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Lootcatcher	Posted - 2006.03.04 19:55:00 - [1] Havent seen anything about it on the boards, but sure looks like its under siege or something
Obby	Posted - 2006.03.04 19:56:00 - [2] Yes it is
Laudicia	Posted - 2006.03.04 19:57:00 - [3] intresting
moc1	Posted - 2006.03.04 19:59:00 - [4] LOL. -------------------------------------
Snake Jankins	Posted - 2006.03.04 19:59:00 - [5] Edited by: Snake Jankins on 04/03/2006 20:04:45 Originally by: Laudicia intresting Indeed. By whom ? edit Especially interesting, since there was a discussion about the safety of large poses a few days ago. Someone from ISS stated that their poses at their outposts are strong while someone from atuk said, they are weak. Now we'll see. ___________ 'Only ships can be assembled, this is a Frigate.'
sableye	Posted - 2006.03.04 19:59:00 - [6] by who? ORC Outrage Recruiting You Today.
Corp Scammer	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:00:00 - [7] what the outpost or the company itself ? i would have thought they had enough carebears who could counter any threats ? CCP requested feature please - quite simple really. For CEOs days since last login details on all members in their Corp. this will help manage inactives and those that dont log in can be removed -
moc1	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:00:00 - [8] Double Post but LOL. needs to be made prominant -------------------------------------
NestcePas	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:01:00 - [9] What is ISS Marginis?!
Uggster	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:02:00 - [10] By Forum Massive at last check Boo YAKA IYA !
Esurnir	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:03:00 - [11] ISS Marginis a player owned outpost. Wich is a major public Trade hub in catch. -------------------------- On the 8th day. Over created the mods. To have a good laugh.
Corp Scammer	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:03:00 - [12] no idea what anyones on about CCP requested feature please - quite simple really. For CEOs days since last login details on all members in their Corp. this will help manage inactives and those that dont log in can be removed -
Ixianus	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:06:00 - [13] It makese sense to attack it....
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:08:00 - [14] Oh god. I thought those things were invulnerable if you have sov in the system or something. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Jinx Barker	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:09:00 - [15] Originally by: Ixianus It makese sense to attack it.... I agree, they do represent a nice juicy piece of targetable material. What I am interested in is, if they are indeed under a chesive attack - not small skirmishes here and there. I would like to know how it is going, if it is going, since it might influence some major ISK investments and possibly shift whole region in different direction.
Myal Terego	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:09:00 - [16] Good is about all I have to say about that. There is no reason carebears should be able to freely make stations, while having 0 allegience to anyone in -0.0. I hope they lose it, and pirates and other hostiles are able to get some of thier precious t2 bpos from them, as they try and sneak them out in stabbed out vigils near downtime. Use bubbles guys, and the loot will be plentiful.
Garion Maki	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:10:00 - [17] I live near ISS marginis and as far as I know, there was a visit from bob several hours ago, but they had left again about an hour ago. could be they've come back, but I don't have any up to date info on that since I've been mostly logged off since after they left. as for why they came along... I have no idea... the poses there are still undamaged and I don't think they managed to kill anybady (don't shoot me if I'm wrong on that ) so, all they managed to do is to keep a few people docked while having some fun setting up and tearing down cyno-fields and interdictor bubbles... ---
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:18:00 - [18] Whoever is attacking it just made some powerful enemies. I'm not referring to the ISS Navy. There are people with several billion invested in this station. They can collectively hire every merc in the known universe for a small protion of what they stand to lose. Also, some major corps like NAGA have a big hand in the Marginis pocket. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Ficti0n	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:19:00 - [19] I dont think BoB would attack ISS. I mean afaik BoB is quite an honourable corp, and i dont see any honour in attacking a neutral corp, which benefits everyone in 0.0, people that are around to help us.
pardux	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:21:00 - [20] Originally by: Ficti0n I dont think BoB would attack ISS. I mean afaik BoB is quite an honourable corp, and i dont see any honour in attacking a neutral corp, which benefits everyone in 0.0, people that are around to help us. you cant be neutral in 0.0
Constantinee	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:21:00 - [21] Originally by: Myal Terego Good is about all I have to say about that. There is no reason carebears should be able to freely make stations, while having 0 allegience to anyone in -0.0. I hope they lose it, and pirates and other hostiles are able to get some of thier precious t2 bpos from them, as they try and sneak them out in stabbed out vigils near downtime. Use bubbles guys, and the loot will be plentiful. lol myal are you trying to start a war lol
Moghydin	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:25:00 - [22] When OP mentioned that the outpost is under attack, I asked myself a question: "Who might attack it?" And I could think only of 1 alliance, actually I was right. The reason for this attack is something I couldn't think of, except... well, I'll keep it for myself, it's not that nice.
Garion Maki	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:28:00 - [23] Originally by: pardux Originally by: Ficti0n I dont think BoB would attack ISS. I mean afaik BoB is quite an honourable corp, and i dont see any honour in attacking a neutral corp, which benefits everyone in 0.0, people that are around to help us. you cant be neutral in 0.0 you can be neutral to those who are willing to be neutral to you, only setting those who try to atack you as hostile as a way of defence. I think that is currently the iss policy for marginis, if your neutral you can dock, if you fire on neutrals or friendlies (iss alliance members) while in the system, your docking permission get's denied. it tends to keep most people neutral, tho alliances who don't need the outpost might try atacking anyway... ---
Adjodlo	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:29:00 - [24] Originally by: Snake Jankins Edited by: Snake Jankins on 04/03/2006 20:04:45 Originally by: Laudicia intresting Indeed. By whom ? edit Especially interesting, since there was a discussion about the safety of large poses a few days ago. Someone from ISS stated that their poses at their outposts are strong while someone from atuk said, they are weak. Now we'll see. No POS can withstand the force of The Correct DreadÖ
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:30:00 - [25] Originally by: Nyphur Oh god. I thought those things were invulnerable if you have sov in the system or something. That's the theory. Digital Communist> The Jin-Mei are probably more profficient in training for Tofu and Noodles than Spaceship Command
Akhilesh Kamadev	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:33:00 - [26] Centre for disease control is who. Shinra was supposed to be back them but apparently didn't turn up. Then they all went home after infiltrating the system with no real effect. Why? Because they wanted to show that they were a good pvp corp that could gather force quickly or something. Was boring tbh and ISS didn't seem in the least bit upset or bothered by it.
Corp Scammer	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:33:00 - [27] well why ISS is outta business it represents a good business opportunity for the rest of us selling stuff ISS normally have a near cartel on CCP requested feature please - quite simple really. For CEOs days since last login details on all members in their Corp. this will help manage inactives and those that dont log in can be removed -
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:33:00 - [28] Originally by: Nyphur Oh god. I thought those things were invulnerable if you have sov in the system or something. correct. however, ISS put their outpost in a system with only 5 moons to prevent people spamming the sys with pos to gain sov. On the other hand, it means the attackers only have 5 pos to take down, which would take a proper dreadnought fleet 5 hours tops to do. Please do not discuss actions taken by forum moderators, even in your sig. snipred snip brought to you by Kaemonn. PS, you're hot.--Jorauk
Crucifier	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:35:00 - [29] Edited by: Crucifier on 04/03/2006 20:37:18 bah fkn double post
Crucifier	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:35:00 - [30] Bob were attacking ISS outpost in KDF :)
Corp Scammer	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:38:00 - [31] so what do BOB want with KDF and civilian targets - why not go shoot russian alliance ? CCP requested feature please - quite simple really. For CEOs days since last login details on all members in their Corp. this will help manage inactives and those that dont log in can be removed -
Akhilesh Kamadev	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:42:00 - [32] Edited by: Akhilesh Kamadev on 04/03/2006 20:42:53 BoB had nothing to do with it, as ive just stated. or at least were not in attendance.
Snake Jankins	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:43:00 - [33] Edited by: Snake Jankins on 04/03/2006 20:43:48 Edited by: Snake Jankins on 04/03/2006 20:43:19 Originally by: Adjodlo No POS can withstand the force of The Correct DreadÖ Yes that's also what I think, although I don't fly dreads. Unless you come with a fleet to protect your POS and defeat the attackers, a large pos goes down by several dreads. Maybe someone knows a case, where a massive dread attack on a pos failed, although the system was under control. I've never heard of that. Last time I remember was 100+ people protecting the operation, 8 (?) dreads killing the towers like planned without problems. Ok, maybe none of them was the ultimate large pos. ___________ 'Only ships can be assembled, this is a Frigate.'
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:45:00 - [34] Shinra has not attacked the KDF Outpost and had no intention to, fire your intelligence officer. /Elve
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:45:00 - [35] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Nyphur Oh god. I thought those things were invulnerable if you have sov in the system or something. correct. however, ISS put their outpost in a system with only 5 moons to prevent people spamming the sys with pos to gain sov. On the other hand, it means the attackers only have 5 pos to take down, which would take a proper dreadnought fleet 5 hours tops to do. And there's probably a few days of stront in there. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Akhilesh Kamadev	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:47:00 - [36] Agreed shinra did not attack, they failed to turn up. Change of heart?
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:49:00 - [37] Read my post again. /Elve
Akhilesh Kamadev	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:50:00 - [38] I did, it doesnt answer the question of eve comms sent out telling of shinra's intended back up. I suppose the comms could have been wrong but the force in question was expecting your backup. Ask them.
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:51:00 - [39] Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 04/03/2006 20:51:25 Originally by: Elve Sorrow Shinra has not attacked the KDF Outpost and has no intention to, fire your intelligence officer. /Elve
Bazman	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:52:00 - [40] lol, CDC and LV shoot each other, you have some really funky info there ----- Hi TomB! All out Do or Die Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks.
Akhilesh Kamadev	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:54:00 - [41] I seriously suggest you employ my intelligence officer and sack yours. There were around 52 pilots in system with a hard copy of said comms. And like it or not, Shinra is named as support.
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:55:00 - [42] Originally by: Akhilesh Kamadev I seriously suggest you employ my intelligence officer and sack yours. There were around 52 pilots in system with a hard copy of said comms. And like it or not, Shinra is named as support. And i have, repeatedly, pointed out we didn't have anything to do with it. But hey, your choice who to believe: A Shinra director or a random nub whose name you didn't even mention. /Elve
Akhilesh Kamadev	Posted - 2006.03.04 20:58:00 - [43] I am more than happy to take your word for it. I have seen the comms in question, undoctered in original format. I can read perfectly well too with 20/20 vision. If you were not there or had intentions to be there then you should find out why they expected you there and not disagree with me. I only state what i have seen with my own eyes.
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:00:00 - [44] Toss me a copy of these 'comms' then. /Elve
Constantinee	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:16:00 - [45] ok so let me get this straight? BoB were attacking The ISS's outpost in kdf LV has nothing to do witht he inccedent and Stain has been laft out mean while Shinra Argues with a 4 man corp about this Now i am getting confused arent the Iss NAP with bob or did taht change when they kicked Iss out of PB
Akhilesh Kamadev	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:16:00 - [46] And there lies the problem. To show you it would ive been told incriminate the corp in question, this could then filter down to the pilots in question who were on the battlefield and felt let down. The corp mail was very finaly worded, the chances of all corp mails being worded in the same vein is slim and would make them stand out from the crowd. I cannot hurt my source in this. So while I can't do that and that may appear to make my version thin. You must realise that I could also easily pretend and make the comms up myself, which i won't do. I guess its a case of who and what you believe. I have no reason to emmbaress Shinra or yourself or to muck rake between ISS and yourself or your freinds. The only thing I have to gain here is to tell what I have read and if people believe then good. If not the who knows. Maybe with this knowledge you can check internally what happenned and why they expected you, I hope it has been of some use to you if as you state you have no intention of attacking the ISS outpost.
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:18:00 - [47] Originally by: Constantinee ok so let me get this straight? BoB were attacking The ISS's outpost in kdf LV has nothing to do witht he inccedent and Stain has been laft out mean while Shinra Argues with a 4 man corp about this Now i am getting confused arent the Iss NAP with bob or did taht change when they kicked Iss out of PB Have you ever known BoB to honour an agreement? Their internal management processes are medieval. Even kicking us out of PB was a breach of the previous agreement, which stated we'd get two weeks notice, not three days. They're just space bullies. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Count TaSessine	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:21:00 - [48] The starbases in the ISS Marginis Outpost system have not been under attack. Chairman, ISS
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:22:00 - [49] Originally by: Count TaSessine The starbases in the ISS Marginis Outpost system have not been under attack. So just a bunch of hype? Or did someone take a pot-shot at them? Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:22:00 - [50] Originally by: Nyphur Whoever is attacking it just made some powerful enemies. I'm not referring to the ISS Navy. There are people with several billion invested in this station. They can collectively hire every merc in the known universe for a small protion of what they stand to lose. Also, some major corps like NAGA have a big hand in the Marginis pocket. there arent many entities in 0.0 who dont have "powerfull enemies", if you go up to BoB or some other 0.0 pvp entities and tell them that they'll get every merc in eve on their ass if they touch marginis, then i can assure you that they'll go for it, just for the fun Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:27:00 - [51] "Have you ever known BoB to honour an agreement? Their internal management processes are medieval. Even kicking us out of PB was a breach of the previous agreement, which stated we'd get two weeks notice, not three days." If i recall right, ISS members shooting BoB also wasn't part of the agreement in question. So that's pretty much crying how the other side didn't follow the contract after ISS broke it in the first place. but that's old stuff and relevant threads are in corporations and alliances section for everyone to see...
Count TaSessine	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:28:00 - [52] No one have attacked Marginis. I have no idea where this rumor came from. Chairman, ISS
MrIc3	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:29:00 - [53] ISS Margins is now under CVA control
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:31:00 - [54] Originally by: Count TaSessine No one have attacked Marginis. I have no idea where this rumor came from. ISS Information Minister 4tw! (sorry )
Darpz	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:31:00 - [55] Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Nyphur Whoever is attacking it just made some powerful enemies. I'm not referring to the ISS Navy. There are people with several billion invested in this station. They can collectively hire every merc in the known universe for a small protion of what they stand to lose. Also, some major corps like NAGA have a big hand in the Marginis pocket. there arent many entities in 0.0 who dont have "powerfull enemies", if you go up to BoB or some other 0.0 pvp entities and tell them that they'll get every merc in eve on their ass if they touch marginis, then i can assure you that they'll go for it, just for the fun you can only afford to hire mercs for so long, drive by with 10 dreads lay waste to the POS and when mercs are hired bug out till there off contract and repeat again, not to hard really ---------------------------------------- The only good fix is a dead fix
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:31:00 - [56] Edited by: Nyphur on 04/03/2006 21:32:42 Originally by: j0sephine "Have you ever known BoB to honour an agreement? Their internal management processes are medieval. Even kicking us out of PB was a breach of the previous agreement, which stated we'd get two weeks notice, not three days." If i recall right, ISS members shooting BoB also wasn't part of the agreement in question. So that's pretty much crying how the other side didn't follow the contract after ISS broke it in the first place. but that's old stuff and relevant threads are in corporations and alliances section for everyone to see... You understand, of course, that the ISS is a civilian megacorp and all you have to do if report the offender with evidence and they'd be expelled from their corp or their corp expelled from the alliance? But of course, BoB have never been known for their diplomatic skills now, have they? You can't micromanage an entire alliance's member's actions and the ISS didn't sanction actions taken by any member pilot against BoB. In short, a single pilot broke the deal, not the entire ISS and that pilot couldand should have been dealt with singly. BoB were just looking for an excuse to break off the deal. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:33:00 - [57] Originally by: Count TaSessine No one have attacked Marginis. I have no idea where this rumor came from. Originally by: MrIc3 ISS Margins is now under CVA control Propaganda Wars begun they have Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:43:00 - [58] nyphur - yes, tried that - had to do it again, we get bored of doing and enforcing things that we agree, we don't feel we should have to - it was easier for us to revoke our agreement. If you like we could be openly hostile to you, garnering that place on our standings sheet just means continuing on the path of already trodden and agreed lines that you are taking right now. Or you can stfu. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:46:00 - [59] "You understand, of course, that the ISS is a civilian megacorp and all you have to do if report the offender with evidence and they'd be expelled from their corp or their corp expelled from the alliance?" You understand of course it's not anyone concern and problem but ISS' if their lack of control over own members results in ISS breaking conditions of contract made with 3rd party? There was no obligation on BoB side to yet again inform ISS about their member(s) failing to follow the agreement in question. Everyone's patience runs out eventually and it takes some serious nerve and/or lack of info to cite this particular situation as example of "not honouring agreements".
Faith Rose	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:52:00 - [60] Edited by: Faith Rose on 04/03/2006 21:53:37 Hey people Quit assuming...... Most of this intel most of you posted is 3rd ,4th hand info not very reliable. When one person crys wolf you all tend to for some reason. so please keep up the intertaining posts, gives me something to do while i'm mining from time to time. ------------- Death Is Contagous
Muadeeb Ousil	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:53:00 - [61] Energiser Bunny anyone?
Gunstar Zero	Posted - 2006.03.04 21:54:00 - [62] Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 04/03/2006 21:32:42 Originally by: j0sephine "Have you ever known BoB to honour an agreement? Their internal management processes are medieval. Even kicking us out of PB was a breach of the previous agreement, which stated we'd get two weeks notice, not three days." If i recall right, ISS members shooting BoB also wasn't part of the agreement in question. So that's pretty much crying how the other side didn't follow the contract after ISS broke it in the first place. but that's old stuff and relevant threads are in corporations and alliances section for everyone to see... You understand, of course, that the ISS is a civilian megacorp and all you have to do if report the offender with evidence and they'd be expelled from their corp or their corp expelled from the alliance? But of course, BoB have never been known for their diplomatic skills now, have they? You can't micromanage an entire alliance's member's actions and the ISS didn't sanction actions taken by any member pilot against BoB. In short, a single pilot broke the deal, not the entire ISS and that pilot couldand should have been dealt with singly. BoB were just looking for an excuse to break off the deal. Your inept management and security ammounted to gross misconduct. Our decision process is tempered and you were given numerous opportunties to sort out your spy ridden alliance, however ISS bumbled along in it's usual manner and nothing was done. The fact that you got 3 days to leave is testament to how much we like & respect what you are trying to do. Given the gravity of the situation it was more than was deserved.
Ikvar	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:22:00 - [63] It was me attacking the Marginis outpost. I rolled in with my Velator, went into Siege mode outside each of the 5 POS and destroyed them. My jesus damage output makes it possible for me to still damage a POS while it's in reinforced mode, therefore I was able to take the system and the station and have a nice cup of tea in about 10 minutes. WTS: 1x Gallente Outpost, mail ingame for pricing. Originally by: Avon I actually enjoy crafting in EQ2.
Tauruz	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:28:00 - [64] I bet this thread hits 10 pages by Tuesday.
Grainsalt	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:29:00 - [65] Originally by: Tauruz I bet this thread hits 10 pages by Tuesday. Tuesday? Fek, more like Sunday BabyBlue:- "I propose CCP make USB powered genital electrodes compulsory for pod pilots, activated when hull < 5%. "
Galaxion	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:35:00 - [66] Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 04/03/2006 21:32:42 Originally by: j0sephine "Have you ever known BoB to honour an agreement? Their internal management processes are medieval. Even kicking us out of PB was a breach of the previous agreement, which stated we'd get two weeks notice, not three days." If i recall right, ISS members shooting BoB also wasn't part of the agreement in question. So that's pretty much crying how the other side didn't follow the contract after ISS broke it in the first place. but that's old stuff and relevant threads are in corporations and alliances section for everyone to see... You understand, of course, that the ISS is a civilian megacorp and all you have to do if report the offender with evidence and they'd be expelled from their corp or their corp expelled from the alliance? But of course, BoB have never been known for their diplomatic skills now, have they? You can't micromanage an entire alliance's member's actions and the ISS didn't sanction actions taken by any member pilot against BoB. In short, a single pilot broke the deal, not the entire ISS and that pilot couldand should have been dealt with singly. BoB were just looking for an excuse to break off the deal. In BoB, the actions of any us reflct upon that of the entire alliance. I feel we take the view that the actions of any other pilot reflect upon their corp, and indeed by extension, the alliance. Any hostile act by ISS or any alliance is not a hostile act by a person, but rather a hostile act by a representative of the alliance, that they have been given the honour of flying under. Thus is the way, I would think, of all PVP alliances. An attack is an attack. Second chances don't come easily in EVE. But what do I know, I am but a peon.
Jigglepants	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:36:00 - [67] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Nyphur Oh god. I thought those things were invulnerable if you have sov in the system or something. correct. however, ISS put their outpost in a system with only 5 moons to prevent people spamming the sys with pos to gain sov. On the other hand, it means the attackers only have 5 pos to take down, which would take a proper dreadnought fleet 5 hours tops to do. Not really. With station services in system, you can free up tons of POS stuff and slap on tons of hardeners. A large POS with 50% universal resists takes something like 90,000,000 damage to take down. Thats 67,500,000 damage before it goes reinforced. And with hauler alts in mammoths filled with strontium logged off inside of the bubble, I really wish any dread fleet well taking down that POS, much less 5 of them. And thats just the POS, that doesnt include what happens when the defending fleet shows up in nosageddons.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:39:00 - [68] Time for an official response I think. BoB is not attacking ISS Marginis. Eve Blacklight Style
Ievin CaviI	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:42:00 - [69] Edited by: Ievin CaviI on 04/03/2006 22:42:09 Originally by: Blacklight Time for an official response I think. BoB is not attacking ISS Marginis. was ther any plans to do so, if not, will there be such plans in the future
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:43:00 - [70] Originally by: Ievin CaviI Originally by: Blacklight Time for an official response I think. BoB is not attacking ISS Marginis. was ther any plans to do so, if not, where there be such plans in the future We have plans for taking every station in Eve, so why would this one be any different? Eve Blacklight Style
Galaxion	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:45:00 - [71] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Ievin CaviI Originally by: Blacklight Time for an official response I think. BoB is not attacking ISS Marginis. was ther any plans to do so, if not, where there be such plans in the future We have plans for taking every station in Eve, so why would this one be any different? YARRRR vagueness ftw.
Jowen Datloran	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:46:00 - [72] Why is there a Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions flame thread in going on in EVE General Discussions? It seems to me that this thread already has done it purpose: Stir up trouble for ISS by spreading misinformation. ---------------- Main as main can be. Freelance producer of: Spike M hybrid ammo (1k/unit) Damnation command cruiser (200m/unit) Now with BYOM deal, see bio for details.
Zenst	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:47:00 - [73] Originally by: Blacklight Time for an official response I think. BoB is not attacking ISS Marginis. Awwww, we were having fun reading this, especialy the `i'm a resident and i know bob did it posts`. Next week we get accused of killing Santa in a fly-by on the North pole just left of Jita using stealth snowball launchers.
Neo Angel	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:53:00 - [74] Is crashing nodes part of ISS defense?
Koba Kyogen	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:00:00 - [75] Originally by: Neo Angel Is crashing nodes part of ISS defense? lol - most effective defense really. no pilots, no problem. photoshop impared. plain sig ftw.
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:02:00 - [76] This is a strange rumour, I've no idea where it came from. The ISS respect BoB for the excellent PvP Alliance that they are. We understood the reasons for the revoking of the agreement and the player involved was kicked from the ISS. But as has already been stated, thats old news. We accept that as a large industrial alliance we are tempting targets for PvPers sometimes, it goes with the territory. But I do get the impression this thread has been started to promote mudslinging and I hope no-one from the ISS will post anything to feed the flames. ------------------ The ISS Navy is recruiting. See this thread for further details. www.eve-iss.com
Keta Min	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:07:00 - [77] Originally by: MrIc3 ISS Margins is now under CVA control yep. its true.
Tauruz	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:10:00 - [78] Originally by: Blacklight Time for an official response I think. BoB is not attacking ISS Marginis. Jedi mind trick?
Acwron	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:11:00 - [79] Originally by: Galaxion Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 04/03/2006 21:32:42 Originally by: j0sephine "Have you ever known BoB to honour an agreement? Their internal management processes are medieval. Even kicking us out of PB was a breach of the previous agreement, which stated we'd get two weeks notice, not three days." If i recall right, ISS members shooting BoB also wasn't part of the agreement in question. So that's pretty much crying how the other side didn't follow the contract after ISS broke it in the first place. but that's old stuff and relevant threads are in corporations and alliances section for everyone to see... You understand, of course, that the ISS is a civilian megacorp and all you have to do if report the offender with evidence and they'd be expelled from their corp or their corp expelled from the alliance? But of course, BoB have never been known for their diplomatic skills now, have they? You can't micromanage an entire alliance's member's actions and the ISS didn't sanction actions taken by any member pilot against BoB. In short, a single pilot broke the deal, not the entire ISS and that pilot couldand should have been dealt with singly. BoB were just looking for an excuse to break off the deal. In BoB, the actions of any us reflct upon that of the entire alliance. I feel we take the view that the actions of any other pilot reflect upon their corp, and indeed by extension, the alliance. Any hostile act by ISS or any alliance is not a hostile act by a person, but rather a hostile act by a representative of the alliance, that they have been given the honour of flying under. Thus is the way, I would think, of all PVP alliances. An attack is an attack. Second chances don't come easily in EVE. But what do I know, I am but a peon. So if I use a BoB alt to shoot old molly does that mean BoB civil war? ok ok I'll stop trolling and head to bed. :) And just as a note I think if it would have been a member of FIX, Exo, Xelas, whatever instat of ISS I think there would have been some more "patience" but whatever. It's BoB space so they can do whatever they want to.
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:13:00 - [80] Oh dear, what have I caused? Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
BloodSpoon	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:14:00 - [81] Originally by: Nyphur Oh dear, what have I caused? hehe good job 2 legs -------------------------------------- Offensive content removed - BloodSpoon ....thats right i moderated the moderators moderation
Wee Dave	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:16:00 - [82] It's also worthwhile to note that anyone attacking a large POS with the current server stability issues, whether to gain sov or otherwise, with any size force, would need their head checking. Waiting sixty seconds for your dread to acknowledge you asked it to go into siege mode would make you unhappy (and rather poorer) very quickly.
Phobosson	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:16:00 - [83] Attacking a player made trade hub is a good idea for anyone. Take away the competition I suppose. I do hope there is videos. -
Jowen Datloran	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:17:00 - [84] Originally by: Nyphur Oh dear, what have I caused? You've started the usual dung flinging contest. ---------------- Main as main can be. Freelance producer of: Spike M hybrid ammo (1k/unit) Damnation command cruiser (200m/unit) Now with BYOM deal, see bio for details.
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:20:00 - [85] Originally by: Count TaSessine No one have attacked Marginis. I have no idea where this rumor came from. no way i atacked it ! join soar angelic
Evil Edna	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:24:00 - [86] its definatly been taken by CVA
Phobosson	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:24:00 - [87] Originally by: Nyphur Whoever is attacking it just made some powerful enemies. I'm not referring to the ISS Navy. There are people with several billion invested in this station. They can collectively hire every merc in the known universe for a small protion of what they stand to lose. Also, some major corps like NAGA have a big hand in the Marginis pocket. I take it that a force big enough to attack a project such as Marginis itself, would have considered the ramifications of the said attack? -
Keta Min	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:24:00 - [88] they're trying to take it back now! multiple dread fleets and stuff..
Evil Edna	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:26:00 - [89] man this fight is gonna lag the server out big time
Exioce	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:26:00 - [90] i am attacking Marginis. i have already looted half a dozen t2 bpo's. if anyone wants to buy them, please transfer the money into my account, a billion isk for them all.
BloodSpoon	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:27:00 - [91] Originally by: Evil Edna man this fight is gonna lag the server out big time i'd put up with the lag just to watch it -------------------------------------- Offensive content removed - BloodSpoon ....thats right i moderated the moderators moderation
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:27:00 - [92] Originally by: Jowen Datloran Originally by: Nyphur Oh dear, what have I caused? You've started the usual dung flinging contest. Sorry :S. I'll go back to me veld Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Acron Ishtal	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:34:00 - [93] Edited by: Acron Ishtal on 04/03/2006 23:34:44 Originally by: Evil Edna its definatly been taken by CVA Awww nuts. We took an outpost today and nobody told me to come... :< ((We didn't take the outpost, just in case the brain dead are reading this.)) --------------------------------------------- "True honor is found only in service to the Emperor. Only His wisdom can guide us to the path of the righteous."
Tauruz	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:39:00 - [94] I took the outpost for a walk. It was nice, the sun was shining, snow was on the ground and afterwards we had a coffee at a nice little cafe.
Verus Potestas	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:39:00 - [95] these are not the dreads you are looking for...
James Lyrus	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:43:00 - [96] How did this thread get to 4 pages? Rumour starts, gets debunked, and degenerates into a flamewar. It's like banging your head against a wall, as all the trolls come out to play. -- We are recruiting We sell carriers.
James Lyrus	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:45:00 - [97] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: James Lyrus How did this thread get to 4 pages? Rumour starts, gets debunked, and degenerates into a flamewar. It's like banging your head against a wall, as all the trolls come out to play. are you denying, sir, that i have singlehandedly brought ISS to its knees? because it sounds that way from where i'm standing Back under your bridge!. Back I say! -- We are recruiting We sell carriers.
James Lyrus	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:45:00 - [98] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: James Lyrus How did this thread get to 4 pages? Rumour starts, gets debunked, and degenerates into a flamewar. It's like banging your head against a wall, as all the trolls come out to play. are you denying, sir, that i have singlehandedly brought ISS to its knees? because it sounds that way from where i'm standing Back under your bridge!. Back I say! -- We are recruiting We sell carriers.
Exioce	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:45:00 - [99] Originally by: James Lyrus How did this thread get to 4 pages? Rumour starts, gets debunked, and degenerates into a flamewar. It's like banging your head against a wall, as all the trolls come out to play. are you denying, sir, that i have singlehandedly brought ISS to its knees? because it sounds that way from where i'm standing
Keta Min	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:47:00 - [100] Originally by: Acron Ishtal Edited by: Acron Ishtal on 04/03/2006 23:34:44 Originally by: Evil Edna its definatly been taken by CVA Awww nuts. We took an outpost today and nobody told me to come... :< ((We didn't take the outpost, just in case the brain dead are reading this.)) tbh i think the community needs to know about this even if you agreed with ISS to deny it so the share price doesnt drop.
Exstar c	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:55:00 - [101] i dont know what this thread is about but what ever keta min says im 100% with his/her opinion feed me
maclove	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:58:00 - [102] I have been involved in the history of CVA for one year now. And this is most SHOCKING, why would they cause such saddness and pain on one of eve's most boring and carebearish communities? buy my book, 10 THINGS THAT ARE REALLY NOT VERY INTERESTING ABOUT CVA By Maclove, just $4.00 available through eve mail
Muadeeb Ousil	Posted - 2006.03.05 00:07:00 - [103] I killed Keta Min today. And i was in an Impairor...
Redwolf	Posted - 2006.03.05 00:09:00 - [104] Originally by: Keta Min Originally by: Acron Ishtal Edited by: Acron Ishtal on 04/03/2006 23:34:44 Originally by: Evil Edna its definatly been taken by CVA Awww nuts. We took an outpost today and nobody told me to come... :< ((We didn't take the outpost, just in case the brain dead are reading this.)) tbh i think the community needs to know about this even if you agreed with ISS to deny it so the share price doesnt drop. You're just jealous because Admiral Siobahn refused your offer of service as her personal slave.
Keta Min	Posted - 2006.03.05 00:10:00 - [105] Originally by: Muadeeb Ousil I killed Keta Min today. And i was in an Impairor... anyone can use overpowered cookiecutter ships.. wait for the balancing in kali and come again.
Keta Min	Posted - 2006.03.05 00:12:00 - [106] btw please stay on topic. it's about CVA taking the outpost and their reasons.
MrIc3	Posted - 2006.03.05 00:13:00 - [107] hows the fighting over the station going redwolf?
Redwolf	Posted - 2006.03.05 00:14:00 - [108] I am Spartacus!
Avon	Posted - 2006.03.05 00:16:00 - [109] I heard that Chuck Norris just knocked on the door and accidentally conquered it. Is that not what happened? The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Keta Min	Posted - 2006.03.05 00:17:00 - [110] Originally by: Avon I heard that Chuck Norris just knocked on the door and accidentally conquered it. Is that not what happened? Chuck Norris joined CVA? lame.
ODd Anders1	Posted - 2006.03.05 00:30:00 - [111] I got screens and video of the attack of the station. It was an attack on the system and the station. And intel I got showed no evidence off ISS figting the enemy back.
Shadowsword	Posted - 2006.03.05 00:33:00 - [112] Originally by: Galaxion In BoB, the actions of any us reflct upon that of the entire alliance. I feel we take the view that the actions of any other pilot reflect upon their corp, and indeed by extension, the alliance. Any hostile act by ISS or any alliance is not a hostile act by a person, but rather a hostile act by a representative of the alliance, that they have been given the honour of flying under. Thus is the way, I would think, of all PVP alliances. An attack is an attack. Second chances don't come easily in EVE. But what do I know, I am but a peon. That's a point of view I share, to some extent. Corps have to answer for the behaviour of their members. They can punish the offending member after an incident, but there's only so much they can do to prevent incidents from happening in the first place, and corps relying on a democratic model and weak direct hierarchic (sp?) control tend to have limited means of enforcing thier policy. However, Galaxion, your own alliance (and, more specifically, corporation), despite a strong leadership, also sometimes suffer from similar "incidents". If you want more details, contact me in-game. Things are better left in private, and I don't want this thread to derail into a smack war... More than it already is, at least...
Liare	Posted - 2006.03.05 00:33:00 - [113] Originally by: Akhilesh Kamadev And there lies the problem. To show you it would ive been told incriminate the corp in question, this could then filter down to the pilots in question who were on the battlefield and felt let down. The corp mail was very finaly worded, the chances of all corp mails being worded in the same vein is slim and would make them stand out from the crowd. I cannot hurt my source in this. So while I can't do that and that may appear to make my version thin. You must realise that I could also easily pretend and make the comms up myself, which i won't do. I guess its a case of who and what you believe. I have no reason to emmbaress Shinra or yourself or to muck rake between ISS and yourself or your freinds. The only thing I have to gain here is to tell what I have read and if people believe then good. If not the who knows. Maybe with this knowledge you can check internally what happenned and why they expected you, I hope it has been of some use to you if as you state you have no intention of attacking the ISS outpost. comedy gold i am among a group of SNRA people who cannot accept the presence of VIRII and certain of their members, not that i drectly hate these people directly, but rather what they stand for. to suggest that we whould be working with CDC when we have been openly fighting them on a routine basis is.... silly, only the word does not quite cover it properly. but eh, let the rumor mongering continue by all means, anybody with any insight into the past history of the region in and around curse will know just how far fetched and, quite frankly, stupid the idea is. i also wonder, why the hell whould we LV, want a outpost in Catch in the first place ? it does not make sence on a strategic level nor whould it bring any short, or long, term tactical benifits. but as i said before, by all means, spread whatever misinformation you wish. _____________________________ Ex-Coretech, We still shoot people.
maclove	Posted - 2006.03.05 01:45:00 - [114] Well glad thats all cleared up finally!!! Gratzs on taking the outpost CVA
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.05 02:23:00 - [115] Originally by: Dark Shikari If I remember correctly, ISS stated when they built the outpost that they would have enough strontium in system to withstand a one month siege. i thought you cant refill pos's with strontium unless they have recharged their shields to a certain threshold again? oh and gratz CVA to your new Outpost Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Keta Min	Posted - 2006.03.05 02:32:00 - [116] Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Dark Shikari If I remember correctly, ISS stated when they built the outpost that they would have enough strontium in system to withstand a one month siege. i thought you cant refill pos's with strontium unless they have recharged their shields to a certain threshold again? oh and gratz CVA to your new Outpost well earned, when will we see fraps?
Conman	Posted - 2006.03.05 02:32:00 - [117] Originally by: pardux Originally by: Ficti0n I dont think BoB would attack ISS. I mean afaik BoB is quite an honourable corp, and i dont see any honour in attacking a neutral corp, which benefits everyone in 0.0, people that are around to help us. you cant be neutral in 0.0 yes you can you just might get shot at by everyone :) I am drunken irish slave hahaha i live
Haxa	Posted - 2006.03.05 03:17:00 - [118] So whens the Press Release comming out saying what happened and the future of Marginis?
Ieyasu Kusanagi	Posted - 2006.03.05 03:22:00 - [119] The map sure is lit up. That's alot of kills in the past few hours. What's going on here? If the outpost has gone down, there's going to be a rather large shockwave.
shivan	Posted - 2006.03.05 03:54:00 - [120] Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Dark Shikari If I remember correctly, ISS stated when they built the outpost that they would have enough strontium in system to withstand a one month siege. i thought you cant refill pos's with strontium unless they have recharged their shields to a certain threshold again? oh and gratz CVA to your new Outpost Simple, put in enough Stront to make the reinforced mode last long enough for the shilds to recharge to the point where you can put in a BUCKET load of stront to make sure the reinforced mode lasts long enough again to put more stront in. ETC ETC ETC. Essentialy, so long as you always have enough stront in the control tower to keep the reinforced mode going long enough to re-fill the CT. Then in theory, its impossable to take out a POS unless you stave it, with perma gate camps and multiply bubbles everywhere. But then you can just use a carrier/titen/dread to jump the fuel in. Oh and congrats on the new outpost CVA
sloany	Posted - 2006.03.05 03:57:00 - [121] Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Dark Shikari If I remember correctly, ISS stated when they built the outpost that they would have enough strontium in system to withstand a one month siege. i thought you cant refill pos's with strontium unless they have recharged their shields to a certain threshold again? Thats right, if I remember right the shields need to be at least 50% to refill strontium.
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.03.05 03:57:00 - [122] Originally by: Ieyasu Kusanagi The map sure is lit up. That's alot of kills in the past few hours. What's going on here? If the outpost has gone down, there's going to be a rather large shockwave. There are always plenty of people in KDF, and very often ships being destroyed, so thats not unusual I assure you. In fact I just led a suicide frig gang in there which accounts for about 10 of the kills you can see :) Just to repeat: There has been no attack on our POS today. ------------------ The ISS Navy is recruiting. See this thread for further details. www.eve-iss.com
Montague Zooma	Posted - 2006.03.05 05:34:00 - [123] CVA rocks! ------------------------------------------------------------------- One noob. One corp. One complete waste of 1.6 million isk.
sksklsss	Posted - 2006.03.05 05:40:00 - [124] CDC working with LV? VIRII working with Shinra? VIRII not -10 no matter where in the universe they are? LOL Your intel is so bad it makes lumpy milk cry. Your intel is so bad it makes Michael Jackson black. Your intel is so bad posting it on the forums makes you look altastic.

Eldo Davip	Posted - 2006.03.05 05:51:00 - [125] Cleaned up the thread of trolls and irrelevant posts. Please keep this thread on topic. Thread moved from Eve General Discussion to Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions Our Website \| forum rules \| [email protected]

Esurnir	Posted - 2006.03.05 08:51:00 - [126] on the last station take over vid. They not had too destroyed the pos, only put them in reinforced mode. -------------------------- On the 8th day. Over created the mods. To have a good laugh.
Mallik Hendrake	Posted - 2006.03.05 11:02:00 - [127] As an investor in ISS marginis, I'd like to suggest that all ISS people keep their damned traps shut on the forums. None of you should ever even /talk/ to any aggressive alliance, much less taunt them and scream nanny nanny booboo. If BOB wanted your outpost, they'd take it with ease, as would almost any of the local groups. In fact, I'd go as far as to suggest a mandatory forum silence in ISS. Not only would it cut back a lot of drivel posted in the forums, it'd keep you guys from letting your big freaking mouths get you in trouble. -------------------------------------------- "A plan is just a list of things that don't happen." -- Parker, _The Way of the Gun_ Mallik Hendrake E X O D U S [I do not speak for E X O or IRON]
Hardin	Posted - 2006.03.05 11:34:00 - [128] Originally by: MrIc3 ISS Margins is now under CVA control I have to say this did make me laugh --------------------------------- Smiting pirates and terrorists since Sept 2003
Hardin	Posted - 2006.03.05 11:41:00 - [129] Edited by: Hardin on 05/03/2006 11:41:37 Oh God - just got done reading the rest of the thread - It really made my day Seriously though CVA has nothing to do with this, amusing though the speculation is --------------------------------- Smiting pirates and terrorists since Sept 2003
Edison Frisk	Posted - 2006.03.05 11:47:00 - [130] Edited by: Edison Frisk on 05/03/2006 11:47:52 nm
Pepperami	Posted - 2006.03.05 12:53:00 - [131] Originally by: shivan Simple, put in enough Stront to make the reinforced mode last long enough for the shilds to recharge to the point where you can put in a BUCKET load of stront to make sure the reinforced mode lasts long enough again to put more stront in. ETC ETC ETC. Erm, I'm fairly certain POS shields do not regenerate when in reinforced mode? [Art of War][- V -]
Esurnir	Posted - 2006.03.05 12:56:00 - [132] I'm also thinking the same. I think it's armor recharging. -------------------------- On the 8th day. Over created the mods. To have a good laugh.
Berrik Radhok	Posted - 2006.03.05 13:16:00 - [133] Originally by: Pepperami Originally by: shivan Simple, put in enough Stront to make the reinforced mode last long enough for the shilds to recharge to the point where you can put in a BUCKET load of stront to make sure the reinforced mode lasts long enough again to put more stront in. ETC ETC ETC. Erm, I'm fairly certain POS shields do not regenerate when in reinforced mode? park alts with logistics ships inside the bubble and use 'em to recharge the shield
Redwolf	Posted - 2006.03.05 13:40:00 - [134] Originally by: Berrik Radhok Originally by: Pepperami Originally by: shivan Simple, put in enough Stront to make the reinforced mode last long enough for the shilds to recharge to the point where you can put in a BUCKET load of stront to make sure the reinforced mode lasts long enough again to put more stront in. ETC ETC ETC. Erm, I'm fairly certain POS shields do not regenerate when in reinforced mode? park alts with logistics ships inside the bubble and use 'em to recharge the shield You cannot lock anything from within the bubble, and you can also not add stront to the pos after it goes into reinforced mode.
Keta Min	Posted - 2006.03.05 13:54:00 - [135] Originally by: Hardin Edited by: Hardin on 05/03/2006 11:41:37 Oh God - just got done reading the rest of the thread - It really made my day Seriously though CVA has nothing to do with this, amusing though the speculation is the real question is: why the denial with so many witnesses? is ISS really expecting to have success with it?
MadGaz	Posted - 2006.03.05 14:33:00 - [136] Seems ISS and IAC are at war. IAC just put down 1 of the large POS in kdf!!
MrIc3	Posted - 2006.03.05 14:33:00 - [137] So what will CVA do with the station now then? Are you planning on moving into the area or are you selling it? And what happend to everyone who had shares in it?
Alta Altastica	Posted - 2006.03.05 14:35:00 - [138] Rumours say that FOE helped CVA take the outpost
Karli Janus	Posted - 2006.03.05 14:42:00 - [139] Edited by: Karli Janus on 05/03/2006 14:42:20 IAC have been coming out in force recently, everyone though the were just a bunch carebears, but that cat on their alliance logo is just a disguiseà They are really bloodthirsty pvpers laying in wait & ISS is their main target. DonÆt believe me?? They have several heavily armed POS in their base system & normally have a dread or 2 floating aroundà
Evoboin	Posted - 2006.03.05 15:06:00 - [140] When are we going to see a Press Release? Ud think if this was all true CVA would want to tell everyone that they conquered Marginis
Shirei	Posted - 2006.03.05 15:19:00 - [141] Edited by: Shirei on 05/03/2006 15:18:56 nm
Redwolf	Posted - 2006.03.05 15:27:00 - [142] Originally by: MrIc3 So what will CVA do with the station now then? Are you planning on moving into the area or are you selling it? And what happend to everyone who had shares in it? I plan to remodel it as a monument to 'The Chin' In honour of the great Amarrian that he is!
Preying Mantis	Posted - 2006.03.05 15:54:00 - [143] Edited by: Preying Mantis on 05/03/2006 15:55:32 Originally by: Karli Janus Edited by: Karli Janus on 05/03/2006 14:42:20 IAC have been coming out in force recently, everyone though the were just a bunch carebears, but that cat on their alliance logo is just a disguiseà They are really bloodthirsty pvpers laying in wait & ISS is their main target. DonÆt believe me?? They have several heavily armed POS in their base system & normally have a dread or 2 floating aroundà Righteo - all i saw when in the alliance was people going back to their posses - maybe they've changed in the last month. They do have a lot of money to replace their losses. But a lot of people seem unwilling to fight. There is also much incompetence and lack of communication.
AvanCade	Posted - 2006.03.05 16:02:00 - [144] BoB has no need for ISS Margins i for one truely support in ISS's endevour to have neutral platform where ppl can be safe and trade as they please. I have seen loads of incursions in force from Curse Coalition. So whatever the rumours of BoB taking the outpost is a whole load of b*****ks.
ODd Anders1	Posted - 2006.03.05 16:34:00 - [145] I also no that iss lost some ships A raven and almost a dread and a carier in the attack. ask "mongo peck" he had the dread and the carrier...
Lord Cyric	Posted - 2006.03.05 16:57:00 - [146] Originally by: Liare i am among a group of SNRA people who cannot accept the presence of VIRII and certain of their members, not that i hate these people directly, but rather what they stand for. Why Ed Bailey what an awful thing to say...does this mean were not friends anymore, cause if I thought you weren't my friend i just don't think I could bear it.
Liare	Posted - 2006.03.05 17:41:00 - [147] Originally by: Lord Cyric Originally by: Liare i am among a group of SNRA people who cannot accept the presence of VIRII and certain of their members, not that i hate these people directly, but rather what they stand for. Why Ed Bailey what an awful thing to say...does this mean were not friends anymore, cause if I thought you weren't my friend i just don't think I could bear it. poor Cyric i know i havent been by with the guys to shoot at you lately, but i dislike the idea of undocking in the current conditions, with my luck im not sure my shiny Crusader will make it. _____________________________ Ex-Coretech, We still shoot people.
Foomanshoe	Posted - 2006.03.05 17:57:00 - [148] Originally by: Akhilesh Kamadev I seriously suggest you employ my intelligence officer and sack yours. There were around 52 pilots in system with a hard copy of said comms. And like it or not, Shinra is named as support. OMG this is the stupidest thing ive read in a long time. Why would a Shinra Director, sack himself, and hire 'your intelligence officer'? Like your guy knows more about what LV is doing then LV leadership does. And the fact that you don't shut up about it makes it worse. _______________________________________________ Deadspace For Dead space! Originally by: Oveur To the nerfmobile!
Liare	Posted - 2006.03.05 18:49:00 - [149] dont stop him please, its always good fun to read at work :) _____________________________ Ex-Coretech, We still shoot people.
Linavin	Posted - 2006.03.05 19:03:00 - [150] Originally by: Karli Janus Edited by: Karli Janus on 05/03/2006 14:42:20 IAC have been coming out in force recently, everyone though the were just a bunch carebears, but that cat on their alliance logo is just a disguiseà They are really bloodthirsty pvpers laying in wait & ISS is their main target. DonÆt believe me?? They have several heavily armed POS in their base system & normally have a dread or 2 floating aroundà --- Originally by: Sarmaul nm, that says lub not lube
elchief	Posted - 2006.03.05 22:45:00 - [151] this thread made me laugh :) iac and iss are not at war we are not killing there pos`s or even trying to take over there outpost. there have been no hostilities between our alliances we are looking for a place to call home in 0.0 not for wars to fight
nickycakes	Posted - 2006.03.06 00:02:00 - [152] george bush doesn't care about iss margins
Marine03112	Posted - 2006.03.06 03:01:00 - [153] I will state that bob was in and around the area for a few days last week. I went to the Iss Station in KDF and was attacked by a old bob member. i did not provoke the attack but was attacked. THis member of the ISS navy did state that he was attacked by multiple bob memebers in zero zero. That doesnt surprise me as we attack any neutrals. I can understand his frustration. Myself personally i knew this guy and talked to him on ts and wouldnt attack someone i new personally. if he attacked me fine i understand the rules of zero zero. its a game hve fun and fight.
Berneh's alt	Posted - 2006.03.06 03:35:00 - [154] right i have read through this thread and all i can say is LOL its comedy in its best form , having flown with the ISSN i can honestly say they they are prepared for any eventuallity(sp balls to it im drunk) Theres some good fighters in there and the iss as a whole are a quite close knit alliance, which means the bacjk thier mates up just like "real alliances that claim territory ect" (not saying iss aint real but you know what i mean) anyway , good luck to ISS and their new owners the CVA , i hope you put a special cushion under siobahns bum (she's my sexxor) Bern
Chain Gang	Posted - 2006.03.06 05:27:00 - [155] Edited by: Chain Gang on 06/03/2006 05:29:51 If you believe anything in this thread then your a complete nublet..... To take over a "Outpost" you need to control the system for a week, something I believe a 1 day old smacktalking thread is not achieving... Move on Noobs
Earthan	Posted - 2006.03.06 10:21:00 - [156] Originally by: Ficti0n I dont think BoB would attack ISS. I mean afaik BoB is quite an honourable corp, and i dont see any honour in attacking a neutral corp, which benefits everyone in 0.0, people that are around to help us. Bobs may have hounour when it comes to fighting, but for having some warm feelings to neutrals and overall prosperityi i wouldnt count on it.You ever read their motto? "nice region we take it" .. ******** "...And thereÆs even some evil mothers Well theyÆre gonna tell you that everything is just dirt ...And that, yÆknow, children are the only ones who blush!And that,life is just to die..."
CRAZY TOWN	Posted - 2006.03.06 13:34:00 - [157] What a rubbish post. Just because you see a fleet in KDF it doens't mean Marginis is under attack. ISS might have a non-aggression policy in KDF - but I doubt a ganking fleet is going to stick to it. Anyone attacking that station would have to be insane anyway - they would become the most hated and soon to be dead corp in all of eve. Get real pple. MAELSTROM ALLIANCE
Laythun	Posted - 2006.03.06 15:57:00 - [158] i heard from my sister's boyfriends brothers cousins mother that plays eve in khazakstan that george bush has found Wmd's with a picture of chuck norris in marginis, so hes attacking it with his alt fleet of dreads piloted by us marines on leave. This is the complete truth. BTW SNRA would NEVAR work with CDC / CC. just ask the peeps in and around doril who's been hanging around there lately. ISD leave my sig alone for the last fking time. you screwed up my sig so face the consequences.
Yuu May	Posted - 2006.03.08 13:44:00 - [159] ...The deception worked!!! I know own ISS Marginis.....Honest!!!
Bhaal	Posted - 2006.03.09 01:54:00 - [160] Edited by: Bhaal on 09/03/2006 01:56:09 I read this entire thread. I have one question. What do the members of BoB have up their asses? Take the damn buttplugs out boys, it might help you loosen up a bit... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
theRaptor	Posted - 2006.03.09 03:41:00 - [161] Originally by: Earthan Originally by: Ficti0n I dont think BoB would attack ISS. I mean afaik BoB is quite an honourable corp, and i dont see any honour in attacking a neutral corp, which benefits everyone in 0.0, people that are around to help us. Bobs may have hounour when it comes to fighting, but for having some warm feelings to neutrals and overall prosperityi i wouldnt count on it.You ever read their motto? "nice region we take it" .. Yeah but do you know how much effort it takes to keep POS online? If BoB took over most of the map like people think they will, then they would have to be 90% hauler pilots to keep all the POS going. I don't think you trust, in, my, self-righteous suicide.
Oni 1	Posted - 2006.03.09 07:31:00 - [162] Originally by: Bhaal Edited by: Bhaal on 09/03/2006 01:56:09 I read this entire thread. I have one question. What do the members of BoB have up their asses? Take the damn buttplugs out boys, it might help you loosen up a bit... QFT
CEO Rockhound	Posted - 2006.03.09 15:55:00 - [163] Quote: Yeah but do you know how much effort it takes to keep POS online? If BoB took over most of the map like people think they will, then they would have to be 90% hauler pilots to keep all the POS going. BOB won't take over all of the map. (temporarily) expanding borders on the other hand?? And when it comes to running POS's.. You have ANY idea about the number of POS's BOB run? The 5-day-claim-souvreignity feature are to stop massive deployment of towers. Put towers to reinforced, and you can take the station. (I am told). To put 1 large POS into reinforced useing 15 dreads, do not take long. Stopping 15 dreads takes effort. You can not pull out a force and just go face them on 30 min notice. Large heavily armed POS's are not all sunshine. They crumble easily under the pressure of dreads, and no controll of your space. And when it comes to neutrality, yes, ISS are neutral. But, when they have a station under theire controll that pays out ISK's to someone you know are your enemy, then that is a valid target, just like a mineing barge. Norsk Gruvedrift. We will rock you.
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.03.09 16:03:00 - [164] Regarding your last paragraph, Rockhound, would it not be fair to say that it is also likely people in friendly corps/alliances will also own ISS shares? I mean, they are open to sale to everyone, you're just as likely to pss off a friend as you are an enemy if you go after the outpost. Its not so much the fact ISS is neutral, its more the fact they don't actually own the outposts - the many shareholders in many powerful alliances do. ------------------ The ISS Navy is recruiting.* See this thread for further details. www.eve-iss.com
Nuala Reece	Posted - 2006.03.09 16:54:00 - [165] This is Eve forums at their best - a 6 page thread on the theme 'nothing happened in KDF today' Be Free Starlancers
Bhaal	Posted - 2006.03.09 17:41:00 - [166] Quote: I mean, they are open to sale to everyone, you're just as likely to p*ss off a friend as you are an enemy if you go after the outpost. Its not so much the fact ISS is neutral, its more the fact they don't actually own the outposts - the many shareholders in many powerful alliances do. So many fail to recognize this fact... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
SpaceDrake Storyteller	Posted - 2006.03.09 19:56:00 - [167] FYI, I have lain siege to Marginis with uber Dual 150s and local spam. I demand Tasessine bow to my will by the end of the day, GMT. -------------- What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward? Player of the character "Andre Ricard".

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