Now I come back after a hiatus, and I can't get a mag site above 65% with 4 sisters core probes in a rigged cov ops ship, with 4/5 level skills?

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As subject says. First they do a ninja patch on it to make it harder to scan, just because one dev over there thought it was a good idea for extra probes past 4 probes to make a difference, even though all it does is make the screen EVEN MORE CLUTTERED and a pain in the ass to use.

Now I come back after a hiatus, and I can't get a mag site above 65% with 4 sisters core probes in a rigged cov ops ship, with 4/5 level skills?

This is annoying. QUIT NINJA PATCHING A PERFECTLY GOOD SYSTEM.

Four in a square, one in the centre, all on the same level and then one above and one below. I usually just go the five probes, four in a square and one in the centre.

Four in a square, one in the centre, all on the same level and then one above and one below. I usually just go the five probes, four in a square and one in the centre.

As subject says. First they do a ninja patch on it to make it harder to scan, just because one dev over there thought it was a good idea for extra probes past 4 probes to make a difference, even though all it does is make the screen EVEN MORE CLUTTERED and a pain in the ass to use.

Now I come back after a hiatus, and I can't get a mag site above 65% with 4 sisters core probes in a rigged cov ops ship, with 4/5 level skills?

This is annoying. QUIT NINJA PATCHING A PERFECTLY GOOD SYSTEM.

You are bad at scanning.
You now need 6 probes to get the same strength as 4 probes, previously.
If you use 7 or 8 probes, scanning is easier than before.

Also, use the alt-key.
Finally, stop posting.

Thank you.

No ninja patches. OP just sucks at scanning. Astrometrics 5 (for survey probes), rangefinding 3, pinpointing 4 (only because I hate having the sigs jump around) on an unbonuses ship and using only 4 sister's core probes, I have no problem finding any signature. In fact, I lock most sigs at 0.5 AU. Only the really small stuff or best sites do I ahve to reduce range to 0.25. Practice moar instead of crying to CCP to make it easier. Probing is already very easy.

Above approach works very well, and is easy to implement. I've been trying to figure out an 8-probe config that works better, but haven't yet.

It takes no more time than moving one probe. Select all probes, hold... shift I think? It's so reflexive now I don't even rememeber. Anyway, shift-dragging moves all probes at once. Then alt-dragging moves all probes around the center probe outward or inward from the center probe. It's freaking easy.

Hi there. I'm the dev you're talking about. I don't think I've made much of a secret that I changed the formulas, but allow me to hit the motivations more for ya.

The scanning system was not a perfectly good system. When scanning in a highly populated system, the request would take many seconds of execution time due to poor scaling of the calculations backing it. In a world when we usually talk about things in thousandths of a second, a system eating up many seconds is a severe problem.

Allowing more than four probes to count solved one of the scaling problems. In the previous system, the "best four" probes for any given scan result were used, and due to some of the intricacies involved that meant calculating everything out for every combination of four probes. With all 8 probes in range, that's 70 combinations to compute for every result. If some day the fine folks over in design ever think allowing a 9th would be a good idea, that would have taken the worse case up to 126. Scaling with the factorial like that is plainly not acceptable.

So, I redid the formulas. They scale a ton better now and are loosely balanced to have 6 probes give about the same result as 4 used to, given reasonable geometric layout, as observed by posters above. Probe 7 and 8 are gravy.

So, I redid the formulas. They scale a ton better now and are loosely balanced to have 6 probes give about the same result as 4 used to, given reasonable geometric layout, as observed by posters above. Probe 7 and 8 are gravy.

The scanning system was not a perfectly good system. When scanning in a highly populated system, the request would take many seconds of execution time due to poor scaling of the calculations backing it. In a world when we usually talk about things in thousandths of a second, a system eating up many seconds is a severe problem.

Does this apply to combat probes too?

In that case it's a nerf to combat probing and you should consider decreasing the deploytime of of combatprobes.