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Dorogan Multikill
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Posted - 2006.02.28 08:47:00 -
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I heard somewhere that stealth bombers where gonna get a fix, concerning the ability to warp while cloaked...is this true or is it just another eve-rumor ?
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Mephysto
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Posted - 2006.02.28 09:17:00 -
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Stealth bombers are not broken, so therefore this cant be fixed  So yes, its another baseless rumour
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2006.02.28 14:15:00 -
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Imo, Cov ops Bombers should be able to warp cloaked.
So they can move around like Actual RL stealth Bombers and sneak in and out of enemy space acting as a Strategic Attack bomber, [I.E attacking unprotected convoys and running away,]
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Mephysto
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Posted - 2006.02.28 14:57:00 -
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That may be your opinion, but at the present time, that is not the way they are designed.
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Audri Fisher
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Posted - 2006.03.02 23:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Mephysto
That may be your opinion, but at the present time, that is not the way they are designed.
may I ask then what they are designed for?
I am not trying to be sarcastic, but it seems to me that that is the only thing they can really do, they can't fight a BS, even in a wolfpack, if even one gets waxed, that's a lot of isk down the drain, and going after frigs with cruises?
It just seems to me that that about the only thing they can do is go after merchant shipping, although they do do that excedingly well....
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Will Mer
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Posted - 2006.03.02 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: Mephysto
That may be your opinion, but at the present time, that is not the way they are designed.
may I ask then what they are designed for?
I am not trying to be sarcastic, but it seems to me that that is the only thing they can really do, they can't fight a BS, even in a wolfpack, if even one gets waxed, that's a lot of isk down the drain, and going after frigs with cruises?
It just seems to me that that about the only thing they can do is go after merchant shipping, although they do do that excedingly well....
I real stealth bomber in real life if spotted goes down quick. The rely on not being detected. You warp in as soon as you do you cloak.
As soon as you decloak you can fire. in other ships you get a delay.
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Isabella Inari
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Posted - 2006.03.03 05:25:00 -
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No to drag this offtopic, if the Devs decide not to give them cloaked warp capability, at least allow cloaked units to dissapear from Local. It really does reduce their effectiveness for surprise blows.
Please?  ?
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DeckardIRL
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Posted - 2006.03.03 20:31:00 -
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Stealth Bombers are a waste of time... cant use covertops cloak... cant fire cloaked.... cant warp cloaked.....
I have 2 Nemesis in my hangar also... Helios is great for scouting etc but the stealth bombers were incorrectly nerfed with rmr patch. If they cant be truly stealthy then what is the point.... devs got it way wrong when they nerfed them... because ppl where whinging as usual, how about getting things fixed instead of making an entire ship class a white elephant.....
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.03.03 20:39:00 -
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The stealth bombers are VERY useful! You guys just havn't used them enough to figure out how its done. Yes you cant warp while cloaked... so what? stay at gate cloaked for 10minutes and people will forget your even there. When the area clears up anything not on insta jump you can decloak and shoot. You will of course have touble hitting a frigate or shuttle but anything else you should do massive damage to.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2006.03.03 23:38:00 -
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Not to mention they're great as part of at attack squad. You get most of the stealthy benefits of a covops ship, coupled with a decent long-range attack.
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Morhon
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Posted - 2006.03.04 00:11:00 -
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The Stealth was useless before RMR but now I think it's pretty good tbh.
Would be wonderful if it could warp cloaked, but I can't see it happening really. It would make them a little bit too good me thinks. Some poor guy in a ship surounded by 20 of them without knowing and them all uncloaking, firing and webbing in one second. Nasty!
I would prefer it if they could cloak while being targeted (not locked but being targeted)Atleast that way people know they are there and have some sort of chance to escape (if ganked) or ram out of cloak.
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Shannon Casull
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Posted - 2006.03.04 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Morhon
I would prefer it if they could cloak while being targeted (not locked but being targeted)Atleast that way people know they are there and have some sort of chance to escape (if ganked) or ram out of cloak.
I think stealths can cloak while being targetted IIRC. So long as the lock isn't there, you can vanish. And with sensor boosters, most ships can't lock you in that 4-5 second window before you vanish again.
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Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2006.03.04 01:04:00 -
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Stealth bombers are broken and useless? Someone should have told me that before I went out and got 80 kills with my Manticore!
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BrainAche3
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Posted - 2006.03.05 15:17:00 -
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Manticores need a little more cap and power, even with named cruise launchers I still have to fit aux power cores, which defeats using a plate and small rep if u have all mids filled with 2 sensor booster 2, web / warp scram and tracking distrupters.
on big systems it takes like 3 or 4 jumps to cross the system
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Beowulf Scheafer
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Beowulf Scheafer on 05/03/2006 21:32:30
Originally by: mirel yirrin
Imo, Cov ops Bombers should be able to warp cloaked.
So they can move around like Actual RL stealth Bombers and sneak in and out of enemy space acting as a Strategic Attack bomber, [I.E attacking unprotected convoys and running away,]
no, they shouldn't.
point 1 is, giving a bomber the ability to fit a cov ops cloak will completly kill the usage of a real cov ops frig. you will always choose the (heavy) armed bomber instead.
point 2 is just that they would be too strong....
tons of bomberganksquads would roaming around, as they would have the big advantage of choosing their opponents everywhere, sneak at it and get a nearly 100% chance to escape in 1 piece. i would fly such a ship immidiatly and i don't think i would change that alot.
ductoris,i did twice now since this is the third time my sig was deleted. i have no idea why tbh. now whats wrong with it?- beo
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Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: BrainAche3
Manticores need a little more cap and power, even with named cruise launchers I still have to fit aux power cores, which defeats using a plate and small rep if u have all mids filled with 2 sensor booster 2, web / warp scram and tracking distrupters.
on big systems it takes like 3 or 4 jumps to cross the system
They're fine. With covert ops 5 and advanced weapon upgrades 5, you can fit 3 cruise, a cloak, and 6 low/mid items that each use 1 grid each. If you want to solve the power problem, put in a micro aux power core and a small capacitor battery II in place of a low and mid item. With energy management 5 and warp drive operation 5, you have a much easier time warping around.
They're not easy to fly properly, but they're so awesome when you take the time.
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Dimitrius Zabelle
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Posted - 2006.03.06 02:37:00 -
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There is nothing wrong with stealth bombers as they are, The idea is you can decloak, fire and then cloak, all before any ship larger than a frigate can lock onto you. Then you repeat this until the enemy goes boom.
They are fine as they are.. Making them able to warp while cloaked will cause them to be ridiculusly overpowered.
I mean what next? Stealth warp scramblers? 
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.03.06 11:48:00 -
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I agree they're fine but I think the nemesis deserves looking at.
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ArchenTheGreat
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Posted - 2006.03.06 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Mephysto
Stealth bombers are not broken, so therefore this cant be fixed So yes, its another baseless rumour
SB are good but Nemesis needs more grid. You can't fit 2 launchers, cloak and 2 hybrid guns on it without using power mod. Basically you can't fit this ship according to it's bonus without MAPC. Give it some more grid and it would be on par with other bombers.
Oh, and Manticore is OK with low cap. It balances it with additional launcher.
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DenBrown
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Posted - 2006.10.08 09:59:00 -
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Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.08 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Mephysto
That may be your opinion, but at the present time, that is not the way they are designed.
I guess its designed to be an expensive toy for rich boys. 
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