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Tippia
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:08:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Right. So you're saying an employer will advertise a job with a different rate of pay depending on whether the applicant is male or female. Can't say I've witnessed this. Right. So you're saying that you aren't familiar with how unequal pay plays out in practice. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:22:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:I'm saying that in the Western world, anyone who completes their education, leaves school and gets a career which they work hard at for 20 years will be earning the same salary regardless of their race or gender. You're pretty much completely incorrect on both those points. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:43:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Compelling argument. Certainly more than yours. But if you want to dig up statistics that show every report on the subject matter published in the last decade to be wrong, or that the last 10GÇô20% have really been slam shut in less than a year, then please do so.
Quote: From your description, I could only guess the reason this discrimination exists is because women in positions such as yours aren't aware of their rights and are not pursuing legal action when their rights have been violated. In your case, where you claim to have found evidence, I certainly hope you sought legal advice to help prevent this from happening to others. So, again, what you're saying is that you aren't familiar with how unequal pay plays out in practice. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:11:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Is this a 10-20% gap in specific jobs where males and females are equally educated, have equal experience and working equal hours, or is this gap just a general statistic about average male wages vs average female wages? For most, it's just he former and then there are structural inequalities on top of that. For a select few, it's a combination of both. Either way, the myth is itself a myth, probably born out of people believing that it's just a matter of choice.
If I wanted to talk about averages, I would have said 20GÇô40% insteadGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:14:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:I'm not going to deny that discrimination exists. Of course it does and it always will, but laws are in place to prevent that. If those laws aren't doing what they're meant to do, we need to assess why. You say it's very difficult to prove and I believe you're right about that, so it would seem the problem lies with the courts and the methods with which the laws are enforced. It also indicates that perhaps people need to be more aware of what their rights are and when they are being violated.
GǪand what you're effectively saying GÇö GÇ£it doesn't exist because [laws]GÇ¥ GÇö is why I'm jumping to the conclusion that you're not familiar with how it plays out in practice. Dismissing the facts as myth because those facts shouldn't exist is pretty na+»ve.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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