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Rhes
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Posted - 2013.12.06 13:33:00 -
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Baroness Vulna wrote:Well CCP is going to lose alot more players if they just ignore avatars and walking in stations because there are a great many players (i know of) who want that to be part of the game they play. That's fine. If people can't live without wizard robes and dance emotes they shouldn't be playing Eve in the first place.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 13:40:00 -
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Davon Mandra'thin wrote:Rhes wrote:Baroness Vulna wrote:Well CCP is going to lose alot more players if they just ignore avatars and walking in stations because there are a great many players (i know of) who want that to be part of the game they play. That's fine. If people can't live without wizard robes and dance emotes they shouldn't be playing Eve in the first place. All the people who want WiS don't want those things, so your comment applies to no one. In which case, why bother posting it at all?
They say they don't want those things but when they actually list what they do want wizard robes and dance emotes are actually less offensive. Roleplayers are the worst.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 13:44:00 -
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Davon Mandra'thin wrote:Your kind are the worst. Reported for racism.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 13:48:00 -
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I love people who still think WoD will ever be released. EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:03:00 -
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Major Trant wrote:Sure they screwed up, but the real hatred for WIS is that everything else went out the window for an incredibly long time before CCP finally gave up on the project and that is why so many are against CCP trying to divert resources to it again.
Exactly. People who are asking CCP to once again neglect real Eve content for more roleplaying nonsense should be banned for trolling.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
Rhes
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:17:00 -
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Davon Mandra'thin wrote:As above. You've had this explained to you before Rhes. Ignorance is not an argument. Then explain why people are *still* crying about WiS when CCP has made it very clear that Eve is about spaceships. Incarna was over two years ago...if you can't live with the state of avatar gameplay at this point why are you still playing? EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:19:00 -
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Meskiaggaseir wrote:Rhes wrote:Davon Mandra'thin wrote:Your kind are the worst. Reported for racism. shakes me head.... I know. It's sad to see racist rhetoric so openly stated in 2013. Here's hoping to a brighter future! EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:35:00 -
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Davon Mandra'thin wrote:You supported the notion that CCP spent 18 months developing the CQs when they didn't, I dispelled the notion No, you didn't.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:43:00 -
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Davon Mandra'thin wrote:Rhes wrote:Davon Mandra'thin wrote:You supported the notion that CCP spent 18 months developing the CQs when they didn't, I dispelled the notion No, you didn't. You going to support that statement? No. Know why? Because you can't. That's as much talking to you as I can stand today.
Why don't you support your statement first. Dazzle us with the proof that CCP didn't waste almost two years on Incarna. EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:44:00 -
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You could post some screenshots of your captain's quarters! EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:52:00 -
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Notorious Fellon wrote:Rhes wrote:They say they don't want those things but when they actually list what they do want wizard robes and dance emotes are actually less offensive. Roleplayers are the worst.
Don't assume you speak for others. You don't.
The truth is the truth despite the number of people who believe it.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:53:00 -
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Hemi DarkStar wrote:No we hold on to the subject because CCP is doing the same. There is no definitive NO WiS, and here in lies the problem and why some of us keep bringing it up. Oh and the fact that ALLOT of people want to see it happen of course.
You must have missed the Reddit AMA where CCP Rise made the statement in my signature.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 15:17:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:The arguments in favor of avatars still are the same now as they were in 2011: The difference is now we have direct proof that CCP considers Eve a spaceship game.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 15:25:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:baltec1 wrote:We want CCP to continue with internet spaceship fixes in this internet spaceship game. Yeah we do, this doesn't mean they can't take like 1% of their time and draw up some rooms we can walk around in
You already have four. That's enough considering we had to suffer two years of real Eve content being ignored to get them.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:03:00 -
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Lors Dornick wrote:Just about 20% of the staff.
Not directly down to WiS, but down to CCP's overstretch in trying to do too much at the same time.
Which among other things led to WoD getting slashed down to a slow simmer and WiS losing it's needed companion game.
So basically when people are crying for CCP to waste more time on WiS they are trying to cause even more people to lose their jobs. Shameful. EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:07:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:I don't care if it takes resources away from something else. And this is why I loathe roleplayers.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:22:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Rhes wrote:Stitcher wrote:I don't care if it takes resources away from something else. And this is why I loathe roleplayers. What has that got to do with RP in my MMORPG? Every MMO I've ever played there have been roleplayers who insist that their nonsense take priority over everything else. WiS fetishists are the same way. Eve Online is a spaceship game and any resources that aren't spent on improving or adding to real Eve content are a waste and bad for the game. People demanding that CCP hurt their own game are just incredibly selfish.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:26:00 -
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Mr Pragmatic wrote:More stale arguments concerning "the players that left".
If players get butt hurt over something so simple as a walk in station, maybe Eve isnt for them. Nobody got "butt hurt" over "walk in station". Eve players got mad over the game being ignored for two years while "walk in station" was developed.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
Rhes
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:27:00 -
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Davon Mandra'thin wrote:Rhes wrote:Stitcher wrote:I don't care if it takes resources away from something else. And this is why I loathe roleplayers. If you don't like people wanting stuff other than Eve content maybe you should go onto the Dust forums and rant at them. There are more people there that want developers doing that 'not on spaceships' than in this forum. I think your purpose would be better served there. Also, we don't really want you and your alts here. Also, biomass. Dust is failing all on its own without my help.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:42:00 -
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Baroness Vulna wrote:Wow, this topic has hit a few nerves and hearts it seems. For good reason, WiS has been a big topic for years, it's too bad CCP messed up so badly on the big expansion for it.
WiS is not just about role playing, it is about immersion in the game and expanding an already promising character/avatar part of the game.
CCP doesn't need to put as much resources into improving WiS , they could gradually work on it with each expansion that way it would complement space ship improvements.
From what i get after reading posts so far, there is a camp of people who absolutely hate the idea of CCP putting any effort into WiS again and a camp that would like to see it done right this time.
Lets hope CCP does something with it.
Let's hope CCP keeps their promise to focus on real Eve content.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Rhes
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Posted - 2013.12.06 17:09:00 -
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Baroness Vulna wrote:WAlking in stations is a real part of EVE content sir, that happened in 2011 and nothing will change that. All I and others are asking for is a piece of the pie each expansion to see it grow. Who knows you may like the improvements someday yourself while still being able to do your internet spaceships. Please see the quote in my signature. EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 17:11:00 -
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Mr Pragmatic wrote:Developing content for WiS need not be too difficult The two years that Eve got ignored while WiS was developed say otherwise.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
Rhes
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Posted - 2013.12.07 14:54:00 -
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Mr Pragmatic wrote:They should do an official silent vote when all characters log in if they are in favor for more Wis Content. Settle this once and for all.
That vote already happened when so many people cancelled their accounts over Incarna CCP had to fly in the CSM for an emergency summit.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
Rhes
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Posted - 2013.12.07 14:57:00 -
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Davon Mandra'thin wrote:Rhes wrote:Mr Pragmatic wrote:They should do an official silent vote when all characters log in if they are in favor for more Wis Content. Settle this once and for all. That vote already happened when so many people cancelled their accounts over Incarna CCP had to fly in the CSM for an emergency summit. We've covered this Rhes, people didn't cancel their subs because of the idea of Walking in Stations.
Well, technically they cancelled because real Eve content was ignored for two years while CCP worked on WiS.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
Rhes
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Posted - 2013.12.07 15:11:00 -
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Baroness Vulna wrote:so WiS wasnt such a waste of time after all, so if WiS is such a hot item and CCP realizes they just messed up on the delivery...why wouldn't they just do it right little by little knowing so many people want it? My guess is that the CSM told them not to, they got scared by all the backlash (after incarna but not entirely about WiS) , or they just dont know what to do right with WiS.
You don't have to guess about anything. Thousands of people stopped giving money to CCP right after Incarna was released.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
Rhes
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Posted - 2013.12.07 15:32:00 -
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Davon Mandra'thin wrote:People didn't leave during Incarna because of Walking in Stations.
Sure they did. I guess you didn't play back then.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.13 05:19:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:If there were internal spaces and the ability to walk around and interact CCP would make a fortune off it.
It's almost like you don't remember the summer of rage where thousands of people stopped giving money to CCP because of WiS.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
Rhes
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:17:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote: There is no obfuscation here
The words are clear as day
As for " a person who wants to do good things on the CSM" like what, exactly?
lol. Good point, hadnt thought of "lol" Lets take random guy Joe, he's been playing for 6 years, in a 250 man corp, he knows 1000 people. He decides he's qualified to run for CSM. So he gets all his corporation to vote for him, he convinces 500 of his friends to vote. So they do. Then CFC see's Joe thinks there should be WIS and decides that's not for them because they want new Super Super Capitals instead. CFC sends an alliance wide emails to its 35,000 members to vote for their own candidate, PsiK0Killa, who eats his snot and can barely wipe his bum after a poo. Joe has great qualifications, has good intentions, wants to be fair. CFC Peon PsiK0Killa is a complete idiot. Joe gets 750 votes and is downvoted by CFC, and PsiK0Killa gets 35k votes + 35k alt votes + 35k alt votes + 35k a..... you get the point. Its rigged. No two ways about it. The best candidate is not elected at all.
If he can only get 750 (out of 465k) votes then Joe isn't qualified to be on the CSM. This is even sillier than your "no reinforcement timers" argument.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.13 19:39:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Also if CCP actually wanted people to vote they could put in an actual voting system. One person, one vote. Not one person, one vote, one goon, 20 votes crap.
Each account only gets one vote. I have no idea why you think Goons get 20 votes but it makes you sound like a crazy person.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
Rhes
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Posted - 2013.12.13 19:40:00 -
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Nadia Barsrallah wrote:To my knowledge WiS, and WoD are based off the unity engine. That with the fact that CCP has a prefab library, means that fleshing out actual enviroments is very trivial in dev time.
Fleshing out environments isn't what the pro-WiS people are crying for. They want card games, dance emotes, and a bunch of hilariously bad roleplaying nonsense. Also, wizard robes.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Rhes
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Posted - 2013.12.13 19:45:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Rhes wrote:Nadia Barsrallah wrote:To my knowledge WiS, and WoD are based off the unity engine. That with the fact that CCP has a prefab library, means that fleshing out actual enviroments is very trivial in dev time.
Fleshing out environments isn't what the pro-WiS people are crying for. They want card games, dance emotes, and a bunch of hilariously bad roleplaying nonsense. Also, wizard robes. You've... obviously not bothered to read a single thing that any of us have been saying.
Not true. I've read way too much about what you (and the other WiS trolls) have been saying and sometimes it makes my head hurt because it's so, so bad.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.18 20:12:00 -
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Naydra Adni wrote:jenn aside.. honestly you're being a douche bag. This seems unnecessary.
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Posted - 2013.12.18 23:43:00 -
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Ambassador Crane wrote:And once again, thatGÇÖs where I come off as calling you narrow minded. Because you see Eve only as a spaceship game rather than the game CCP started out developing Eve to be. Check the quote in my sig. CCP sees Eve as a spaceship game. EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.19 01:30:00 -
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Naydra Adni wrote:Rhes wrote:Ambassador Crane wrote:And once again, thatGÇÖs where I come off as calling you narrow minded. Because you see Eve only as a spaceship game rather than the game CCP started out developing Eve to be. Check the quote in my sig. CCP sees Eve as a spaceship game. it seems for every quote someone posts, or uses as a sig, there's someone else who finds a quote saying different... That's because people keep pulling up quotes from years ago before Incarna was released. The quote in my sig is from the Reddit AMA that CCP Rise did a couple weeks ago. It is the latest info available. EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.19 18:05:00 -
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Yeah, I sure hope CCP stops working on real Eve content so you guys can sit in a bar and watch strippers. EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.20 01:23:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Balancing is not the same as development. We've had plenty of balancing but no actual development.
Sure it is. Dozens of ships that nobody ever used are now being regularly flown in fleets and that wouldn't be true if CCP was still trying to cater to the whims of roleplayers. EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.21 21:11:00 -
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Elizabeth Brown wrote:I think a great deal of people who think Avatar content is a bad idea think that on the basis that they believe anything CCP deliver in future will be like the CQ, pointless and devoid of content with no impact on the rest of the Eve universe. No, we're afraid that real Eve content will get ignored for another two years and the result will be even worse than the CQ. Based on the current status of DUST and WoD there is every reason to be fearful. EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.22 00:11:00 -
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Davon Mandra'thin wrote:Rhes wrote:Elizabeth Brown wrote:I think a great deal of people who think Avatar content is a bad idea think that on the basis that they believe anything CCP deliver in future will be like the CQ, pointless and devoid of content with no impact on the rest of the Eve universe. No, we're afraid that real Eve content will get ignored for another two years and the result will be even worse than the CQ. Based on the current status of DUST and WoD there is every reason to be fearful. This again Rhes? You realise this has been covered over and over. It's just bull **** plain and simple. Incarna wasn't the reason Eve was neglected for 18 months. If you've got any references or evidence I will be happy to concede, but you don't, and there is lots of evidence to the contrary. This is a terrible troll at best, and ignorance or stupidity at worst.
So what was CCP working on for the two years before Incarna was released (it sure wasn't actual Eve content)? Did those rooms with a couch just appear by magic? EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Posted - 2013.12.22 00:22:00 -
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Naydra Adni wrote: are you really ignorant enough to believe it took all of CCPtwo years to make a single room?
Don't forget the wildly popular microtransaction store.
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