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Jill Chastot
Modulated Dreams AAA Citizens
32
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:01:00 -
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Wait so why is being afk "bad"
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Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
617
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:04:00 -
[32] - Quote
Shadow Love wrote:Hey, nice module. It makes AFK mining harder for AFK miners. Good thing they can't just not fit that module.
Oh wait, they could just not fit the module since you know, there is no benefit whatsoever to having it.
HERP DERP.
Did you read the OP?
Not having the module would cut your yield by 50%. AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3382
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:09:00 -
[33] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:Shadow Love wrote:Hey, nice module. It makes AFK mining harder for AFK miners. Good thing they can't just not fit that module.
Oh wait, they could just not fit the module since you know, there is no benefit whatsoever to having it.
HERP DERP. Did you read the OP? Not having the module would cut your yield by 50%.
Explain to me how that going to matter to anyone in the least. You're AFK, FFS! Anything you mine while watching The Walking Dead is gravy.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Shadow Love
Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations
90
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:10:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Shadow Love wrote:Hey, nice module. It makes AFK mining harder for AFK miners. Good thing they can't just not fit that module.
Oh wait, they could just not fit the module since you know, there is no benefit whatsoever to having it.
HERP DERP. Did you read the OP? Not having the module would cut your yield by 50%.
Honestly no I did not read your OP fully, I just scanned it and made a kneejerk post ridiculuing your idea because there are dozens of other things in EVE that are worth the dev time to fix other than this. You caught me. |

Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
617
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:11:00 -
[35] - Quote
Shadow Love wrote:Xuixien wrote:Shadow Love wrote:Hey, nice module. It makes AFK mining harder for AFK miners. Good thing they can't just not fit that module.
Oh wait, they could just not fit the module since you know, there is no benefit whatsoever to having it.
HERP DERP. Did you read the OP? Not having the module would cut your yield by 50%. Honestly no I did not read your OP fully, I just scanned it and made a kneejerk post ridiculuing your idea because there are dozens of other things in EVE that are worth the dev time to fix other than this. You caught me.
It would literally take hundreds of manhours to implement this idea. AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required. |

Cyber SGB
Bionetic Creations
30
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:14:00 -
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I'm still trying to figure out what these afk miners are doing, that harms the game for these so-called pvpers.
Why aren't these pvpers, pvping, instead of flying around watching to see if a miner is afk or not?
I guess I'm not suppose to go pee, until I finish filling up the ore hold of my retriever. I write Kindle books. Visit my author page. http://amazon.com/author/sgbynum |

Shadow Love
Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations
90
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:18:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:
It would literally take hundreds of manhours to implement this idea.
Considering the glacial pace at which CCP works (No offense CCP), an entire expansion would revolve around this one minor change that benefits no one and satisfies only a few forum warriors who would quickly find some other random thing to demonize. So yeah, waste of time, you're right. |

Casanunda
Church Of The Eternal Cosmic Confidence Trick
120
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:23:00 -
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Cyber SGB wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what these afk miners are doing, that harms the game for these so-called pvpers.
Why aren't these pvpers, pvping, instead of flying around watching to see if a miner is afk or not?
I guess I'm not suppose to go pee, until I finish filling up the ore hold of my retriever.
PvP includes removing the ships of those who can't be arsed to actually play the game from space, via the medium of glorious explosions. It's not particularly high brow PvP but it's still PvP.
The fact that I am not a gazillionaire Gallente aristocrat with the sexual capacity of a rutting rhino is a constant niggle. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3386
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:31:00 -
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Casanunda wrote:Cyber SGB wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what these afk miners are doing, that harms the game for these so-called pvpers.
Why aren't these pvpers, pvping, instead of flying around watching to see if a miner is afk or not?
I guess I'm not suppose to go pee, until I finish filling up the ore hold of my retriever. PvP includes removing the ships of those who can't be arsed to actually play the game from space, via the medium of glorious explosions. It's not particularly high brow PvP but it's still PvP.
I can empty a system and keep it empty while AFK in null. No explosions, glorious or otherwise. Just quietly cloaked.
Not particularly high brow PvP, but it's still PvP. If you accept that as a mechanic, and plenty do, then there is nothing wrong with being AFK in a belt.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Kw1jybo
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:34:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:Xuixien wrote:I just had a lightbulb go off.
What if every barge got an extra high slot, which was a "hardpoint" for a certain module.
Call it the "Harvester Yield Actuation Device" or something.
It has a 1 minute cycle and does not repeat. When it's on, your mining yield is normal (what it currently is). When it's offline, your mining yield drops in half.
Miners who wanted to AFK would get **** income and thus not AFK as much.
Genius.
INB4 this has already been suggested. Nobody would ever be clever enough to rig up something to press the F1 button after [x] duration of time. Botting is illegal. Botting is illegal, afk mining is not. There is a huge difference between having a bot which warps in and out and docks for you and warping to an ice belt, orbit belt, press F1, then come back in 1/2 hour. |

Casanunda
Church Of The Eternal Cosmic Confidence Trick
120
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:38:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I can empty a system and keep it empty while AFK in null. No explosions, glorious or otherwise. Just quietly cloaked. Not particularly high brow PvP, but it's still PvP. If you accept that as a mechanic, and plenty do, then there is nothing wrong with being AFK in a belt. Mr Epeen  Never said there was AFK cloaking is a valid playstyle, the only people that make a hoohah about it are the ones that dock or POS up because they're afraid of someone that may or may not be there. Likewise AFK mining is a valid playstyle, but the people who do it have to accept the risk of someone removing their ship and occasionally relocating their clone for them.
The fact that I am not a gazillionaire Gallente aristocrat with the sexual capacity of a rutting rhino is a constant niggle. |

Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
351
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:39:00 -
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Pheota Sansu wrote:I am in no way defending afk miners, I dont do it myself, on the rare occasions I do mine I am at the screen. But what all these people dont realise is that if all the miners stopped mining, like so many people seem to want, where would the minerals for your ships come from? Reprocessing scrap only gives so much.
I keep hearing this but hisec is only a source of trit pyerite mexallon isogen. Your nocxium megacyte n zyd are from low n null. Or repro'd mission loot. Read a thread years ago citing stats that most value of mins comes from repro mission loot. Bulk of the low price stuff is mined, but bulk of the valuable stuff is repro'd or shipped in from null. No i don't have graphs but would love to see some, mining in hisec is terrible money even if boosted and maxed out.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Aih-Li Tahn
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:47:00 -
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they can remove afk mnining when they remove afk cloaking and easymode pvp, k? |

Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
618
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:48:00 -
[44] - Quote
Aih-Li Tahn wrote:they can remove afk mnining when they remove afk cloaking and easymode pvp, k?
What is "easymode pvp"? AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required. |

Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1204
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Posted - 2013.12.10 23:49:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:I just had a lightbulb go off.
Yes your lighbulb clearly went OFF.
When it goes on, post something thats a 3 year old can't get around. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

NEONOVUS
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
539
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Posted - 2013.12.10 23:51:00 -
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Remind me why AFK mining is wrong and gate camps arent? They both wait for a light cycle to finish then get goodies. |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2347
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Posted - 2013.12.10 23:57:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Xuixien wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:Xuixien wrote:I just had a lightbulb go off.
What if every barge got an extra high slot, which was a "hardpoint" for a certain module.
Call it the "Harvester Yield Actuation Device" or something.
It has a 1 minute cycle and does not repeat. When it's on, your mining yield is normal (what it currently is). When it's offline, your mining yield drops in half.
Miners who wanted to AFK would get **** income and thus not AFK as much.
Genius.
INB4 this has already been suggested. Nobody would ever be clever enough to rig up something to press the F1 button after [x] duration of time. Botting is illegal. Boting is software, having a mechanical device press the key isn't. "You may not use macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play."
I think having a device press a key for you every 61 seconds would not be considered ordinary Game play.
I also think that CCP would never ever implement something like this. If CCP had an issue with AFK game play they never would have added the autopilot. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
622
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Posted - 2013.12.10 23:59:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Xuixien wrote:I just had a lightbulb go off.
Yes your lighbulb clearly went OFF. When it goes on, post something thats a 3 year old can't get around.
You're the only one who caught that!
+1 to you sir! AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required. |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2347
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Posted - 2013.12.11 00:08:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Pheota Sansu wrote:I am in no way defending afk miners, I dont do it myself, on the rare occasions I do mine I am at the screen. But what all these people dont realise is that if all the miners stopped mining, like so many people seem to want, where would the minerals for your ships come from? Reprocessing scrap only gives so much. I keep hearing this but hisec is only a source of trit pyerite mexallon isogen. Your nocxium megacyte n zyd are from low n null. Or repro'd mission loot. Read a thread years ago citing stats that most value of mins comes from repro mission loot. Bulk of the low price stuff is mined, but bulk of the valuable stuff is repro'd or shipped in from null. No i don't have graphs but would love to see some, mining in hisec is terrible money even if boosted and maxed out. Nocx also comes from Pyerite, which is in High sec. Also in high sec you can sometimes get the J and H ores that produce Zydrene. So in fact only Megacyte and Morphite require low or 0.0. Also CCP changed the loot drops so these days most minerals come from mining. A few years ago you were right, loot did produce alot on minerals. But those days are gone.
But that's not the point: If all mining stopped it would also stop in Null. That's what "All" means. Under that case we would have a severe mineral shortage. I'm sure if everyone did missions for reprocessed loot we could keep things going at some level. But that's just mining in a different way. Why would it be better?
Also if AFK mining is bad, its also bad in Null. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Irya Boone
TIPIAKS
275
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Posted - 2013.12.11 00:29:00 -
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To end afk mining
*Increase Dps of rat like sentries of gate ( more dps every cycle)
*Remove Aggressive mode of drones.
*Make Asteroids orbiting something ... like in real universe so you have to run after your "Precious".
An in counter part increase concord response. to almost instant in high sec. RENAME null sec systems With the name of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It will be awesome. Need Black Ops be able to FIT cover ops cloaking device !!! |

Katran Luftschreck
1678
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Posted - 2013.12.11 00:36:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Botting is illegal.
Which is why all those Falcons camped on every nullsec entry gate on the map is manned by wide awake human beings 23/7 all year round, right?
Puhleeze. You're not fooling anyone.
The reality is the nullbears only hate certain bots - namely, the one's that hisec miners use. Their own bots, well, those are sacrosanct. We certainly can't get rid of those, EvE would implode!
Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5295
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Posted - 2013.12.11 00:41:00 -
[52] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Xuixien wrote:Botting is illegal. Which is why all those Falcons camped on every nullsec entry gate on the map is manned by wide awake human beings 23/7 all year round, right? Puhleeze. You're not fooling anyone. Falcons camped on every nullsec entry gate on the map?
Puhleeze. You're not fooling anyone. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
788
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Posted - 2013.12.11 00:54:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:Xuixien wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:Xuixien wrote:I just had a lightbulb go off.
What if every barge got an extra high slot, which was a "hardpoint" for a certain module.
Call it the "Harvester Yield Actuation Device" or something.
It has a 1 minute cycle and does not repeat. When it's on, your mining yield is normal (what it currently is). When it's offline, your mining yield drops in half.
Miners who wanted to AFK would get **** income and thus not AFK as much.
Genius.
INB4 this has already been suggested. Nobody would ever be clever enough to rig up something to press the F1 button after [x] duration of time. Botting is illegal. Boting is software, having a mechanical device press the key isn't. "You may not use macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play." I think having a device press a key for you every 61 seconds would not be considered ordinary Game play. I also think that CCP would never ever implement something like this. If CCP had an issue with AFK game play they never would have added the autopilot.
It's not a macro, stored keystroke or a pattern of play, it's an engineering device. I can totally use a water fountain that has a bamboo stick filling up and moving down as the weight of water is too much and then spring back up just press F1 in my keyboard. For all we know, it will fail once in a blue moon making it look even less like a bot than most ADHD human would be if they mined at the keyboard. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15830
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Posted - 2013.12.11 01:44:00 -
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What exactly is wrong with AFK mining? They have to return to the keyboard in order to continue their activity and they run a higher risk of getting ganked.
Also, I'll quote someone from CCP on this very subject.
CCP Sreegs wrote:If you are aware of a way for miners to mine AFK with no third party programs 24 hours a day without being at their machines and managing cargo then I'm all ears.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Seven Koskanaiken
Sons Of Saints Circle-Of-Two
562
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Posted - 2013.12.11 01:54:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Xuixien wrote:Botting is illegal. Which is why all those Falcons camped on every nullsec entry gate on the map is manned by wide awake human beings 23/7 all year round, right? Puhleeze. You're not fooling anyone. The reality is the nullbears only hate certain bots - namely, the one's that hisec miners use. Their own bots, well, those are sacrosanct. We certainly can't get rid of those, EvE would implode!
Whaaaaaa... |

Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
624
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Posted - 2013.12.11 01:58:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Whaaaaaa...
Yeah, that one surprised even me.
AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required. |

James Nikolas Tesla
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:11:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:I just had a lightbulb go off.
What if every barge got an extra high slot, which was a "hardpoint" for a certain module.
Call it the "Harvester Yield Actuation Device" or something.
It has a 1 minute cycle and does not repeat. When it's on, your mining yield is normal (what it currently is). When it's offline, your mining yield drops in half.
Miners who wanted to AFK would get **** income and thus not AFK as much.
Genius.
INB4 this has already been suggested. Which miner got on your bad side for you to go through all of this trouble to try and regulate how we do our mining? Do you need a hug? |

Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
627
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:24:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Xuixien wrote:I just had a lightbulb go off.
What if every barge got an extra high slot, which was a "hardpoint" for a certain module.
Call it the "Harvester Yield Actuation Device" or something.
It has a 1 minute cycle and does not repeat. When it's on, your mining yield is normal (what it currently is). When it's offline, your mining yield drops in half.
Miners who wanted to AFK would get **** income and thus not AFK as much.
Genius.
INB4 this has already been suggested. Which miner got on your bad side for you to go through all of this trouble to try and regulate how we do our mining? Do you need a hug?
Hey where do you mine I'll come join you. AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required. |

James Nikolas Tesla
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:00:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Xuixien wrote:I just had a lightbulb go off.
What if every barge got an extra high slot, which was a "hardpoint" for a certain module.
Call it the "Harvester Yield Actuation Device" or something.
It has a 1 minute cycle and does not repeat. When it's on, your mining yield is normal (what it currently is). When it's offline, your mining yield drops in half.
Miners who wanted to AFK would get **** income and thus not AFK as much.
Genius.
INB4 this has already been suggested. Which miner got on your bad side for you to go through all of this trouble to try and regulate how we do our mining? Do you need a hug? Hey where do you mine I'll come join you. Ranielles |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6869
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:06:00 -
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GUYS I HAD THE PERFECT IDEA TO ELIMINATE AFK MINING WHAT IF MINING BARGES/EXHUMERS ORE BAYS WERE LIMITED TO SOME FINITE AMOUNT Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
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