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FooB2
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Posted - 2006.03.05 17:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Karl Shade
Planescape Torment
SIGNED. SIGNED. SIGNED.
i bought that game for ú4 new about 4 years ago off the shelf of some back-alley ****ty game shop, and its one of the best games ive ever played. except FF7, of course.
i still have 4-disc copy right here, but having trouble getting it to work, and i always did.
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2006.03.05 18:32:00 -
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Neverwinger Nights Saga.
Deus Ex (1 & 2).
Star Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic (1 & 2).
Nuff said. 
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Coconut Joe
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Posted - 2006.03.05 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Laocoon
Final Fantasy VII.
No competition.
(Cloud & omnislash ftw \o/ )
yup.
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Kye Kenshin
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Posted - 2006.03.05 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Coconut Joe
Originally by: Laocoon
Final Fantasy VII.
No competition.
(Cloud & omnislash ftw \o/ )
yup.
FFVII wasn't just a game it was like living art!
A true masterpiece.
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Thudders
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Posted - 2006.03.05 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 05/03/2006 13:07:11
Depends on what type of RPG you're referring to.
Non-EVE MMORPG? Earth and Beyond.
Free-form RPG? Morrowind.
Linear RPG? Final Fantasy 7.
Point/click action RPG? Diablo 2.
I hope you were kidding about the Earth and Beyond thing.
That game was so atrocious that I stopped playing it after only a few hours when I was in the Beta. It wasn't even actually 3-Dimensional for gods sake.
There are 2D side-scrollers that I would rather play over E&B. It's seriously one of the worste games I've ever seen, a true testament to the power of EA to create POS games. Hell, I would prefer to play an old school text star-wars MUD.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 05/03/2006 19:28:16
Originally by: Thudders
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 05/03/2006 13:07:11
Depends on what type of RPG you're referring to.
Non-EVE MMORPG? Earth and Beyond.
Free-form RPG? Morrowind.
Linear RPG? Final Fantasy 7.
Point/click action RPG? Diablo 2.
I hope you were kidding about the Earth and Beyond thing.
That game was so atrocious that I stopped playing it after only a few hours when I was in the Beta. It wasn't even actually 3-Dimensional for gods sake.
There are 2D side-scrollers that I would rather play over E&B. It's seriously one of the worste games I've ever seen, a true testament to the power of EA to create POS games. Hell, I would prefer to play an old school text star-wars MUD.
?!?!
What the hell are you talking about? Are you blind? After 3 hours in the beta I knew that it was the best online game I had ever played in my life (at the time, obviously... its been 2 years and EVE is much better currently). Then again, I started in Phase 7--if you entered beta in Phase 2, that would make a lot of sense, as at that point the game hardly existed in the first place. It also sounds as if you haven't actually played the game and you are lying, as EA did not make it; Westwood did. Westwood began E&B's development in 1998, long before EA liquidated Westwood.
It was without a doubt the best "leveling" MMORPG ever made, with very good graphics for its time, a great community, and a great dev team (later neutered by EA). It was nearly bug-free in its final form, had good game mechanics, and did one thing that no game has ever done before or done since:
IT MADE MINING FUN.
Any game that does this has to be lauded as one of the best games of all time. There's a reason a third of EVE is from Earth and Beyond. Insulting E&B as a "bad" game is like insulting Homeworld as a bad RTS, or Final Fantasy VII as a "bad RPG." It is still the pinnacle of its genre, and no game has come close since.
If I had to play a leveling MMORPG, Earth and Beyond would be it without a doubt.
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Thudders
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 05/03/2006 19:23:33
Originally by: Thudders
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 05/03/2006 13:07:11
Depends on what type of RPG you're referring to.
Non-EVE MMORPG? Earth and Beyond.
Free-form RPG? Morrowind.
Linear RPG? Final Fantasy 7.
Point/click action RPG? Diablo 2.
I hope you were kidding about the Earth and Beyond thing.
That game was so atrocious that I stopped playing it after only a few hours when I was in the Beta. It wasn't even actually 3-Dimensional for gods sake.
There are 2D side-scrollers that I would rather play over E&B. It's seriously one of the worste games I've ever seen, a true testament to the power of EA to create POS games. Hell, I would prefer to play an old school text star-wars MUD.
?!?!
What the hell are you talking about? Are you blind? After 3 hours in the beta I knew that it was the best online game I had ever played in my life. Then again, I started in Phase 7--if you entered beta in Phase 2, that would make a lot of sense, as at that point the game hardly existed in the first place.
It was without a doubt the best "leveling" MMORPG ever made, with very good graphics for its time, a great community, and a great dev team (later neutered by EA). It was nearly bug-free in its final form, had good game mechanics, and did one thing that no game has ever done before or done since:
IT MADE MINING FUN.
Any game that does this has to be lauded as one of the best games of all time. There's a reason a third of EVE is from Earth and Beyond. Insulting E&B as a "bad" game is like insulting Homeworld as a bad RTS, or Final Fantasy VII as a "bad RPG." It is still the pinnacle of its genre, and no game has come close since.
If I had to play a leveling MMORPG, Earth and Beyond would be it without a doubt.
Hey, it's cool if you like the game and everything. It's your preference and your preference is your own. There are huge forums of people who enjoy things that other people might think are strange, like F***ing parrots for example. But that's their preference. If you like to play E&B, or F**K parrots, that's your life choice.
There's a reason that E&B didn't make it. The reason is that it was trash. There's a small community that did like it, and decided to move to EVE after it failed.
Here's my E&B experience: I picked a race/character and a ship. I made my ship pretty and shiny. I really liked it. I went "exploring" to get "exploring" XP. I tried out combat. The combat in this game consisted of sitting w/ your ship directly in front of an NPC and "shooting" it. It was basically worse than EQ combat. The game had to have emotes because it wasn't acctually 3D. One of the emotes was a loop. In EVE you do a loop every time you orbit someone. I didn't acctually try the mining, but it HAD to be more fun than the combat or "exploring."
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:44:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 05/03/2006 19:44:05
Originally by: Thudders
There's a reason that E&B didn't make it. The reason is that it was trash. There's a small community that did like it, and decided to move to EVE after it failed.
No, that's wrong. It didn't make it because when EA bought up Westwood, they treated everything not command and conquer as baggage. They never advertised E&B, and cut the development team almost immediately after release. Even only 2 months into the game they had already planned to kill the game.
Originally by: Thudders
Here's my E&B experience: I picked a race/character and a ship. I made my ship pretty and shiny. I really liked it. I went "exploring" to get "exploring" XP. I tried out combat. The combat in this game consisted of sitting w/ your ship directly in front of an NPC and "shooting" it. It was basically worse than EQ combat. The game had to have emotes because it wasn't acctually 3D. One of the emotes was a loop. In EVE you do a loop every time you orbit someone. I didn't acctually try the mining, but it HAD to be more fun than the combat or "exploring."
You seem like you didn't even play past the tutorial. Using your same logic, I will do the same review of EVE.
Here's my EVE experience: I picked a race/character and made my face pretty. I started the tutorial and undocked to go to an asteroid belt to mine. I sat in front of an asteroid for like 15 minutes--it was basically worse than EQ combat. The game had to have warping because it wasn't actually a space game and used a grid system to make up for the fact that most of the systems are empty. I didn't actually try the combat, but it had to be more fun than the mining.
Seriously, your "review" sounds even less informed than Gamespot's review of EVE.
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Thudders
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:55:00 -
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really, my main beef w/ it was that it wasn't 3D.
Any game made in the last 10 years should be 3D.
btw, in your "eve review" you mixed up combat and mining. combat in E&B did remind me quite a bit of EVE mining, though.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 05/03/2006 20:02:56
Originally by: Thudders
really, my main beef w/ it was that it wasn't 3D.
Any game made in the last 10 years should be 3D.
btw, in your "eve review" you mixed up combat and mining. combat in E&B did remind me quite a bit of EVE mining, though.
E&B's combat had so much potential but the PvP was never really developed. The money simply ran out due to EA's budget cuts.
Their single PvP arena they managed to create demonstrated what could have been done. All kinds of tactics were possible (as it was a twitch-based movement system, and there were cloaks and all sorts of cool stuff). But as I said... it came to nothing in the end.
In terms of being 2D--it was not 2D, actually. It had a Z vector, but not as large as X or Y. Thus it was really no different from EVE, where most solar systems are on a long X-Y plane but with a bit of Z axis above.
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Valter Mazda
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:45:00 -
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FFVI IMO. Kefka was such a cool villain with such a cool theme. And there was Locke. Or Shadow. Or Terra... and the others, I forget their names lol. Oh Square, how I miss the old you.
Then of course, there's the multitude of others that have remained in my memory:
FFVII
Chrono Trigger
Morrowind
Golden Sun (Gameboy Advance never looked so gorgeous)
Diablo II (Javazon and cow levels ftw  ... and crappy computer timing out at Baal's minions EVERY SINGLE TIME.)
KotOR I & II
um, etc. 
FF: Adventure had an awesome Boss Fight music for the last boss. I whistle it occasionally out-of-the-blue.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:48:00 -
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I have never played the final fantasy series, keep meaning to. Maybe this easter i will buy a playstation
I never liked morrowind, just never got into it :/
Best is Planescape Torment. Baldurs gate series and the fallout saga. Gonna restart Baldurs gate this summer i think
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: Zaldiri on 05/03/2006 22:21:34
The best overall RPG: BG2
The best story in any RPG: Planescape torment
The best combat RPG: Deus Ex
My favourite freeform RPG: Morrowind
Having said that I can't really think of a single compelling reason why Morrowind was any good. It's setting was brilliant and the over-arcing storyline was very interesting. However, the NPC's were a complete void. The combat was somtimes exciting but most often annoying. It was too easy to steal stuff. Bribes often made no sense (I give you 10 gold, now I can sell my sword to you for 200 gold more, WTF?). The magic system was very nice, but unrefined, especialy alchemy and enchanting. There was a general lack of challange for most of the game. It was buggy. Cliffracers were more annoying than any virtual creation has a right to be. Also there was a little character called Fargoth.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:32:00 -
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Morrowind's main flaw IMO was that thought it was perfectly balanced if you DIDN'T know how to powergame, there were loads of ways to game the system if you knew them.
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Galaxion
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:46:00 -
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IMO.... Final Fantasy X.
Shall I tie myself to that stake over the fire, or would you rather i just passed out and let you stone me?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Galaxion
Shall I tie myself to that stake over the fire, or would you rather i just passed out and let you stone me?
I say we draw and quarter him.
FFX was good in some ways, but a lot of it was unimaginably cheesy.
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Mamarto
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Posted - 2006.03.05 23:01:00 -
[47]
Originally by: hattifnatt
Baldur's Gate 2, Diablo 2, Arcanum (just love this game)
Replace Diablo 2 with Morrowind and you'll have my list.
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Xoria Krint
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Posted - 2006.03.06 00:43:00 -
[48]
Morrowind
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.03.06 04:28:00 -
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Ah the Final Fantasy debat whats better 6 ((3 in america)) or 7, well imo as far as game mechanics and graphics go 7 wins out,7 did have a decent story with some what intriguing story,but 3 ((in america)) story blows 7 to hell and back. The Kefka/Sephiroth compairison is simple,Mad scientist vs. Mass Murder.
My picks....
consule:
1.) FF7 (It took the basic floor plan for quality that 6 laid down and took it to the next level since then all other RPGS have been just mere copies with a different twist))
2.) FF6 ((Story wise the zenith of the FF franchise))
3.) Xenogears (( One of the greatest unsung games of the past 20 years))
PC:
1.) Baulders Gate 2 ((Befor Diablo,Befor NWN,there was BG and it all other PC RPGs bowed down before its magnificence))
2.)Kinghts of The Old Republic (( A great modern RPG,well thought out,well planned,few bugs which is amazing for the SW games, incredibly well written story line.))
3.) Never Winter Nights (( Oh wow where to begin,Baulders Gate serise back in the day was about the best you could get well Black Island kicked it up a notch with NWN,this game was an amazingly open ended game that could be easily adapted into making a persistent universe and using the basic D&D source rules you got a well balanced pvp and pve system,well so long as you have a 20th level cap on leveling after that Clerics are just too powerful, I HIGHLY recommend buying this game))
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2006.03.06 05:58:00 -
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Warhammer Fantasy.
Remind me about The Maze.
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Thudders
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Posted - 2006.03.06 06:31:00 -
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Shining Force I & II
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Aryth
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Posted - 2006.03.06 08:06:00 -
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Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy VII, Morrowind, kotor I and II
And hopefully I will be able to add oblivion to this list in the near future (that is after I get it on the 21st and spend the next few years of my life playing it and the mods that people will no doubt develop...holy crap imagine the Tamriel Rebuilt project using the oblivion construction set?!?!?! /me pees pants).
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.03.06 10:45:00 -
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Combat in Earth & Beyond rocked, formation flying, and especially the big encounters where incredibly fun, and while taking a long time never got boring. As a JE ( 150+22 ) You needed a good guild though, wasn't exactly the most populair class to have along. It a lot of things right, and if EA hadn't fecked it over it could have been a awesome game.
My Line up.
PC true RPG: Planescape Torment, Baldur's Gate series, Fallout series, Fable, Neverwinter Nights.
PC action RPG: Diablo II, Fate.
PC MMORPG: Earth and Beyond, World of Warcraft ( it didn't do everything bad ;-) ) RF Online.
Consoles: Final Fantasy series, Wild Arms. And Drakengard for action.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.03.06 10:48:00 -
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Drakengaurd was really good,Square made a great counter to the Dynasty Warriors serise with it,I loved the game mechanics and besides who wouldn't want to fly around on a dragon nuking everything on the ground?
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Gabel
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Posted - 2006.03.06 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Uuldahan
Fallout series by far.
Lol i remember finding the UFO and getting the alien blaster in Fallout 1 :D
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Calistoph
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Posted - 2006.03.06 11:18:00 -
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Anachronox. I like my Sci-Fi, and i like my humour. Just a shame that it took so long for them to produce a patch that fixed many of the potentially game breaking errors and problems. It didn't help that it was almost directly in the wake of Daikatana and Ion Storms reputation wasn't doing very well.
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Celador Nane
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Posted - 2006.03.06 11:47:00 -
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Bioforge.... without a doubt one of the best games ive ever played. (ye old pc games will remember this one only probs)
And UFO enemy unknown, tho i know its not RPG, i just wanted to pimp of the best games ever. 
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2006.03.06 11:48:00 -
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#1 = Deus Ex, nothing else has ever come close.
Originally by: Avon
I actually enjoy crafting in EQ2.
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jason hill
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Posted - 2006.03.06 11:53:00 -
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not played any other online role playing games other than eve tbh  ...but i did used to love playing a game called the 7th guest ..that was a rolplay-ish typey game
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Xeaon
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Posted - 2006.03.06 12:08:00 -
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pokTmon \o/
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