not have a fixed IP.
That would be an extremely dumb movement.
"If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
654
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Posted - 2013.11.29 09:05:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Bannin IP is nonsense. the majority of the internet population in world does not have a fixed IP.
That would be an extremely dumb movement.
No, he ask if they ban every account that is logged in from the same IP at that time. And not if they Blacklist a single IP forever.
AFAIK they try to ban every account. Not sure though. Also if you don't RMT you get a 30 day ban the first time, no?
German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.11.29 10:42:00 -
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Power of Trollface wrote:Hi.
Out of curiosity, if you get caught botting, is it only the botting account (assuming no RMT) that gets banned?
Or is it all of the accounts that you own/your IP?
Just to clarify, I have never used bots or macros in EVE Online, and I probably never will unless almost everyone does it and it is required to stay competitive (which hopefully never happens).
CCP ban the player.
1 Kings 12:11
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WASPY69
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.29 11:22:00 -
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Power of Trollface wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Power of Trollface wrote:Just to clarify, I have never used bots or macros in EVE Online, and I probably never will unless almost everyone does it and it is required to stay competitive (which hopefully never happens). Nice disclaimer. That's not going to stop them checking up on you now. HAHA If I was serious about botting I wouldn't have made the thread ^^ And I agree, it would be really terrible for the game if this was the case. I might quit playing too.
Noticed you have no likes. Here, have your very first like! yay!
(not that i actually like anything said in previous posts) |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics
CODE.
892
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Posted - 2013.11.29 11:36:00 -
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I'm likely wrong, but I seem to remember it being mentioned awhile back that CCP build a system ID out of not-easily replaced hardware ID codes, and they issue bans and such using that.
Along with that, every MMOG type game I know bans the person, not the character/account. Be that as it may for actual enforcement, but...
The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Pew Terror
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
30
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Posted - 2013.11.29 16:46:00 -
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Power of Trollface wrote:Hi.
Out of curiosity, if you get caught botting, is it only the botting account (assuming no RMT) that gets banned?
Or is it all of the accounts that you own/your IP?
Just to clarify, I have never used bots or macros in EVE Online, and I probably never will unless almost everyone does it and it is required to stay competitive (which hopefully never happens).
LEMMINGALERT! |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2013.11.29 16:50:00 -
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Power of Trollface wrote:Out of curiosity 
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Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
Dangirdas Bachir
Direct Support Initiative
679
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Posted - 2013.11.29 16:56:00 -
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Then death for multiboxers as well?
EVE EVE STARGALACTIC CITY B I T C H |
Antihrist Pripravnik
Paravan Korporacija
138
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Posted - 2013.11.29 17:17:00 -
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Power of Trollface wrote:Hi.
Out of curiosity, if you get caught botting, is it only the botting account (assuming no RMT) that gets banned?
Or is it all of the accounts that you own/your IP?
Just to clarify, I have never used bots or macros in EVE Online, and I probably never will unless almost everyone does it and it is required to stay competitive (which hopefully never happens).
I can tell you only how I'd do it. I don't know how CCP does it.
Some IPs that are proven to present a constant threat should be banned. If a violation is coming from the same IP multiple times, it means either that it's a proxy or a static IP of a bot owner.
You can't simply ban an IP the first time it makes a violation, because many players have dynamic IPs at their home.
My IP, for example, varies frequently and I must almost always type my character name when I log in to the forums. This is because my ISP is the biggest ISP in my country (practically a monopoly) and my IP and GeoLocation varies significantly. Sometimes my GeoLocation shows that I'm in the totally opposite part of the country (NOT a good thing when I have to test some GeoLocation functionality as a web developer  ).
As for "using macros when almost everyone does it" part: I'd rather leave the game if that happens. What's the point of playing if you have to cheat in order to play?
CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic   |
Singoth
Angels of Blood and Fury
Synthetic Systems
239
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Posted - 2013.11.29 17:34:00 -
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They send russian mercenary assassins to your house to hit you with super-advanced mining spoons.
Less yappin', more zappin'! |
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CCP Stillman
C C P
C C P Alliance
680
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Posted - 2013.11.29 17:39:00 -
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We ban all accounts owned by the same individual. How we identify that exact is a bit of some complicated science I won't go into. But it in-cooperates a number of factors. IP address is a part of that. But ultimately it's at the discretion of the individual GM to asses the best course of action, and they have this data available to them to make the call.
But we don't ban IP addresses outright per say. And we don't ban individual accounts only, unless the GM thinks its appropriate in the specific case.
Just a random dude in Team Security. |
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