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Novacrow
Blue Tridents
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 19:41:00 -
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I kind of hate missioning. Typically for money I either trade/produce/and rat, but lately I have been thinking of a plan that will require me to get standings with an npc corp for refining benefits. I don't want to really use a battleship because it gets boring and can be slow especially on missions where I have to burn to certain points. So my question is this:
If I am in amarr space, which command ship will do the best for me? I have t2 projectiles, hybrids, lasers, and HAM missiles (no heavy II missiles). My initial thoughts was to look at probably the sleipnir, but I bought a vulture last night and really like the range that ship has. The damage profile of a railgun vulture worries me a bit though. Is a sleipnir a better fit? I would be trading damage projection for the ability to adjust damage type. Has anyone given this much thought? |
Cage Man
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Posted - 2013.12.10 20:38:00 -
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They do work, but are much slower to complete the missions in than a BS. You probably better of blitzing lvl3's in them. Its always good to match you ships damage bonus to the NPC you are shooting.
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Jeicam Mmis
BEEFCO.
Disband.
57
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Posted - 2013.12.10 20:44:00 -
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eos is a nice drone boat these days. and resist profile matches your application. |
Veronica Kerrigan
Hand Of Midas
My Other Laboratory is a Distillery
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Posted - 2013.12.10 20:53:00 -
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The Sleipnir is a beast against Amarr rats, not only because it has variable damage type, meaning you can always deal the proper type, it also has monstrously high EM/thermal resists. A basic deadspace large or XL shield booster and an AB will laugh at almost anything that uses lasers to shoot you. I ran a 425mm setup, but I have seen artillery setups be good as well. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
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Posted - 2013.12.10 21:00:00 -
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if sleipnir is up for consideration, and you don't want to be a slow, then why the heck not a machariel? Unless you're on like a 400m budget or something, it'll give you more dps, more range, and more speed then just about any CS.
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Novacrow
Blue Tridents
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 21:11:00 -
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Batelle wrote:if sleipnir is up for consideration, and you don't want to be a slow, then why the heck not a machariel? Unless you're on like a 400m budget or something, it'll give you more dps, more range, and more speed then just about any CS.
It would be, but I do not have the skills for it just yet, and as you mentioned it is rather expensive. My ratting ship isn't even a pirate ship, just a navy geddon. |
Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries
Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:31:00 -
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As I see it the main issue with command ships is that they get a very large amount of their damage and/or damage application from the Command Ships skill itself.
As a rank 8 will/per skill you could have trained racial BS V in slightly less time on a standard per/will remap and gotten far more bang for your training time unless you also plan to be a fleet booster a lot. As the racial BS skill will improve the three T1 BS hulls, any pirate hulls that share that race, and paves the way for marauders and black ops. |
Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2013.12.11 01:24:00 -
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Nighthawk, but only if you have T2 Heavy Missiles trained (which I gather you do not) otherwise, do not use a command ship for missions.
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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:27:00 -
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I used an Arty Sleipnir to test it out (Usually I just use a Mach).
It didn't take much to get the tank over 1000dps but the guns max out at 750dps, and the range is 17km out to 43km with my particular setup and skills (Trained to 5s all around). I used a MWD to make up for the range issues and it can comfortably cruise around sites at 1200m/s.
So can it do LVL-4's? Yes with ease.
It's not faster than a well trained BS, but it's faster than a T-3 or BC for sure.
[Sleipnir, Artillery]
5x 720mm Howitzer Artillery II (Quake M)
2x Automated Targeting Unit I (Couldn't think of anything else to fit in here)
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster (Navy Cap Booster 400)
Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster (Scan Resolution Script)
Federation Navy Tracking Computer (Optimal Range Script)
Corelum A-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive
Damage Control II
4x Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
[Statistics - Goldiiee]
Effective HP: 45,288 (Eve: 35,812)
Tank Ability: 1,182.85 DPS
Shield Resists - EM: 84.69%, Ex: 69.38%, Ki: 74.77%, Th: 75.50%
Capacitor (Lasts 7m 10s)
Volley Damage: 7,274.86
DPS: 756.63
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Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:30:00 -
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If you are doing it for refining I highly suggest doing distribution agents.
If you want the refining to happen at a trade hub and must do combat and hate battleships I highly recommend the Gila.
I know it's not a command ship but it can hang with L4's while putting out large amounts of damage using HAM's. |
Gh0stBust3rs
Wraith Shadow Guards
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.12.11 07:14:00 -
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of all the command ships the nighthawk and sleipner are the only 2 that can pve well. THe boosts to the Eos make it alot better as well.
Abso is out done by any laser bs or the legion. |
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