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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 09:54:00 -
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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 09:55:41
How can it be that SA is still alive after Molle announced its death?
And why are BoB sending everyone else except themselves to kill them? Has BoB lost its edge so it needs everyone else to do the dirty work for them?
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 10:01:00 -
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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 10:01:26
Its not a flame just an honest question to the apparent innefectivnes of BOB lately.
I mean BoB singlehandedly destroyed half of EVE and now they are struggling with an alliance that is so much weaker than them.
Sending your minions to do your dirty work doesnt seem like the BoB we all know... or is it the BoB we all know?
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 10:16:00 -
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How can it be flame bait when its a fact?
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 10:20:00 -
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Anyway it seems to me that they were caught completly off guard. They probably thought SA would back down and there would be no reason to fight them.
But still its been almost 3 weeks since the declaration of war and if they were serious about it the attacks should have started already.
Maybe holding 3 regions and attacking is putting a strain on BoB. Maybe its just too much for them so they are sitting back and letting others do it for them.
The question that everybody is wondering about is "Has BoB bitten of more than they can chew"?
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 10:25:00 -
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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 10:25:40
 Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 02/03/2006 10:21:28
Considering the state of SA currently it's nothing that concerns us at all.
If they were a direct threat to us or our allies then we might speed up our plans but SA are quite low on the threat scale currently.
We will not be moving to purple alert for quite some time.
dbp
I dont know but this sounds to me like backing out. Im not flaming its just has that backpeddaling approach. Youre announcments and general attitude on the forums has been much stronger than this.
Care to explain why this change of heart?
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 10:28:00 -
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Im not flaming and trolling Im asking legitimate questions. Its your prerogative not to answer them but dont hide behind accusations of trolling simply because the answers you have are not to your satisfaction.
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 10:48:00 -
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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 10:48:59
Im not saying Im omnipotent! Im just calling it as I see it and I dont see BoB doing much after the way they announced the doom of SA on the forums.
Are you delegating this doombringing or were you just joking?
EDIT: IF you dont backup your threats I fear that most of your minions might find another master.
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 10:50:00 -
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I hear that you bring 30 BS down to Stain and then leave in 10-15 min. That is not gonna kill an alliance, even I know that.
The question is can you actually kill them or are you making empty threats?
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 18:34:00 -
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I want to know because Im curios by nature.
These forums are meant as a discussion forum for corporations and alliances. This war affects a lot of people and since BOB are one of the premier alliances of EVE that affect alot of people naturally people will be curios about its actions.
People are wondering if BoB is what it used to be. Has the change from nomadic lifestyle to an alliance with space to defend made your alliance weaker?
Are you able to back up your threats on the forums with ingame action?
Because at the moment it seems to me that you are living on past glories and that affects everyone in the EVE galaxy because it will cause a power vacuume.
Because of this it might not be wise to declare alliances dead if you cant back it up with ingame action. It makes you look weak and if there is a weak spot in your armor these kind of actions just make it look all the bigger to all your enemys. And we all know you have a lot of those.
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 18:41:00 -
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I gave you my answers. Just because those answers are not to your liking doesnt mean that they arent answers.
But its rude to answer a question with a question anyway... unless you have something to hide of course.
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 18:57:18
I understand Romulus that it might not be fun to fight SA.
But after all the forum chest beating and declaring the impending doom of SA it seems like you guys are backpedalling. Well it seems that way to me at least.
If you never meant to kill them in the first place why place empty threats to begin with?
It began with "You will be wiped out" to end with "We have better things to do".
I dont know but if you make a threat carry it out because if you dont it makes you look weak. BoB control half of the south through your image of tough fighters that back down to nobody. But this will look as though you are scared of SA and are backing out.
How long will it go before another alliance stands up and confronts you after seeing SA do it? You should make an example out of SA by crushing them. If you dont the seeds of discord will be planted and you might have a bigger problem than just SA standing up to you.
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 19:02:40
Well thats the whole point Im trying to make.
Its hard for SA to attack you when you have sent all your minions to attack them. But even if SA die it will be the minions who deal the finishing blow not BoB.
If you wanted SA to attack you you would call off your grunts and let SA and BOB duke it out.
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Posted - 2006.03.02 19:08:00 -
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So when you placed the threats you meant to carry them out but you dont mean to carry them out now?
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Posted - 2006.03.02 19:10:00 -
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Yeah TWD I agree that its easier for SA because of NPC stations. But still its a logistical nightmare moving your ships and equipment to a staging point throught what is completly hostile space to SA.
It just looks like you are burying them underneath tons of enemies so they cant attack you and you are "waiting" for a right time to attack them.
Have I got the last part right?
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 19:12:00 -
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When I said minions I didnt mean BoB I meant the other alliances attacking SA.
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Vitoris
So when you placed the threats you meant to carry them out but you dont mean to carry them out now?
OMG
THE PEBBLE HAS DROPPED!
LOOK AT THE SLOW COGS TURNING!
congrats you have just graduated from not having a clue to maybe having the slightest glimmer of a clue.
Congrats.
dbp
So you place threats whenever you want and you may or may not carry them out?
How can people take you seriously? A respectable alliance puts its actions where its mouth is. If you make threats you have no plans of making true in the future they will fall on deaf ears or be laughed at.
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 19:24:00 -
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Thank you for the well thought out reply Blacklight.
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.02 20:14:00 -
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Just because you are not wondering does not mean no one else is.
To adress your second point. I dont think BoB are incapable of defending their region. I only think that they cant make true their threats on their own.
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Vitoris
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Posted - 2006.03.03 00:18:00 -
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Here is what I dont get.
BoB are saying that they didnt get involved when G invaded Stain because SA didnt ask for help right? But why did you get involved during the FIX-SA war if no one asked you to? At least BoB are saying that FIX didnt ask them to get involved.
Are you using the Southern Stability as an excuse to promote your own interest or are you truly upholding the ideal of it? And if you are shouldnt you have helped Stain no matter if they were asking for help or not?
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