You can do this so long as it is within 24 hours.

Somebody please move this to features and ideas.

Also you could have made the post more sexier by not putting anything what so ever to do with mining.

PS I hope you have a permit for that barge when its ready.

To learn that skill requires having already learned the following skills: Industry : Level 5.



so no, you can't

You can if the end of industry 5 finished within 24 hours.

Are we even playing the same game? No you can't.

I just tried it to double check.

"To learn that skill requires having already learned the following skills: Industry : Level 5."

That's the error message when you try to either inject or drag it into the queue.

You can do this so long as it is within 24 hours.

You can if the end of industry 5 finished within 24 hours.

You think urself lucky, there never used to be a skill q, people HAD to set an Alarm clock to change there skills around. Just put something else in to train first, and then come back to the skill you want when you can log in.

You can if the end of industry 5 finished within 24 hours.

confirming that baltec never reads the message he's replying to.

PS I hope you have a permit for that barge when its ready.

Mining is boring - we've established this. There is absolutely no need to constantly reiterate this fact. Mining is boring, that's why i have a "mining alt" and not a "mining main".

If you have nothing to say that might actually augment the content of the post in a positive way; write it down on bog roll and use it to wipe your hole.

ty :)

OK, I would like to augment the post in a positive way. This is a 'features and ideas' post and belongs over there.

You're welcome.

Been said. Millennia ago.

Thank you.

And yet you persist like this is where it belongs.

Well, your post starts politely enough, and you say: GÇ£I don't know where to put this so i'm putting it hereGÇ¥

Then, whenever someone writes something that is not in full support of your idea, you become abrasive and rude:

GÇ£There is absolutely no need to constantly reiterate this factGÇ¥

GÇ£write it down on bog roll and use it to wipe your hole.GÇ¥

GÇ£Been said. Millennia ago.GÇ¥

GÇ£one of those people with their mystical god-like powersGÇ¥

GÇ£My Little Pony been cancelled or something?GÇ¥

GÇ£Like a dog with a boneGÇ¥

GÇ£!!!!!1111!!!!1111!!!oneone!!!11!!"GÇ¥


So, you said you didnGÇÖt know where to put it. I have now told you where to put is, along with other people. So go post it there.

How about no?

Well that would lead me to believe that you knew it didn't belong here in the first place but would prefer that it was in general discussion. Otherwise, why would you not assent to such a reasonable request?

Because i already typed it, submitted it and read the replies.

Do it all again? Because you told me to? Let me think about that one...

Made me smile.

Learn to EVEMon

Honestly it's not difficult to plan a skill queue when you know what you want to do.

Here's a hint, always put in the skills you NEED to train at the front of the queue to meet any pre-requisites of skills further down the queue. ie you want to train Mining Barge, the first skills you train are the ones like Industry, Science, Mining, Mining Frigate, then you can move on to Astrogeology and Mining Barge - that way the pre-requisites are already trained before it's an issue.

Reading be hard yo.

Aww, I respected you until that comment...

On a side note, I too would love this feature. Though not for Mining Barge, because mining?

Once there was a man
who had a little too much time on his hands
he never stopped to think that he was getting older.
When his skillqueue came to an end
He tried to grasp for his last slot and pretend
That he could wish himself skills on a longer skillqueue

He said is this the return to Learning Skills?
The server's is dead, the PLEX is brown and the sky has claws
There's a wind-up man walking round and round
What once was a login is now an endless skillqueue

It didn't rhyme and it was out of context.

No one asked for a longer skill queue.

Are you for real?

Seriously, how much crack did you just take?

Not nearly enough, it appears.

As far as I understand things the OP want requirements to change from being the basis for injection to being the basis for training start.
In absolute I'd say why not ?
Seeing as a level 0 skill has not yet been learned at all, it would make sense that a skill can be pre-injected and pre-put into the skill queue, with an error message and lost training time if the requirements are not met.

But there would be other consequences, in a domino effect, in Eve there always is.

The issue is that having changed the skills there are people who are flying ships which do not have the requirements trained up, such as Command ship which require all the command skills to V. So the management of this would have to bear that in mind, will get messy...

great idea!

also I would like the option to star or highlight skills on my list that I need to train, preferably with some kind of numbering. Not talking about adding to queue beyond 24hr, just something to help me remember what I said to myself I should queue last time I logged in

I need Drones V to train Drone Interfacing.
I need Drone Interfacing V to train Fighters.
I need Fighters V to train Fighter Bombers.

I don't need any other drone skills and am on a Willpower/Perception remap as Drone Interfacing V, Fighters V and Fighter Bombers V take a while to train.

Fighters V will finish training in 12:20h, a time when I know I will not be at home to inject the Fighter Bombers skillbook,

Teach me how to EFT.

The obvious barrier is the book system as has been mentioned before. But personally, I don't see a problem with allowing the injection of books that you can't train

it would likely reduce the amount of skillbooks being carried in cargo, and therefore ganked, but I doubt many people buy skills too far ahead of time, and if they do, they probably keep them where they buy them

It doesnt make sense

You brains hardwiring configuration doesnt allow you to inject any skill which you do not meet the previous requirements


So this would be something non sensical to have. Doesnt fit into the lore.

a 'knocker up' had to come and rouse me .... proper 'ard.

+1 my opinion is that we should be able to inject skillbooks, and not carry them with us. Also que should be longer than 24h.

You think urself lucky, there never used to be a skill q, people HAD to set an Alarm clock to change there skills around. Just put something else in to train first, and then come back to the skill you want when you can log in.

Because we just got through the awesome change where the prerequisite test was performed on injection rather than training. This is what allowed them to do the whole tiercide and skill rebalance without screwing up what people could and could not train or fly.

The current rule is simple: if you have it injected, you can train it. It no longer matters what your other skills look like or if you've been mass-ganked back to 900k SP or if the DB forgot all numbers larger than 10 GÇö injected = trainable; checking for prereqs is a one-time thing and you've passed that test, it's done for good. If you want to be allowed to inject skills without being able to train them, they have to uproot that whole system and create something that is probably a lot less robust and elegant in its design.

Skill books are being carted around all the time, and reducing the reasons and opportunities to lose them is a bad thing.

It doesnt make sense
You brains hardwiring configuration doesnt allow you to inject any skill which you do not meet the previous requirements

So this would be something non sensical to have. Doesnt fit into the lore.

Well, fun fact is that EVE characters do not have brains as they are numbers in a database. Nonsensical to argue otherwise.

But try applying that logic on real life people for a moment and you will see something really silly. You wouldn't be allowed to consume knowledge (be taught / learn) if you do not fulfill the criteria that leads to that specific knowledge, i.e. high-level math before you learn programming.

The current design of learning skills in EVE is nothing but a level requirement of sorts.

I'd be okay with this as long as doing so forces you to complete the prerequisite - in other words injecting the dependent skill locks the prerequisite skill into the queue so you can't remove it or add any skills in front of it.