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dead dude
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Posted - 2003.09.07 04:28:00 -
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the answer is no they are not getting rid of the pirates and they never while. they say that they are making a difference but really all that they are doing is killing a couple of people. they will never get rid of the pirates. the pirates will get rid of them. and soon terroist like stunts will start up against them.
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Tristan
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Posted - 2003.09.07 04:29:00 -
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And in other threads you tell us you arent a pirate.
im going to shoot you some.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.07 04:30:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 07/09/2003 04:30:49
They are pirates, *duh* and exploiters since one of many thousands of bugs in this game makes that they don't suffer security status hits when they pod people they manages to fool down to Stain.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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dead dude
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Posted - 2003.09.07 04:31:00 -
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i am not a pirate i am just telling you what i believe about them and what i have heard from other people.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.07 04:36:00 -
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I'm a pirate, I'm honest about it, SA isen't because if they were, people might want to PvP them. (Hint: They die like flies)
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Tristan
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Posted - 2003.09.07 04:37:00 -
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That they wont kill the pirates?
You seem awfull sure of that, and awfull supportive of the pirates.
skills, please go spout at someone who cares. you are like those crazy fools who stand in town with a sandwhich board telling us all how we are going to hell for being evil little siners and how the world is going to end.
-- You make a lot of noise, but nobody is listening to the crap you spout.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.07 04:43:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 07/09/2003 04:44:54
Oh yes Tristan, I'm a 2nd char from a SA corp and I try to do the same thing everyone else are doing to TTi, ie. mailing bull**** aka slander without any proof whatsoever. (Ad Honimem arguments don't count, *beeeep* sorry for you)
If I can't fight you, I'll report you, got it?
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Leellu Multipass
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Posted - 2003.09.07 07:08:00 -
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Stain Alliance are the pirates.
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Andrew Jade
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Posted - 2003.09.07 11:12:00 -
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Well within the Stain Region there is no pirates, those that are there are hunted down. The stain alliance is about securing the Stain Region, we're not there to hunt down and kill pirates outside the area. MASS and Everlasting have been taking down pirate blockades in other regions, but its not a Stain directive. So saying we wont get rid of the pirates is misinformed. Just ask MOo and sinister their blockades have been stopped for the last 3 days by Everlasting and before that by MASS. Whether they were docked or having to run around a system doesnt matter, they couldnt control the gates so travelers could get through.
Of course we wont get rid of pirates, cimply upset their routine enough to stop innocents getting podded.
-AJ-
WTB: Large faction smartbomb with good range. Top isk paid.
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Mitch Taylor
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Posted - 2003.09.07 11:13:00 -
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Thalen Mort
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Posted - 2003.09.07 11:41:00 -
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I am curious as to why people seem to think we are a pirate corp...In fact we have a history of helping to break pirate blockades in the DSS to HED areas. We also have a history of fighting pirates.
We headed into Stain in the very beginning in frigates and small cruisers and with a lot of hard work were able to forage a living there. We formed an alliance out of mutual need with others in the area for protection from "pirate" corps and were able to push them from the area.
Now when others who were not part of the painfull process of being the "frontier" corperations that took their losses in the beginning just want to come and take advantage of the protection we provided with our fellow alliance members. They want to mine and Trade and set up bases here. There are many non-stain corps that have obtained permission to hunt npc's and conduct operations here under permit. But they first come through proper channels and obtain that permission first. Others totally disregard the proper channels and decide to enter and are surprised when they meet resistance. By getting a permit we know who is in the region which better allows us to "police" the area from pirate blockades/attacks etc.
I do not believe this makes one a "Pirate" as we are only defending our ships and people from pirate attack....
Although we do head into other areas of space to attack pirate corps, our first priority is to protect the stain region from them.
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Nephlite
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Posted - 2003.09.07 15:29:00 -
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Umm didn't Stain have several wars with RUS who are longstanding allies of Moo/Sinister (atleast they run operations together).
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.09.07 17:58:00 -
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stain is b0rk
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Thalen Mort
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Posted - 2003.09.07 18:14:00 -
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What happened to the articulate Stavros we have come to know so well.....c'mon Stav.....Bork? thats it?
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Edward Preble
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Posted - 2003.09.07 18:46:00 -
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The reason that Stain is commonly seen as a pirate organization is varied--but mainly because Stain isn't very consistent.
I've had polite and diplomatic talks with MASS representatives who were helpful and considerate, and I've heard about Stain wiping out the event fleet which joined in to fight the Jovians (if you're going to declare the loot just yours, fine, but give *advance* warning, don't invite people to it).
Everlasting and MASS may help ***** blockades in HED (not unlike CFS) but the Collective recently pirated a CFSN battleship in the area, on its way home.
As long as there are SA members committing piracy, and/or remains inconsistent in its policy, it'll have a hard time breaking that image.
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Edward Preble
Coalition of Free Stars
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.09.08 02:49:00 -
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Everyone has a little pirate in them
http://www.talklikeapirate.com/
um..Me hardys..ARRRRRRR.
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Rust
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Posted - 2003.09.08 10:09:00 -
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The reason that Stain is commonly seen as a pirate organization is varied--but mainly because Stain isn't very consistent.
I've had polite and diplomatic talks with MASS representatives who were helpful and considerate, and I've heard about Stain wiping out the event fleet which joined in to fight the Jovians (if you're going to declare the loot just yours, fine, but give *advance* warning, don't invite people to it).
Everlasting and MASS may help ***** blockades in HED (not unlike CFS) but the Collective recently pirated a CFSN battleship in the area, on its way home.
As long as there are SA members committing piracy, and/or remains inconsistent in its policy, it'll have a hard time breaking that image.
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The Jove situation was very difficult for us. We thought that the Joves would spread themselves out over Stain, playing hide and seek with those hunting them. I helped where I could to organise non SA people into their own fleets, and made it clear that SA fleets wanted to fight by themselves.
This worked to some extent in the early fights, and loot went to non SA people.
The final fight also took us by surprise - we saw in the news that the Jovians would be bringing PC corps with them, and only realised this was true when we got messages from the Jovians they were coming to wipe us out - and saw great blobs moving towards us on the map. We also knew that RUS were gathering to attack us.
Stain is a non empire 0.0 area - we can be attacked by anyone, without warning and with no concequences to them. We had to tell all non SA people to leave or be considered enemies. In fact the majority that stayed were there to try and kill us - but some innocent people were no doubt killed.
Now time has passed and I hope tempers cooled a little - how would your Corps have handled it differently? Edward, I think you are responsible for defending your members, and I imagine you are finding that is not easy to do - and have everyone like you.
Killing pirates does not make you a good person - many pirate corps fight amongst themselves. Many good people do not kill pirates.
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Ar'leich Grade
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Posted - 2003.09.08 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Ar'leich Grade on 08/09/2003 10:52:40
In the beginning the corps now known as Stain alliance were subjected to a harsh world and allied together to push the pirate corps out of Stain.
Now the new corps in eve are subjected to a harsh world and are forced to ally together to push the pk'ing corporations of the Stain alliance out of Stain. lol.
This has no bearing on reality and is purely a fictional observation.
When on the battlefield, if you try not to let others take the lead and have the sole intention of breaking into the enemy lines, then you will not fall behind others, your mind will become fierce, and you will mainfest martial valor. Furthermore, if you are slain in battle, you should be resolved to have your corpse facing the enemy. |
GFLTorque
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Posted - 2003.09.08 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: GFLTorque on 08/09/2003 13:32:19
While we dont make our list of Non-Stain members who have good ratings with Stain public, it would surprise many of you to know it is a very long list. If you saw our list of "enemies" it is a much shorter list, and includes an extremely high percentage of pirates, ore steelers, and griefers that for some reason dont hang out in Stain.
All one has to do is pull up the "ship destroyed in last 24 hours" graphic to see that few ships are destroyed in Stain. Unless of course theres been a visit from RUS, or one of our other enemies.
Why do many people dislike Stain? Probably its due to the combined might of Stain, and the perception that we could somehow police the entire Eve universe if we only set our minds to it. This is not realistic. Like Rust has eloquently stated, we protect our own first. If you fly into a Stain sector where we have Indies, 0.0 space doesnt allow us to rely on Concord or Gate Sentry Guns to protect them. After all, it takes 30 Seconds to enter a sector - with few belts - and warp into an Asteroid belt where in Indy is and kill it.
In that time, we have to contact you, assess your intentions, and then react if we deem its neccessary. Does that mean we are perfect? Of course not.
Still I ask you this, Who complains about SA the most... RUS? Skillz? M3G4? Sinister?
Hrmmmm - Frankly if thats who the chief whiners are I'd rather say we've done pretty well.
4 out of 3 people have trouble with fractions
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.08 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 08/09/2003 14:42:10
Stain is b0rk
Geez, I've been promoted!!
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RUS? Skillz? M3G4? Sinister?
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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EvilWezal
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Posted - 2003.09.08 17:35:00 -
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I recently join HMMI, they are part of the Stain Alliance. We set out patrols about every hour to look for pirates and RUS. We also clear out NPC Pirates so noobz(like me) can mine in safety. So far I havnt heard any talk about Pirating.
Also, We ask you to leave before you get shot at 
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.08 17:58:00 -
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Too bad that diden't help poor Jana Othel, give her my regards by the way.
m0o0oooooo0ooo
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2003.09.09 12:13:00 -
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Well skillz, from my point of view, it looks like that u are ass licking m0o... so why not join it? then we have a chance to kill you, so we dont end up camping a station to get you...?!
And what is it that u hate about stain? u a evil person  ! u get others to join our stain channels... to do sabotage!
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.09 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 09/09/2003 19:14:35
Oh, Skillz 'steals' public channels? How do you do that btw?
Yes, I and a few others got the newbies to come to your b0rk-channel and ask for free civilian shield boosters.
So sue me. 
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Ends
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Posted - 2003.09.09 16:19:00 -
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Stain is one of the better govts. in the game. They work to provide a good standard of living for their members. They vary from pirates in so far as they work for law and order as opposed to chaos and greif for indvidualy decadent desires for fun at others expense. They have also not sought to expand and claim more territory to lock others out of. They got Stain when the game first came out, and I for one have no problem with a lawful and soverien govt that keeps its land exclusive when compared to alliances that utilize pirate corps, or claim land and ruin the quality of life there in doing so.
This being said however, the issue of chopping down everyone that wanders into HED or other trade routes along the way to stain is very much like pirating. At the minimum its a statement of claiming space to kill non pirates, such as our CFS Navy ship that was cut down there. Its unwise to generate bad relations for no more reason that they can't be bothered to sort out who they are killing when securing trade routes into Stain. Regardless of weather M.A.S.S. and others clearing those trade routes indescriminatly has the support of the Stain Alliance it most surely reflects upon the alliance.
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crice
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Posted - 2003.09.09 17:58:00 -
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Quote:
I am curious as to why people seem to think we are a pirate corp...In fact we have a history of helping to break pirate blockades in the DSS to HED areas. We also have a history of fighting pirates.
We headed into Stain in the very beginning in frigates and small cruisers and with a lot of hard work were able to forage a living there. We formed an alliance out of mutual need with others in the area for protection from "pirate" corps and were able to push them from the area.
Now when others who were not part of the painfull process of being the "frontier" corperations that took their losses in the beginning just want to come and take advantage of the protection we provided with our fellow alliance members. They want to mine and Trade and set up bases here. There are many non-stain corps that have obtained permission to hunt npc's and conduct operations here under permit. But they first come through proper channels and obtain that permission first. Others totally disregard the proper channels and decide to enter and are surprised when they meet resistance. By getting a permit we know who is in the region which better allows us to "police" the area from pirate blockades/attacks etc.
I do not believe this makes one a "Pirate" as we are only defending our ships and people from pirate attack....
Although we do head into other areas of space to attack pirate corps, our first priority is to protect the stain region from them.
WEll how do you get a pass to Stain?
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.09 19:16:00 -
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Stain is b0rk, anyone that does not believe that can go and put the mining lasers on a bistot rock.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.09 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 09/09/2003 19:26:11
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WEll how do you get a pass to Stain?
By applying for one.
Then the CEOs of the corps in Stain can discuss whether they want to allow your corp a hunting pass. The lists of corp standings can then be updated so that all the members of SA can be able to check that you do have a pass when they stumble upon you.
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EvilWezal
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Posted - 2003.09.09 23:05:00 -
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Jana is already back in a BS.
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dead dude
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Posted - 2003.09.10 03:22:00 -
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hey, GM'S could you please get rid of this whole thread. i do not want it up anymore, thanks
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.10 13:09:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 10/09/2003 13:13:26
How nice for Jana. Does she mine scordite with it or is it perhaps omber?
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Drakmarr V
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Posted - 2003.09.10 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Drakmarr V on 10/09/2003 13:27:52
*locked per request of creator
- Drakmarr VonDimus MacBanyon
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