This sounds to me like an excellent plan, I suggest you put it in practice.

I have seen a little bit of misinformation in this thread, so allow me to clear things up. First, almost nobody ninja salvages anymore, because T1 salvage is worth little to nothing. Nevertheless, mission invasion is rampant in the major hubs. The objective for some is to steal the loot, either by looting wrecks or killing mobile tractor units. Many ninjas just leave it at this. They will be suspect flagged when they land in your mission, or soon after, and so they are valid targets. They count on the fact that the average MR is too cowardly a beast to actually try anything, and they will run away if aggressed.

The other sort of ninja is looking to provoke the MR to shoot, and when you do so, he will kill you. When you shoot at him, he gets a 5 minute, not 15 minute (grrr Crimewatch) limited engagement flag, during which he can legally engage you. There are all sorts of evil tricks the well prepared ninja can use to make the most of this, and the end result will certainly be the MR paying a ransom or losing his fancy battleship to a T1 frigate or cruiser.

People who are good at this make literally billions of isk per day at it, and have way more fun than people shooting red crosses, so don't pity the ninja.

Oh, and if you are running level 4s, you don't qualify as a new player, so don't expect the ninja to pity you, either.

Typical speak of a clueless mission runner

That module is no match if someone comes under your guns / outruns your missiles and just wears you down / call in friends.

That's one way I'd overcome your tank. Others will have different ideas. The main thing is, however, that because you are presumably mission fit, I can escape the engagement and you cannot.

Not kill rights. Kill rights are something totally different.

They gain a limited engagement flag on you for the next 15 minutes.

So next time, take that info into account and dont be surprised when suddenly you find yourself without a mission ship because you got baited into getting a flag hat made you a valid target for them.

Typical speak of a clueless mission runner

That module is no match if someone comes under your guns / outruns your missiles and just wears you down / call in friends.

Unless he's been reading your posts and puts a point on his ishtar.

wait a bit... althought i consider that my thread is succesfull ( make people post ideas , thinking and some of them become aggresive ) i dont want to make "enemies" or insult people with this....
it was a small guide to show that even a nub can think something that will help him make his life easier in here...

wait a bit... althought i consider that my thread is succesfull ( make people post ideas , thinking and some of them become aggresive ) i dont want to make "enemies" or insult people with this....
it was a small guide to show that even a nub can think something that will help him make his life easier in here...
the only thing that "disturb" me and thats why i start this plan of mine is that i always dont accept that a guy-gal simple because is more experienced than me thinking that he-she will do anything he-she wants at me... just this

Frankly, I think your balls are too large for you to have much of a career as a mission runner, OP. If you are having fun with it, then by all means, continue until it isn't fun for you anymore, but in the end I think you will find that missions are dull and repetetive, and suitable only for folks who are determined to play EVE as a single player game.

I get the sense that you would be better suited for a career that involves more aggressively going after other players, especially more experienced players. Maybe you should consider becoming a pirate, or (gasp!) a ninja.

easy i can think of myself being a tackler in a gang squad or pirate in 1-2 months... but ninja ??? nahhh

p.s. let this 'salvage' frigate try to penetrate my Pithum A-Type Medium Shield
anyway good game to all and cya in space

For example - My Curse/neuting Legion would love to have a word with your shield fit PVE ship....

so whats the problem if you actually managed to kill him while he steals from you, scoop the mobile unit ,loot cargo and dock to a station for 15 minutes?
prepare a drink and smoke a bit with the PLEASURE that you killed a 5 years old char...?
i bet the feeling will be in my memory for too long

I strongly recommend ninja-salvaging / looting as an excellent profession for new players.
In doing so, you will learn:

* How to use the directional scanner.
* How to probe down ships using combat probes.
* The importance of transversal velocity as you flit about the mission site, avoiding fire from rats as you loot and salvage.
* The sheer impotence of the flashy yellow box aka "Carebare Stare".
* How to punch above your weight as you take down battleships with battlecruisers / cruisers (or even frigs if you have support).
* How to predict and shoot into the "resist holes" of your target.
* How to counter active tanks.

I'm sure there's much more, but I think that's enough to give a new player a solid foundation in becoming a useful and versatile combat pilot! You'll also make a tidy sum of ISK as you go along

It's worth remembering that the limited engagement timer lasts 15 minutes and you can't shake the timer by losing ships or pods.

When did the Limited Engagement Timer change from being a five minute timer to a fifteen minute timer?

Actually, it was a five minute timer when Crimewatch was rolled out and hasn't changed yet. I think the confusion comes from the old pre-Crimewatch aggro timers, which I seem to remember having been 15 minutes. Suspect and criminal flags are both 15 minutes, LE is five.