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Muadeeb Ousil	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:53:00 - [61] Energiser Bunny anyone?
Gunstar Zero	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:54:00 - [62] Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 04/03/2006 21:32:42 Originally by: j0sephine "Have you ever known BoB to honour an agreement? Their internal management processes are medieval. Even kicking us out of PB was a breach of the previous agreement, which stated we'd get two weeks notice, not three days." If i recall right, ISS members shooting BoB also wasn't part of the agreement in question. So that's pretty much crying how the other side didn't follow the contract after ISS broke it in the first place. but that's old stuff and relevant threads are in corporations and alliances section for everyone to see... You understand, of course, that the ISS is a civilian megacorp and all you have to do if report the offender with evidence and they'd be expelled from their corp or their corp expelled from the alliance? But of course, BoB have never been known for their diplomatic skills now, have they? You can't micromanage an entire alliance's member's actions and the ISS didn't sanction actions taken by any member pilot against BoB. In short, a single pilot broke the deal, not the entire ISS and that pilot couldand should have been dealt with singly. BoB were just looking for an excuse to break off the deal. Your inept management and security ammounted to gross misconduct. Our decision process is tempered and you were given numerous opportunties to sort out your spy ridden alliance, however ISS bumbled along in it's usual manner and nothing was done. The fact that you got 3 days to leave is testament to how much we like & respect what you are trying to do. Given the gravity of the situation it was more than was deserved.
Ikvar	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:22:00 - [63] It was me attacking the Marginis outpost. I rolled in with my Velator, went into Siege mode outside each of the 5 POS and destroyed them. My jesus damage output makes it possible for me to still damage a POS while it's in reinforced mode, therefore I was able to take the system and the station and have a nice cup of tea in about 10 minutes. WTS: 1x Gallente Outpost, mail ingame for pricing. Originally by: Avon I actually enjoy crafting in EQ2.
Tauruz	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:28:00 - [64] I bet this thread hits 10 pages by Tuesday.
Grainsalt	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:29:00 - [65] Originally by: Tauruz I bet this thread hits 10 pages by Tuesday. Tuesday? Fek, more like Sunday BabyBlue:- "I propose CCP make USB powered genital electrodes compulsory for pod pilots, activated when hull < 5%. "
Galaxion	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:35:00 - [66] Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 04/03/2006 21:32:42 Originally by: j0sephine "Have you ever known BoB to honour an agreement? Their internal management processes are medieval. Even kicking us out of PB was a breach of the previous agreement, which stated we'd get two weeks notice, not three days." If i recall right, ISS members shooting BoB also wasn't part of the agreement in question. So that's pretty much crying how the other side didn't follow the contract after ISS broke it in the first place. but that's old stuff and relevant threads are in corporations and alliances section for everyone to see... You understand, of course, that the ISS is a civilian megacorp and all you have to do if report the offender with evidence and they'd be expelled from their corp or their corp expelled from the alliance? But of course, BoB have never been known for their diplomatic skills now, have they? You can't micromanage an entire alliance's member's actions and the ISS didn't sanction actions taken by any member pilot against BoB. In short, a single pilot broke the deal, not the entire ISS and that pilot couldand should have been dealt with singly. BoB were just looking for an excuse to break off the deal. In BoB, the actions of any us reflct upon that of the entire alliance. I feel we take the view that the actions of any other pilot reflect upon their corp, and indeed by extension, the alliance. Any hostile act by ISS or any alliance is not a hostile act by a person, but rather a hostile act by a representative of the alliance, that they have been given the honour of flying under. Thus is the way, I would think, of all PVP alliances. An attack is an attack. Second chances don't come easily in EVE. But what do I know, I am but a peon.
Jigglepants	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:36:00 - [67] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Nyphur Oh god. I thought those things were invulnerable if you have sov in the system or something. correct. however, ISS put their outpost in a system with only 5 moons to prevent people spamming the sys with pos to gain sov. On the other hand, it means the attackers only have 5 pos to take down, which would take a proper dreadnought fleet 5 hours tops to do. Not really. With station services in system, you can free up tons of POS stuff and slap on tons of hardeners. A large POS with 50% universal resists takes something like 90,000,000 damage to take down. Thats 67,500,000 damage before it goes reinforced. And with hauler alts in mammoths filled with strontium logged off inside of the bubble, I really wish any dread fleet well taking down that POS, much less 5 of them. And thats just the POS, that doesnt include what happens when the defending fleet shows up in nosageddons.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:39:00 - [68] Time for an official response I think. BoB is not attacking ISS Marginis. Eve Blacklight Style
Ievin CaviI	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:42:00 - [69] Edited by: Ievin CaviI on 04/03/2006 22:42:09 Originally by: Blacklight Time for an official response I think. BoB is not attacking ISS Marginis. was ther any plans to do so, if not, will there be such plans in the future
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:43:00 - [70] Originally by: Ievin CaviI Originally by: Blacklight Time for an official response I think. BoB is not attacking ISS Marginis. was ther any plans to do so, if not, where there be such plans in the future We have plans for taking every station in Eve, so why would this one be any different? Eve Blacklight Style
Galaxion	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:45:00 - [71] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Ievin CaviI Originally by: Blacklight Time for an official response I think. BoB is not attacking ISS Marginis. was ther any plans to do so, if not, where there be such plans in the future We have plans for taking every station in Eve, so why would this one be any different? YARRRR vagueness ftw.
Jowen Datloran	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:46:00 - [72] Why is there a Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions flame thread in going on in EVE General Discussions? It seems to me that this thread already has done it purpose: Stir up trouble for ISS by spreading misinformation. ---------------- Main as main can be. Freelance producer of: Spike M hybrid ammo (1k/unit) Damnation command cruiser (200m/unit) Now with BYOM deal, see bio for details.
Zenst	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:47:00 - [73] Originally by: Blacklight Time for an official response I think. BoB is not attacking ISS Marginis. Awwww, we were having fun reading this, especialy the `i'm a resident and i know bob did it posts`. Next week we get accused of killing Santa in a fly-by on the North pole just left of Jita using stealth snowball launchers.
Neo Angel	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:53:00 - [74] Is crashing nodes part of ISS defense?
Koba Kyogen	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:00:00 - [75] Originally by: Neo Angel Is crashing nodes part of ISS defense? lol - most effective defense really. no pilots, no problem. photoshop impared. plain sig ftw.
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:02:00 - [76] This is a strange rumour, I've no idea where it came from. The ISS respect BoB for the excellent PvP Alliance that they are. We understood the reasons for the revoking of the agreement and the player involved was kicked from the ISS. But as has already been stated, thats old news. We accept that as a large industrial alliance we are tempting targets for PvPers sometimes, it goes with the territory. But I do get the impression this thread has been started to promote mudslinging and I hope no-one from the ISS will post anything to feed the flames. ------------------ The ISS Navy is recruiting. See this thread for further details. www.eve-iss.com
Keta Min	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:07:00 - [77] Originally by: MrIc3 ISS Margins is now under CVA control yep. its true.
Tauruz	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:10:00 - [78] Originally by: Blacklight Time for an official response I think. BoB is not attacking ISS Marginis. Jedi mind trick?
Acwron	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:11:00 - [79] Originally by: Galaxion Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 04/03/2006 21:32:42 Originally by: j0sephine "Have you ever known BoB to honour an agreement? Their internal management processes are medieval. Even kicking us out of PB was a breach of the previous agreement, which stated we'd get two weeks notice, not three days." If i recall right, ISS members shooting BoB also wasn't part of the agreement in question. So that's pretty much crying how the other side didn't follow the contract after ISS broke it in the first place. but that's old stuff and relevant threads are in corporations and alliances section for everyone to see... You understand, of course, that the ISS is a civilian megacorp and all you have to do if report the offender with evidence and they'd be expelled from their corp or their corp expelled from the alliance? But of course, BoB have never been known for their diplomatic skills now, have they? You can't micromanage an entire alliance's member's actions and the ISS didn't sanction actions taken by any member pilot against BoB. In short, a single pilot broke the deal, not the entire ISS and that pilot couldand should have been dealt with singly. BoB were just looking for an excuse to break off the deal. In BoB, the actions of any us reflct upon that of the entire alliance. I feel we take the view that the actions of any other pilot reflect upon their corp, and indeed by extension, the alliance. Any hostile act by ISS or any alliance is not a hostile act by a person, but rather a hostile act by a representative of the alliance, that they have been given the honour of flying under. Thus is the way, I would think, of all PVP alliances. An attack is an attack. Second chances don't come easily in EVE. But what do I know, I am but a peon. So if I use a BoB alt to shoot old molly does that mean BoB civil war? ok ok I'll stop trolling and head to bed. :) And just as a note I think if it would have been a member of FIX, Exo, Xelas, whatever instat of ISS I think there would have been some more "patience" but whatever. It's BoB space so they can do whatever they want to.
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:13:00 - [80] Oh dear, what have I caused? Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
BloodSpoon	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:14:00 - [81] Originally by: Nyphur Oh dear, what have I caused? hehe good job 2 legs -------------------------------------- Offensive content removed - BloodSpoon ....thats right i moderated the moderators moderation
Wee Dave	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:16:00 - [82] It's also worthwhile to note that anyone attacking a large POS with the current server stability issues, whether to gain sov or otherwise, with any size force, would need their head checking. Waiting sixty seconds for your dread to acknowledge you asked it to go into siege mode would make you unhappy (and rather poorer) very quickly.
Phobosson	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:16:00 - [83] Attacking a player made trade hub is a good idea for anyone. Take away the competition I suppose. I do hope there is videos. -
Jowen Datloran	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:17:00 - [84] Originally by: Nyphur Oh dear, what have I caused? You've started the usual dung flinging contest. ---------------- Main as main can be. Freelance producer of: Spike M hybrid ammo (1k/unit) Damnation command cruiser (200m/unit) Now with BYOM deal, see bio for details.
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:20:00 - [85] Originally by: Count TaSessine No one have attacked Marginis. I have no idea where this rumor came from. no way i atacked it ! join soar angelic
Evil Edna	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:24:00 - [86] its definatly been taken by CVA
Phobosson	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:24:00 - [87] Originally by: Nyphur Whoever is attacking it just made some powerful enemies. I'm not referring to the ISS Navy. There are people with several billion invested in this station. They can collectively hire every merc in the known universe for a small protion of what they stand to lose. Also, some major corps like NAGA have a big hand in the Marginis pocket. I take it that a force big enough to attack a project such as Marginis itself, would have considered the ramifications of the said attack? -
Keta Min	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:24:00 - [88] they're trying to take it back now! multiple dread fleets and stuff..
Evil Edna	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:26:00 - [89] man this fight is gonna lag the server out big time
Exioce	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:26:00 - [90] i am attacking Marginis. i have already looted half a dozen t2 bpo's. if anyone wants to buy them, please transfer the money into my account, a billion isk for them all.

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