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Jim Raynor	Posted - 2003.09.05 05:51:00 - [1] Edited by: Jim Raynor on 05/09/2003 05:52:15 ROF bonus on launchers only works for seige launchers? WTF. CPU on this ship sucks too, you run outta CPU so easy. Hmm.. does weapon upgrades lower the cpu on launchers? It should. ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2003.09.05 06:23:00 - [2] Oh, and why does this thing only move at 105m/s. It's the slowest ship in the game, wtf. =P Boost it to 115-120m/s. =] ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE
Dragon Emperor	Posted - 2003.09.05 07:27:00 - [3] but it makes sense, all bonus on bs only apply to bs size weapons
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2003.09.05 07:36:00 - [4] Heh, are seige launchers even on the live server? =/ ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE
Dragon Emperor	Posted - 2003.09.05 07:44:00 - [5] Quote: Heh, are seige launchers even on the live server? =/ i don't have one, but i saw somebody sold seige luncher on trade channel.
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2003.09.05 08:25:00 - [6] Raven could use another 50-75 CPU, considering other tier2 ships got more CPU. This ship has major CPU probs, considering it has a 10,000 powergrid, CPU really shouldn't be much of an issue with a caldari battleship. If you ask me. =] ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE
Quiz	Posted - 2003.09.05 08:29:00 - [7] I havent checked, but doesnt the Raven have 600 cpu? Only the scorpion has more in that case.
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2003.09.05 08:31:00 - [8] Edited by: Jim Raynor on 05/09/2003 08:42:19 Quote: I havent checked, but doesnt the Raven have 600 cpu? Only the scorpion has more in that case. Ya, it has 600 CPU. It's not enough though, I thought it would be enough, but it's not. I have electronics 4.. I couldn't mount six seige launchers and two neutron blasters on Chaos with it. I had the powergrid, but not the CPU.. I forget how short I was, but I could only activate 3 launchers, I imagine I was very short.. (cpu values on chaos is bugged atm). I'm glad the Raven got an extra low slot on Chaos but I can tell you this, it's 99% likely you will have to use it for a Photonic CPU. I know, a lot of ships have to use cpu upgrades, and those ships usually have 6+ low slots.. Raven has a very small powergrid.. very little to work with there.. so basically it's the only ship that will probably NEED a RCU (atleast if you want to use 425mm Railguns..)and a CPU module. Perhaps the Scorpion spoiled me but I found it odd for a Caldari ship requiring a CPU upgrade. :) ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE
Ulstan	Posted - 2003.09.05 12:06:00 - [9] The ROF bonus should apply to any missile launcher, IMO.
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2003.09.05 12:09:00 - [10] Quote: The ROF bonus should apply to any missile launcher, IMO. Yeah, it should. I was ****ed off when my xr-3200s still had a 11.45sec ROF. I figured it would be for all launchers myself.. Raven is a gimped ship as it is. =] ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE
Ana Khouri	Posted - 2003.09.05 12:12:00 - [11] Edited by: Ana Khouri on 05/09/2003 12:12:57 Well, you could say the same for all ship weapon boni, too. All BS have only a bonus on large weapons. Of cource, sieges are not freely available on tranq atm. But that isn't a unfixable problem I think hint TomB hint free speech not allowed here
Nerhtal Al'Thali	Posted - 2003.09.05 18:50:00 - [12] the bonus is fine if it only applies to siege launchers once the BP is available. Now cpu problems? im going to have to find out why - i would have also thought it would suffer as much as the other battleships with it having 2nd best cpu out of all teh battleships. "Game Experience And Dev Opinions May Change With The Time Of Day During Online Play" Oveur "First in, last out" Bridgeburner Motto
Raven DeBlade	Posted - 2003.09.05 22:56:00 - [13] Yes to fill the highslots you have to use "cruiser" weapons like Large Launchers etc so there is no point because CPU and Grid isnt even close enough to do this, you can fit something like 2 425 Rails and 3 Siege launchers and nothing else! feels great to have loads of high, med and low slots that cant be used. and if you fill them all with CPU enhancers & reactor controls etc you wount do any damage. So yes Caldari ships are good at EW but thats it "To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees" "Any statements made above this line are my persona"
Valeria	Posted - 2003.09.05 22:58:00 - [14] Siege launchers use up insane amounts of CPU. I could mount 6 but then i'd have no CPU left for any other vital modules. Since the only improvement on the module itself over cruiser launchers is doubled capacity, I don't think that much CPU use is neccesary. Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage.
Valeria	Posted - 2003.09.05 22:58:00 - [15] Edited by: Valeria on 05/09/2003 22:58:21 Spam? Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2003.09.06 00:00:00 - [16] Edited by: Luc Boye on 06/09/2003 00:14:34 I've found this siege launcher on Tranq., S-110 mk1, I dont use missiles but it looks kinda lame: capacity: 55 rof: 24 s cpu: 110 power: 1350 MW ok add skills its a bit better, but still? -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Ulstan	Posted - 2003.09.06 01:48:00 - [17] That is an insane amount of CPU and powergrid for something that is no faster, and no more damaging than the cruiser version. Either drastically reduce the costs, or make the ravens rof bonus apply to all launchers.
Karif	Posted - 2003.09.06 02:19:00 - [18] cpu: 110 Um. That is wacked. Should probably be half that. After all, the only thing a heavy/siege launcher can handle over and above the M-12 are Torps, so the rather steep CPU requirement on both could probably come down slightly. Does it really take that much CPU power to fire missiles slower? =============================== Deception + Information + Skill
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2003.09.06 04:47:00 - [19] ignore the 24sec rof, its the old value on Tranq for siege launchers, theyve been reduced to 16secs along with the medium launchers.. but yeah, the cpu usage on the siege launchers are insane.. its impossible to put 6 on a raven without using a photonic. Not only that, but i dont think weapon upgrades applies to launchers, which imo, should. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
Darkwolf	Posted - 2003.09.06 05:58:00 - [20] Quote: but yeah, the cpu usage on the siege launchers are insane.. its impossible to put 6 on a raven without using a photonic. Especially when you consider that, for me, a tachyon beam only uses 51 tf.
SS Vegito	Posted - 2003.09.06 08:08:00 - [21] The problem is siege launchers take a ton of cpu. I run outta cpu on my raven even without having them :( Also no weapons upgrades only works on turrets.That being fixes for launchers would help a good deal as well.
Sarin Deckerd	Posted - 2003.09.06 08:27:00 - [22] "but yeah, the cpu usage on the siege launchers are insane.. its impossible to put 6 on a raven without using a photonic." and the problem with having to use a cpu is? so it takes a slot, but isnt the variety of ship configs what makes the combat in eve so.....varied? What if a BS could easily use 6 heavy launchers, all loaded with Cruise missiles (yeah yeah I know that ppl say CM's are nefred)then all you med and low slots wud be full with other stuff. Im nit sure many cruisers like the moa for instance would last very long against a BS fireing a 6 volly shot of Cruise missiles. There has to be some strengths and weaknesses to having a BS or there would be no point in anyone having smaller ships!
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2003.09.06 08:33:00 - [23] Quote: and the problem with having to use a cpu is? so it takes a slot, but isnt the variety of ship configs what makes the combat in eve so.....varied? What if a BS could easily use 6 heavy launchers, all loaded with Cruise missiles (yeah yeah I know that ppl say CM's are nefred)then all you med and low slots wud be full with other stuff. Im nit sure many cruisers like the moa for instance would last very long against a BS fireing a 6 volly shot of Cruise missiles. There has to be some strengths and weaknesses to having a BS or there would be no point in anyone having smaller ships! Look at it this way. An Armageddon, despite it's big powercore, can't mount seven tachyons right? However, it CAN mount other large turrets, and still recieve its large laser bonus. Okay so obviously the Raven can't mount six seige launchers without huge CPU issues.. but where's the alternative? If you mount anything else you LOSE YOUR SHIPS BONUS. Raven needs to get a bonus to all launchers.. or the CPU on seige launchers should be lowered.. or launchers should be lowered via weapons upgrade skill. ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE
Iminay	Posted - 2003.09.06 08:55:00 - [24] Edited by: Iminay on 06/09/2003 08:55:28 Quote: What if a BS could easily use 6 heavy launchers, all loaded with Cruise missiles (yeah yeah I know that ppl say CM's are nefred)then all you med and low slots wud be full with other stuff. Im nit sure many cruisers like the moa for instance would last very long against a BS fireing a 6 volly shot of Cruise missiles. There has to be some strengths and weaknesses to having a BS or there would be no point in anyone having smaller ships! uhm BS are already fitted with 3-4 tachions they shoot smaller ships to bits with even more ease. Invalid point there. ____________________________________________________________ Subscription Status: Active Cancellation Pending Expires: 30. September 2003
Nephlite	Posted - 2003.09.06 14:43:00 - [25] cpu: 110 There is a double problem with Seige launchers, mainly with turrets you can alteast lower the CPU costs with the weapon upgrades skill. Its unfair to have such a high cpu cost for missles and no skill to lower it. Weapon upgrades should apply to launchers also. Finally the speed upgrade should apply to all missle launchers on a Raven, not just the large kind.
DREAMWORKS	Posted - 2003.09.06 15:33:00 - [26] Edited by: DREAMWORKS on 06/09/2003 15:36:55 Quote: Edited by: Jim Raynor on 05/09/2003 08:42:19 Quote: I havent checked, but doesnt the Raven have 600 cpu? Only the scorpion has more in that case. Ya, it has 600 CPU. It's not enough though, I thought it would be enough, but it's not. I have electronics 4.. I couldn't mount six seige launchers and two neutron blasters on Chaos with it. I had the powergrid, but not the CPU.. I forget how short I was, but I could only activate 3 launchers, I imagine I was very short.. (cpu values on chaos is bugged atm). I'm glad the Raven got an extra low slot on Chaos but I can tell you this, it's 99% likely you will have to use it for a Photonic CPU. I know, a lot of ships have to use cpu upgrades, and those ships usually have 6+ low slots.. Raven has a very small powergrid.. very little to work with there.. so basically it's the only ship that will probably NEED a RCU (atleast if you want to use 425mm Railguns..)and a CPU module. Perhaps the Scorpion spoiled me but I found it odd for a Caldari ship requiring a CPU upgrade. :) Little carebear post imho, since i dont use 8 tachyons on my apoc.. If you want to use the maximum ammount of heavy weapons ment for your ship, be prepared to leave some highslots blanc or fit some CPU enhancers. I did everything to enhance my cpu, since i had the same problem as you have: i couldnt get my 8 slots full, therefor i put time and efford to balance out my ship to get enough cpu to get all slots full. There are enough skills to raise cpu, or decrease weapon cpu need. Wish i knew about the cpu update on apoc, since i have 511 cpu used now, from the 562. Also having a bonus too all missle launchers is nonsence, do you see my apoc get a bonus to hmb or hmbp? - Oh and btw, dont think like i dont care about raven or scorp cuz i dont fly them... Im spending my skill time now on the skills to get them. IMHO their going to be the best pvp ships there are after the patch. __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
dalman	Posted - 2003.09.06 15:59:00 - [27] Quote: Little carebear post imho, since i dont use 8 tachyons on my apoc.. If you want to use the maximum ammount of heavy weapons ment for your ship, be prepared to leave some highslots blanc or fit some CPU enhancers. I did everything to enhance my cpu, since i had the same problem as you have: Also having a bonus too all missle launchers is nonsence, do you see my apoc get a bonus to hmb or hmbp? You're obviously missing the point. You can still mount Mega pulse, Mega Beam, Dual Heavy Pulse or Dual Heavy Beam and get your bonus. The Raven can't mount anything else than siege launcher to get the bonus. And obviously it can't fit 6 of them. And btw, it should be A-3 for frigates, M-12 for cruisers and H-50 for battleships, and the siege as an extra heavy launchers... So up the reqs on the other launchers and make the Raven bonus apply to heavy launchers as well. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30
Valeria	Posted - 2003.09.06 16:11:00 - [28] Quote: Little carebear post imho, since i dont use 8 tachyons on my apoc.. If you want to use the maximum ammount of heavy weapons ment for your ship, be prepared to leave some highslots blanc or fit some CPU enhancers. Except that while Tachyons do what, 3 times more damage and has twice the range of its medium counterpart, the only thing a siege launcher has is more capacity. That does not justify the huge CPU usage. Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage.
Tete	Posted - 2003.09.06 16:58:00 - [29] Now i dont play on test server, but i know on tranq i use a megathron and i sure as hell cant mount 7 Large guns + 1 missile launcher, far from that. Isnt kinda what you are trying to do on your Raven? Mount all high slots with Large classe guns? If so i dont see any problems with the current state. I would also like to add that ships sorta have specialities. Some are good for dam dealing, others better for tanking and caldari ships are good with EW. Cant ask to have a ship excellent at everything.
Jarjar	Posted - 2003.09.06 19:37:00 - [30] Edited by: Jarjar on 06/09/2003 19:38:47 7xIon Blaster Cannon I (2000 grid) 1xXR-3200 Missile Bay (60 grid) 1xRCU 1xPhotonic Engineering 4 / Electronics 4 No problems. Not my current setup, though. Grid usage: 'bout 14070 / 14520 on TQ.

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