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Triakis Cadelanne Nova Tech Inc. 0	Posted - 2013.12.05 02:54:00 - [1] - Quote Hi, I'm looking for a ship able to run solo 0.0 Plex (ideally Guristas and Serpentis' ones). According to my skills this should be a Gallente / Amarr ship, tanking armor and using guns. I thought to bastion Marauder to achieve this, but it's kinda expansive fora ship that can't move most of the time. Any suggestion ? Fly safe o/
Abdiel Kavash Paladin Order Fidelas Constans 2135	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:01:00 - [2] - Quote Sentry Ishtar or Dominix. If you lack drone skills, train them anyway, they're useful for pretty much any ship.
Cyrus Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas 16	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:39:00 - [3] - Quote Mach and navy raven are two good choices. Shield tanks beat armor tanks for PVE. Better tank on shields and damage mods in the lows.
Abdiel Kavash Paladin Order Fidelas Constans 2136	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:44:00 - [4] - Quote Cyrus wrote: Mach and navy raven are two good choices. Shield tanks beat armor tanks for PVE. Better tank on shields and damage mods in the lows. Have you even read the OP?
Tauranon Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere 369	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:29:00 - [5] - Quote Triakis Cadelanne wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a ship able to run solo 0.0 Plex (ideally Guristas and Serpentis' ones). According to my skills this should be a Gallente / Amarr ship, tanking armor and using guns. I thought to bastion Marauder to achieve this, but it's kinda expansive fora ship that can't move most of the time. Any suggestion ? Fly safe o/ The proteus has some very lowslot biased subsystem options. ie 6-3-7 layouts, and given that its both got T2 resists and armor repair bonus, it will do all gurista encounters except the maze with. 1x corelum c-type medium armor repairer 1x kinetic armor hardener II 1x thermic armor hardener II +4 or 3 damage mods depending on your layout preferences. If you reach 4 damage mods in your fit, then the advantages for shield in PVE are minimal or none given you'll also have free mids for applied damage. if you are in motion on the AB it avoids tremendous amounts of damage. Living in gurista space I usually use it fit subbed 6-4-6 as a droneboat (due to wanting 2 omni IIs), and I only really need to refit extra tank (an extra kinetic hardener) for the maze where you are webbed down and shot with a citadel torp. Given how buffed med rails are now, there is no reason it won't work as a railboat. The proteus travel fit is much better than a marauder (covops / nullifier) and I just can't go past how I don't really need a scout for it and how much time it saves not waiting for minor things to clear ahead of you, like a 3 man camp.
Froggy Storm Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement 119	Posted - 2013.12.05 07:06:00 - [6] - Quote In guri space the drone boats are your best bet. This becomes especially true if you are dual boxing. If it is home space then go for the potato domi with alts. In plex runs it performs about the same as the ish with reduced total training time of drone and hacs. In hostile space def go for the ish. But that would be a shield fit so may not be ideal. Maybe try the new strati if you can afford it. I'd over tank it to start though since I've no experience with them. Then peel away tank for more damage as you settle into the different plex types. It even gets a scan bonus to help track them down ;)
Dato Koppla PillowFighters Inc Stealth Wear Inc. 393	Posted - 2013.12.05 12:07:00 - [7] - Quote Ishtar is pretty much the best for this. Stratios could work too I guess, but the Ishtar has very high native kinetic/thermal resists which makes it really easy to tank it and it has the sentry optimal+tracking bonus. Stratios is obviously if you plan to utilize the cloak.
Triakis Cadelanne Nova Tech Inc. 0	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:46:00 - [8] - Quote Thanks for your answers. From most of you drone boats are the best for this work (which it's supposed to be done in hostile space), anyway I wanted to train them soon. Btw, I've seen on EVElopedia that some of high ends combat plexs are haunted by neut towers, which clearly shut down any active tank. Are they that common ? And if so, do I just have to avoid them or I can blaap them before I'm cap out (especially with Tauranon's Proteus) ?
The Spod Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 140	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:10:00 - [9] - Quote MJD Mobile depot Travel fit / black ops Marauders Drone snipers Some keywords :) If you have a supply base or ammo hauler as scout, nothing beats a marauder for the job. Paladin is the best ship for the job but not against guristas or serpentis.
Emma Yobibit Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 57	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:16:00 - [10] - Quote Tech 1 sentrys do better then lasers or rails or blasters all combined... on what ever you ever had. Dominix is the best one, i hit ticks of 20 millions most times in my T2 dominix fit.

Cable Udan Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes 263	Posted - 2013.12.08 11:48:00 - [11] - Quote I hate running anoms, so when I do find the need to do it I like to be able to leave my ship alone to do it's thing whilst I do other stuff (like play WoT). I run Sanctums and Havens in Serpentis space with this fit: [Ishtar, Serpentis Ratter Ogres] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Damage Control II Pith C-Type Thermic Dissipation Field Shield Boost Amplifier II Medium Shield Booster II Drone Navigation Computer I Drone Navigation Computer I Drone Link Augmentor II [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Ogre II x5 Wasp II x5 Warrior II x10 The C-type hardener is only 13~mil so get one. With my skills (perfect fitting skills) it's cap stable with everything running. I use Ogre IIs because I don't have Sentry drones skilled, plus I'm too lazy to run the numbers to see if using T1 sentries with Sentry Drone Interfacing to III will let me run sites faster than using T2 Heavies. I generally get around 17-20mil ticks using this fit. If you do have Sentry drones trained then you can edit my fit by dropping the nav computers for a T2 invuln and a 10mn AB and swap the rigs for two Sentry Damage Augmentors. With perfect fitting skills you'll get nearly 9 minutes of cap with everything bar the AB running but to be honest if Sentries are as amazing as people say you shouldn't need to have everything running. If using a drone boat for running anoms set drones to aggressive and focus fire. This will allow you to (potentially - I don't advise it) go AFK and let them do their thing. Always keep an eye on local, try to be aligned out and be prepared to warp out when neutrals enter system. Also, going off on a completely different tangent I've heard of people who blitz through anoms in all-gank, blaster fit Nagas and can get upwards of 30mil ticks. I've not tried it myself as I don't have large hybrids but it's something I've heard is quick. The only downside is that you have to bore yourself to death clicking on red crosses. Hope this helped, happy ratting o/ http://chasingtheblueflash.blogspot.com/ My Pirate Blog
Abdiel Kavash Paladin Order Fidelas Constans 2211	Posted - 2013.12.08 12:00:00 - [12] - Quote Triakis Cadelanne wrote: Thanks for your answers. From most of you drone boats are the best for this work (which it's supposed to be done in hostile space), anyway I wanted to train them soon. For the future, this is quite important to specify when asking for ship/fit advice. By default people are going to assume you'll be running the anoms in your own sov with intel and help nearby. For example, marauders okay ratting ships if you have intel in nearby systems and can de-bastion and pack up in time. But I'd never even think about taking one into hostile space.
BA Rooster Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.12.08 18:22:00 - [13] - Quote Ishtar is bang on perfect for this. I run an armor and sentry setup that allows for a medium repper, nos and neut along with a Dron Link Aug in the highs. If a sentry gets targeted I can typically rep it well enough to not lose it, or just pull them, if I run low on cap i run the nos, if baddies show up and I am not being diligent the Neut gives me som chance to cap out the tackle and bail. I run one Cap Recharger in the mids and a scram, only because I missed killing a Caracal and a Dram the other day that tackled me cause I had no tackle and both were stupid enough to be inside 10k.
Cage Man 310	Posted - 2013.12.08 18:37:00 - [14] - Quote Vindicator or HAM tengu for guristas space works really well. HAM tengu can do 1k dps at just over 30km. The thick plottens... CCP, When can my crane get its black paint job back??
BA Rooster Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.12.08 20:44:00 - [15] - Quote Cage Man wrote: Vindicator or HAM tengu for guristas space works really well. HAM tengu can do 1k dps at just over 30km. But there is so much flying about an expensive missile usage!
Gnadolin Space Pioneers Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere 14	Posted - 2013.12.08 23:09:00 - [16] - Quote Kronos?
Cage Man 310	Posted - 2013.12.08 23:53:00 - [17] - Quote BA Rooster wrote: Cage Man wrote: Vindicator or HAM tengu for guristas space works really well. HAM tengu can do 1k dps at just over 30km. But there is so much flying about an expensive missile usage! T2 HAM's are cheap.. if you don't want to move around then just a pick a marauder that does the damage you want to deal. Domi's and ishtar also work, bit slower than other options tbh. Otherwise just use a sentry carrier I don't like the idea of being stuck in bastion mode unable to move when someone comes in to the system, and if an interceptor pilots picks you current site first, even a BS isn't going to get warping before they land. The thick plottens... CCP, When can my crane get its black paint job back??
Batelle Komm susser Tod 567	Posted - 2013.12.09 18:45:00 - [18] - Quote lasers are horribad against both those factions. Using battleships for 0.0 plexes has lots of downsides. If you do take a battleship, I would make it a domi, a rattler, a mach, or any non-paladin marauder. Save the navy domis and the vindicators for anomalies. HAM tengus should also stick to anomalies. Tengu/ishtar are excellent against both of those factions. Any other sentry ship you can take will be inferior to the domi/ishtar, and any other non-sentry cruiser will be inferior to the tengu. Flying anything other than the above will very likely result in you doing it wrong, although many many more ships/setups are viable once you take the "solo" requirement out. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.
Hav0cide Universe Expedition Force 30	Posted - 2013.12.10 11:01:00 - [19] - Quote Batelle wrote: HAM tengus should also stick to anomalies. I actually disagree if you have alts flying with you. But even then HAMgus are fine at DED sites as only really the Guristas 10/10 has frigs that scram. I fly as MWD Hamgu for null exploration and works great. Also note, T2 HAM (Javelin) hits for almost 50KM with 600 odd DPS. Which is still a good amount of DPS. The Shadows Proclamation is recruiting new and existing explorers for nullsec exploration. Join a team and experience null safely. Join 'The Shadow Lounge-' and chat with us.
Luwc Easy Co. Fatal Ascension 22	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:27:00 - [20] - Quote (You gun' rent from us ?) Don't do bastion marauders. You will be caught by inties and laughed at for a bil+ loss if you can fly something just as effective way cheaper - Sentry Ishtar - Sentry Dominix - HAM Cerberus does really good as well - The Scrubs favorite choice . THE DRAKE ! You don't really need much of a tank. The Cerb and Ishtar can already "almost" speed tank the rats. Or you just simply snipe with the sentries. Go for DPS instead of Tank on a ratting ship for max. isk yield.



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