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Morijah d'Hanguest
Ishtirak d'Hanguest
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:28:00 -
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In the Name of the Lord
To Whom it May Concern,
as a result of the hostilities expressed by the leadership of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris [PIE] towards the direction of Her Grace The Duchess, Ishtirak d'Hanguest [ISHITI], which acts as the capsuleer branch of the Duchy of Palas, has declared war on the aforementioned alliance to protect and honour the dignity of Her Grace The Duchess, and all His MajestyGÇÖs subjects, and to punish the crime of heresy and l+¿se-majest+¬.
As judged requisite by Her Grace The Duchess, all commanders of the Ducal Palasian Squadron [DPS], its attached mercenary forces, and all captains of civilian vessels are authorised and instructed to subdue, seize and take any armed vessel of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris which shall be found within the jurisdictional limits of the Duchy of Palas, or elsewhere.
Yours sincerely,
Morijah dGÇÖHanguest
Ducal Chancellor
Concordia, Integritas, Industria |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
2437
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:31:00 -
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It is, in the parlance of the creche, on. |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
3637
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Posted - 2013.12.18 16:19:00 -
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PIE is in Bleak Lands...and you guys are waaay out by Khanid right?...would there even be a fight??
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
2439
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Posted - 2013.12.18 16:52:00 -
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Given their hiring of mercenaries, there will at least be a fight by proxy. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
1224
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Posted - 2013.12.18 16:55:00 -
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So the woman who once made sex holoreels for fun and profit is accusing PIE of evil-doing and heresy? 
Not that I have any love for PIE and their ossified leadership but, wow. This seems like the very definition of hypocrisy.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
3637
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Posted - 2013.12.18 17:00:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Given their hiring of mercenaries, there will at least be a fight by proxy.
So their dec is just posturing and grandstanding?
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Lyn Farel
Kitzless
647
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Posted - 2013.12.18 19:26:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:So the woman who once made sex holoreels for fun and profit is accusing PIE of evil-doing and heresy? Not that I have any love for PIE and their ossified leadership but, wow. This seems like the very definition of hypocrisy.
Actually, that is very old fashioned Amarrian...
Though couldn't it be solved by one of those judicial duels ? |
Claudia Osyn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.12.18 21:13:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Given their hiring of mercenaries, there will at least be a fight by proxy. So their dec is just posturing and grandstanding?
They posted it in the IGS. It's all about grandstanding here. |
Constantin Baracca
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Posted - 2013.12.18 21:18:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Given their hiring of mercenaries, there will at least be a fight by proxy.
By the by, and because I don't really have need of these things myself, how much does it cost to hire a mercenary band to annoy your enemies? You would think that financing someone's group of, I'm assuming, well-trained and coordinated capsuleer pilots would be more than they could collectively make fighting in other theaters of warfare. In the areas PIE frequents, you would think that would drive up the price.
"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
-Matthew 16:26 |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
2444
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Posted - 2013.12.18 21:28:00 -
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I'm not sure, Constantin. To be honest the only PMC I've worked for is Pyre and we're on a long-term secured contract at the bidding of our shareholders.
Ask Jude, he's carried out two contracts to my knowledge, so he must know what to charge. |
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5522
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Posted - 2013.12.18 23:31:00 -
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Terms vary. Usually, a contracting party will cover war declaration fees, a regular recurring fee for the mercenary group, and possibly bonuses for kills. It's also possible that, when mercenaries are used to corset existing forces, said mercenaries will negotiate for some amount of logistical support or participation in any existing ship-replacement program.
As always, contracts vary widely with respect to negotiated terms and probable difficulty.
Were I, for instance, retaining a force to provide additional capital support for an existing force in null security space, I very much expect they'd request SRP compensation in case of an unsuccessful operation. On the other hand, if the mercenaries are operating independently under a CONCORD-sanctioned military action in secure space, I very much doubt SRP would be an option.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1766
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:03:00 -
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Please post battle reports - if your side actually decides to "capsule up" and undock. |
Stalking Mantis
In Exile.
Imperial Outlaws.
377
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:04:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Please post battle reports - if your side actually decides to "capsule up" and undock.
Doctrine wars.........
They sure don't make em like the old Wolfsbrigade / Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive war anymore that's for sure. |
Sofia Roseburn
True Slave Foundations
Shaktipat Revelators
87
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:12:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Please post battle reports - if your side actually decides to "capsule up" and undock. Doctrine wars......... They sure don't make em like the old Wolfsbrigade / Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive war anymore that's for sure.
Cripple fights don't count.
Go back further. The Star Fraction versus The Kimtoro Directive. That's a war.
If only we had more people like Launette Vylier. |
Kaid Hayden
Seven Stars Search and Rescue
79
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:43:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:So the woman who once made sex holoreels for fun and profit is accusing PIE of evil-doing and heresy? Not that I have any love for PIE and their ossified leadership but, wow. This seems like the very definition of hypocrisy.
Hey, don't judge, we've all been young and broke and desperate to pay off debts when some slimey dude in a suit and with an Impetus business card asks you if you'd like to make some quick and easy dough - I mean, I haven't. But I've heard of people who have. Like -
Wait, a war? Oh, snap. |
Anatole Madullier
Alexylva Paradox
165
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Posted - 2013.12.19 15:14:00 -
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Kaid Hayden wrote:- I mean, I haven't. But I've heard of people who have. Like -
Dude, are you sure you didn't play the kitchen drone repair guy in Who Wants to Ball a Millionaire?
aÑÉ |
Claudia Osyn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.12.19 18:25:00 -
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Anatole Madullier wrote:Kaid Hayden wrote:- I mean, I haven't. But I've heard of people who have. Like - Dude, are you sure you didn't play the kitchen drone repair guy in Who Wants to Ball a Millionaire?
Naaa, it was Amarr Amore 3: Slave Satisfaction. I'm sure of it. |
Kaid Hayden
Seven Stars Search and Rescue
81
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Posted - 2013.12.19 18:28:00 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Anatole Madullier wrote:Kaid Hayden wrote:- I mean, I haven't. But I've heard of people who have. Like - Dude, are you sure you didn't play the kitchen drone repair guy in Who Wants to Ball a Millionaire? Naaa, it was Amarr Amore 3: Slave Satisfaction. I'm sure of it.
IGS bullying is a crime! |
Claudia Osyn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.12.19 18:53:00 -
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Kaid Hayden wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Anatole Madullier wrote:Kaid Hayden wrote:- I mean, I haven't. But I've heard of people who have. Like - Dude, are you sure you didn't play the kitchen drone repair guy in Who Wants to Ball a Millionaire? Naaa, it was Amarr Amore 3: Slave Satisfaction. I'm sure of it. IGS bullying is a crime!
Not bullying, it was a fantastic film won, 3 intergalactic Adult entertainment awards. Kudos. |
Zelarrs Elkoth
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
81
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:45:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:So the woman who once made sex holoreels for fun and profit is accusing PIE of evil-doing and heresy? Not that I have any love for PIE and their ossified leadership but, wow. This seems like the very definition of hypocrisy.
In the Duchess' defense, I believe that the story is that the release was not condoned on her part. "Leaked" holo as it were. So the profit accusation may be off the mark.
Morijah d'Hanguest wrote:In the Name of the Lord To Whom it May Concern, as a result of the hostilities expressed by the leadership of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris [PIE] towards the direction of Her Grace The Duchess, Ishtirak d'Hanguest [ISHTI], which acts as the capsuleer branch of the Duchy of Palas, has declared war on the aforementioned alliance to protect and honour the dignity of Her Grace The Duchess, and all His MajestyGÇÖs subjects, and to punish the crime of heresy and l+¿se-majest+¬. As judged requisite by Her Grace The Duchess, all commanders of the Ducal Palasian Squadron [DPS], its attached mercenary forces, and all captains of civilian vessels are authorised and instructed to subdue, seize and take any armed vessel of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris which shall be found within the jurisdictional limits of the Duchy of Palas, or elsewhere. Yours sincerely, Morijah dGÇÖHanguest Ducal Chancellor
I was wondering if there would be an IGS post for this. Thought it likely.
Your capsuleer branch seems to have one pilot in it. Surely that's a CONCORD error?
Hrmm and we are now heretics?
Your "Grace" posts a screed against the institutions of the Empire and Orthodoxy:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=281488&find=unread
...takes umbrage at Amarrians taking umbrage, by all accounts hires a corp apparently largely populated by minmatar brigands and sani sabuk to wardec us, and we are the heretics? Perhaps that is a poor choice of words on your part?
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Captain, Head of Diplomacy, Recruiting Officer
Contact on channel: "PIE Public"
"I walk the razor's edge of embracing the future while protecting what we value of the past." |
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1778
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:58:00 -
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Any battle reports yet? |
Morijah d'Hanguest
Ishtirak d'Hanguest
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Posted - 2013.12.19 21:32:00 -
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In the Name of the Lord
Elkoth,
it is hilarious that some idiot appointed you diplomat! But does it matter as long as your pilots are dying? [Just open the GÇ£War ReportGÇ¥ tab in your NeoCom and you will find an up to date list of casualties, X Gallentius.]
It is known to be one of your favourite pastimes to post links and make unfounded claims, but you can rest assured that we chose every word deliberately. Your alliance which harshly rejected any arbitration attempts just a few weeks ago, now expresses the disposition to meet at the negotiation table. Maybe a little more beating and you will beg to be knighted by Her Grace?
Yours sincerely,
Morijah dGÇÖHanguest
Ducal Chancellor
Concordia, Integritas, Industria |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera
JIHADASQUAD
1236
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Posted - 2013.12.19 21:32:00 -
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Zelarrs Elkoth wrote:
...takes umbrage at Amarrians taking umbrage, by all accounts hires a corp apparently largely populated by minmatar brigands and sani sabuk to wardec us, and we are the heretics? Perhaps that is a poor choice of words on your part?
Sister Strife resigned from the mercenary organization prior to their current contract; there's no Sabik in that group so far as I know at least.
And stop calling Odeyla a Heretic, we don't want her.
X Gallentius wrote:Any battle reports yet?
Yes, a few destroyed PIE vessels.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Zelarrs Elkoth
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
81
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Posted - 2013.12.19 21:47:00 -
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Morijah d'Hanguest wrote:In the Name of the Lord Elkoth, it is hilarious that some idiot appointed you diplomat! But does it matter as long as your pilots are dying? [Just open the GÇ£War ReportGÇ¥ tab in your NeoCom and you will find an up to date list of casualties, X Gallentius.] It is known to be one of your favourite pastimes to post links and make unfounded claims, but you can rest assured that we chose every word deliberately. Your alliance which harshly rejected any arbitration attempts just a few weeks ago, now expresses the disposition to meet at the negotiation table. Maybe a little more beating and you will beg to be knighted by Her Grace? Yours sincerely, Morijah dGÇÖHanguest Ducal Chancellor
Ah yes I must be an idiot, since I was not aware refusing to enter into arbitration was grounds for heresy.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Captain, Head of Diplomacy, Recruiting Officer
Contact on channel: "PIE Public"
"I walk the razor's edge of embracing the future while protecting what we value of the past." |
Morijah d'Hanguest
Ishtirak d'Hanguest
20
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Posted - 2013.12.19 21:57:00 -
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Zelarrs Elkoth wrote:
Ah yes I must be an idiot, since I was not aware refusing to enter into arbitration was grounds for heresy.
In the Name of the Lord
I don't know to say what you are, but the one or ones who appointed someone to the position of diplomat who doesn't even get the meaning and content of a simple message, clearly are idiots.
I wish I had some colours for you:
[information a] It is known to be one of your favourite pastimes to post links and make unfounded claims, but you can rest assured that we chose every word deliberately. [information b [new!]:] Your alliance which harshly rejected any arbitration attempts just a few weeks ago, now expresses the disposition to meet at the negotiation table.
Maybe I could have said: It is interesting that... [b], It surprises us that... [b], Isn't it funny that... [b]
Got it now? Maybe you should read the links you post.
Yours sincerely,
Morijah dGÇÖHanguest
Ducal Chancellor
Concordia, Integritas, Industria |
Zelarrs Elkoth
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
81
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Posted - 2013.12.19 22:00:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Zelarrs Elkoth wrote:
...takes umbrage at Amarrians taking umbrage, by all accounts hires a corp apparently largely populated by minmatar brigands and sani sabuk to wardec us, and we are the heretics? Perhaps that is a poor choice of words on your part?
Sister Strife resigned from the mercenary organization prior to their current contract; there's no Sabik in that group so far as I know at least. And stop calling Odeyla a Heretic, we don't want her. X Gallentius wrote:Any battle reports yet? Yes, a few destroyed PIE vessels.
Indeed, it appears two minor engagements were fought and lost.
Our pilots are still concentrating on the Crusade, we aren't really seeking out these fights, thus far. So I presume they were targets of opportunity.
You may note, I didn't call Odelya a heretic. She is calling us heretics. Since you've not said the same to d'Hanguest, I guess it's our company you crave?
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Captain, Head of Diplomacy, Recruiting Officer
Contact on channel: "PIE Public"
"I walk the razor's edge of embracing the future while protecting what we value of the past." |
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
257
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Posted - 2013.12.19 22:02:00 -
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Don't forget the combat anecdotes as well. Those are fun to read, as long as they're decent and concise.
Silas Vitalia wrote:
And stop calling Odeyla a Heretic, we don't want her.
That's funny, I thought Sani Sabik considered True Faith Amarrians heretics.
Or has it become some kind of an angsty status symbol these days?
- Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim
___________________________
Angels are never far...
Stillwater Corporation recruitment open. |
Zelarrs Elkoth
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
81
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Posted - 2013.12.19 22:06:00 -
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Morijah d'Hanguest wrote:
Elkoth,
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Your alliance which harshly rejected any arbitration attempts just a few weeks ago, now expresses the disposition to meet at the negotiation table.
I've always been open to discussion. When I received an invitation to talk it seemed right to continue that policy.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Captain, Head of Diplomacy, Recruiting Officer
Contact on channel: "PIE Public"
"I walk the razor's edge of embracing the future while protecting what we value of the past." |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera
JIHADASQUAD
1236
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Posted - 2013.12.19 22:16:00 -
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Leopold Caine wrote:Don't forget the combat anecdotes as well. Those are fun to read, as long as they're decent and concise. Silas Vitalia wrote:
And stop calling Odeyla a Heretic, we don't want her.
That's funny, I thought Sani Sabik considered True Faith Amarrians heretics. Or has it become some kind of an angsty status symbol these days?
The point of reference matters.
Much like I imagine PIE would not consider it accurate if I were to call Odeyla an Imperial Loyalist .
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera
JIHADASQUAD
1236
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Posted - 2013.12.19 22:18:00 -
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Zelarrs Elkoth wrote: I guess it's our company you crave?
I miss a few of you a great deal, actually.
My affections might take a different form but I do love all of you.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
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