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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.02 06:32:00 -
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Edited by: ToxicFire on 02/03/2006 06:34:02
I'll settle this having done ore map I seen plain and clear why ice's are set out how they are.. frankly cus your whinin bout not been able to get the right ice for your dread is pointless it shows that you just trained for a dread based on stats alone not thinking about where you are what resources would be available. Oh and the ices aren't actually racial there pirate related. So your argument about 0.0 not been empire falls flat on its face. Plus ice is created by natural phenomina if you stick to the ingame thinking, so its a certain set of phenomina that produce the unique variations in ice thats gurista's based or serpentis based. Simply people are gettin lazy the game isn't about hanging the resources to you on a plate, its about having to go get what you want when you want and if that means huge ammount of jumps or fighting through gate camps then thats what you have to do. That or use your brain and think right im in a gurista's region i better not buy stuff that requires blood/sansah ice.
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.02 08:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
well tbh something has to be changed, ccp should reintroduce gas clouds as dread fuel, ice wont cut it. i dont get why 0,0 pilots have to be dependent on empire when it comes to things like this, its stupid and does not really give an inititative to build a "real" 0,0 empire when you have to go to empire anyway...
Think u've got confused there there isn't a reliance on empire for ice its just that it appears that there there are ices which are unique to the four main races and those ices appear in various regions, there is a empire and a 0.0 version of each racial ice with the 0.0 one giving better yeild. appart from that all ice products (excluding the racial isotope) can be found in every ice roid there is in varying quantities with dark glitter been the best overall provider of these.
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.02 08:57:00 -
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Edited by: ToxicFire on 02/03/2006 08:58:13
Originally by: Wrayeth
Originally by: Kunming
So I really wanna know, what fuel does the Correct DreadÖ use?!
How about we put trit in 1 region, pyr in 1 region, zyd in another etc..? Those great traders and haulers of yours should carry everything across the universe, right? Hell no!! They all gonna get it to Jita and put it on market. I thought its is the resources we fighting over in 0.0, but apparently we have to buy the resources from empire to fight over 0.0, someone explain me that in detail pls and slowly
I say YES for all racial ice in 0.0, or change dreads to use liquid ozone.
QFT.
This is exactly what I was going to to be posting after I read the first page. I'm glad someone already beat me to it, since it saves me the work of trying to organize my thoughts in a manner that other people can understand. lol
Anyway, /signed for having all types of ice belts in all 0.0 regions.
This is gettin to the point its moronic, the point is that 0.0 resources aren't sposed to be everywhere so you have to go fight to get them. YOU DON'T HAVE to goto empire to buy them if you don't want to just don't use ships/pos's that require that ice and its products. This entire thread is about a couple of guys whineing about the fact they've trained for the wrong type of dread for the region there in. Not wether ice is balanced or where they should be in 0.0 just some lazy guy that can be bothered to fight for a resource. How about we just move arknor and mercoxit into jita and leave it at that.
And tbh I havent seen a major 0.0 alliance in support of this idea yet. Heck even BoB appears to be against it, and there the people likely to be in the know.
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.02 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
i'm a caldari specialist, and if i wanted a capital ship, itd be caldari. does that mean i should only ever live and fight in regions with white glaze, because otherwise, my costs and labour amounts go through the roof. the labour amounts are at the expense of FUN as well.
changes to the gaming experience are all about making the game more fun for everyone, at base level. and who does this make the game less fun for? i can imagine it would make it more fun for a lot of people
Simply yes you should have to work hard for some of the bigger things in the game. Otherwise ISD may aswell turn on god mode, insta skill train and infinite isk and seed all the markets with everything and leave us too it.
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.02 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: ToxicFire on 02/03/2006 20:59:08
Double Post due to lag
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.06 11:53:00 -
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Can we have dev or visual proof on this please
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.07 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sto'ka
Originally by: Ogrim Velothi
So until we start using some kind of huge belt terraformaion project it makes no sense to have 2 different species of ice in the same system.
Didnt read the whole thread but there are systems with 2 different types of Ice. If i remember correct then Alachene is one of those systems.
Granted my memmory didnt fail me on this part it is a valid question to ask for multiple types of Ice in 0.0 systems
Since it was Oveur himself who once said: Hey, why would we want to run around in stations ? You cant do anything there. We want to BLOW stuff up!!
Making the logistics easier and the diversity of battlegroups etc larger out there could very well benefit Oveurs goal :)
That system has two different types of ice but not two different racial ice types
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.04.11 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Naverin
So there i was thinking.. Wouldnt it be nice if Dreads didnt use "Racial isotopes" and instead used liquid Ozone or heavy o2.. This way you can get it at any region of space.. and it levels the playing field as far as Every region has veldspar .. this way every region has ice that can yield fuel..
common product.. and therefor should not be gaming changing
Sigh apart from bumping your thread again and at this point wrangler should be locking it, every ship in eve has a drive type this drive is race specific, therefore its fuel is race specific. end of discussion.
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