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Fellhahn
Fell Research
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Posted - 2013.12.20 00:39:00 -
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FOR ATTN: EvE Store marketing/management (I guess)
I'm currently going through the bullsh*t hoop jumping of trying to buy Amazon digital products from a country outside of the USA. (having to VPN stateside and use a fake address then hope my credit card doesn't screw me over)
Amazon are currently selling plex and game time for 15% off as a Christmas sale.
WHY is this sale not mirrored in the EvE account management? Where all capsuleers from all countries can access it most easily.
Why, as a paying subscriber who pays the same price to play as anyone from any other country (excusing serenity perhaps), am I prevented from accessing these lower rates at Amazon based on nothing more than my country of residence? A product that isn't physical and has no shipping or manufacturing costs to speak of.
True, this may be a result of a blanket digital products policy on the part of Amazon. But if this is the case then any sale on EvE digital items on Amazon need to be matched in price when buying the same item through account management.
EvE is a global DIGITAL product and should not be subject to prejudicial pricing based on country.
http://www.amazon.com/12-Months-Subscription-Online-Instant/dp/B00GDHDB14/ref=sr_1_11?s=software&ie=UTF8&qid=1387499103&sr=1-11&keywords=eve+online |
Paranoid Loyd
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.20 00:43:00 -
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I think you need to look up the definition of Prejudicial.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2013.12.20 00:47:00 -
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Also Fraud is bad. |
Magna Mortem
The Scope
Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2013.12.20 00:47:00 -
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When you as a company buy a huge amount of things from wholesale, you get it cheaper. Are you seriously telling us that the wholeseller should just sell to everyone at that lowered price, even single unit orders only?
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Magna Mortem
The Scope
Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2013.12.20 00:52:00 -
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Oh wait here's a different one.
You are complaining about a company that buys lotsofthings for a cheapr price and then decides on their own who they want to sell it to? You also believe that CCP should officially cicumvent these restrictions (which aren't their business) or FORCE amazon to make this deal available to the global public? Are you nuts? |
Magna Mortem
The Scope
Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2013.12.20 00:54:00 -
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I have a last one. Simple.
Why in hell do you believe it's any of CCPs business what amazon does with their PLEX? |
Logical 101
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.20 02:28:00 -
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That's big money. Like, almost two cheeseburgers.
Maybe even two whole cheeseburgers.
Life is so unfair, huh? |
Boomhaur
162
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Posted - 2013.12.20 03:03:00 -
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Wait there are people who don't PLEX their accounts  .
Anyway that is what $3 by US standards. So that is not one but 2 whole cheeseburgers off the dollar menu, it be 3 if he finds some change due to tax. That's big money. I say we burn Jita in protest over this  .
Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you. |
GreenSeed
789
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Posted - 2013.12.20 03:08:00 -
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Amazon is doing the sale, and what you are doing is fraud. |
Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.12.20 03:47:00 -
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Boomhaur wrote:Wait there are people who don't PLEX their accounts
For every one person PLEX'ing their account, there is one person buying a PLEX from CCP. |
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
59
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:37:00 -
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Software and digital items are not the one price world wide. Even the "official Microsoft" price for Microsoft Office can be three or four times more expensive in one country compared to somewhere else. |
Anya Klibor
Error-404
Cup Of ConKrete.
565
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Posted - 2013.12.20 05:12:00 -
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I'm confused...if a third-party retailer is selling items it purchases from the original retailer for 15% less than what the retailer is selling it for, then why is it somehow wrong? Seriously, would you entitled little Euro ***** stop being brats and act your gorram age? |
Paranoid Loyd
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
140
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Posted - 2013.12.20 05:21:00 -
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nvm |
Tasiv Deka
End-of-Line
113
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Posted - 2013.12.20 06:54:00 -
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Polite answer: Op you are an idiot its not CCP doing the sale its Amazon
Troll Answer: Lol U MAD bro
Dealing with RL bullshit and doesnt want to sugar coat anything answer: OP you are an idiot who wants to whine and ***** and **** and moan because you dont take the 30 seconds to use that thing ontop of your shoulders to realize that CCP has no power with what an authorized third party does with thier merchandise. Do us a favor and quit Eve it will raise the average IQ by quite a bit... and no I dont even want your stuff
Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts...-á
The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth. |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1193
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Posted - 2013.12.20 07:07:00 -
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In these wonderful United States of America, we experience 365 days of freedom, democracy, and being American. If you would like to know more about how to enjoy the benefits of being American and not needing to circumvent your autocratic regimes to sample our fine wares on our fine websites based in our fine webhosting bunkers run by companies that enjoy both freedom and democracy, I would suggest visiting your local United States of America consulate.
That or, maybe, you know...understanding that Amazon.co.uk or amazon.whatevercountrythatisntamericahahahayoudumbschmuck you use can do the same sales if they want to, its a third party site doing the sales.
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword |
Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
3075
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Posted - 2013.12.20 07:27:00 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:I'm confused...if a third-party retailer is selling items it purchases from the original retailer for 15% less than what the retailer is selling it for, then why is it somehow wrong? Seriously, would you entitled little Euro ***** stop being brats and act your gorram age?
Hey! Not all Ameri-
oh.
P.S. You get a like for use of the word gorram.
The Drake is a Lie |
Zaius Caltar
Solitude Mine and Sale
9
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Posted - 2013.12.20 07:43:00 -
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Got this message from OP...
Forum help
From: Fellhahn Fell Research
Sent: 2013.12.20 04:32
To: Zaius Caltar
Hey mate I saw your forum thread in general discussion about the cheap christmas gifts from ccp. I will side with you and help you against the fanboys. In return I hope u can give me a hand in my thread here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=306212
Appreciated. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3448
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Posted - 2013.12.20 07:49:00 -
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Fellhahn wrote:
Why, as a paying subscriber...
It seems to me that if you were actually a subscriber, you would have no need to complain about PLEX prices. PLEX are for people that are not subscribed.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1063
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Posted - 2013.12.20 07:57:00 -
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Magna Mortem wrote:Oh wait here's a different one.
You are complaining about a company that buys lotsofthings for a cheapr price and then decides on their own who they want to sell it to? You also believe that CCP should officially cicumvent these restrictions (which aren't their business) or FORCE amazon to make this deal available to the global public? Are you nuts?
It should be available to everyone through Amazon yeah. As an Aussie I'm tired of getting gouged for anything digital, that goes for 100% extra for software, music, games...
I used to buy stuff before I found out how we were being ripped off, now I use Piratebay. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
1419
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Posted - 2013.12.20 08:42:00 -
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So, this is all about cheeseburgers?
Really OP?
*sigh*
Are you a DEV?-áStuck working on Christmas day?
Feeling all...BAH HUMBUG! and wanna blow something up?
I'm offering a DEV to blow up my "Yule Gifted fitted Gnosis" on Christmas day!
Feel free to msg me for more info! |
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embrel
BamBam Inc.
81
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:09:00 -
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Boomhaur wrote:Wait there are people who don't PLEX their accounts . Anyway that is what $3 by US standards. So that is not one but 2 whole cheeseburgers off the dollar menu, it be 3 if he finds some change due to tax. That's big money. I say we burn Jita in protest over this .
Unfortunately, in my place it's not even one burger.
However, OP has a point.
And does Amazon indeed buy and pay for these before reselling. I somehow doubt it. |
embrel
BamBam Inc.
81
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:10:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:Amazon is doing the sale, and what you are doing is fraud.
Uuuhhh sounds dangerous. Doesn't it need a victim to be a fraud? |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
Home Front Coalition
821
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:10:00 -
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Fellhahn wrote:EvE is a global DIGITAL product and should not be subject to prejudicial pricing based on country.
Big business and patents keep back the development of medicine against a many serious illnesses, ranging from AIDS to cancer, screwing millions of people out of medicine because they don't have the money to please the fat hoarders of this world. Your problems with local pricing are quite marginal to be honest. You did some groceries but the other store had the items cheaper. Baaaaaaw. |
embrel
BamBam Inc.
81
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:11:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Software and digital items are not the one price world wide. Even the "official Microsoft" price for Microsoft Office can be three or four times more expensive in one country compared to somewhere else.
Correct & I hate it. |
embrel
BamBam Inc.
81
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:12:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Fellhahn wrote:EvE is a global DIGITAL product and should not be subject to prejudicial pricing based on country. Big business and patents keep back the development of medicine against a many serious illnesses, ranging from AIDS to cancer, screwing millions of people out of medicine because they don't have the money to please the fat hoarders of this world. Your problems with local pricing are quite marginal to be honest. You did some groceries but the other store had the items cheaper. Baaaaaaw.
Please explain in detail how they're doing that. |
Tasiv Deka
End-of-Line
113
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:14:00 -
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embrel wrote:Boomhaur wrote:Wait there are people who don't PLEX their accounts . Anyway that is what $3 by US standards. So that is not one but 2 whole cheeseburgers off the dollar menu, it be 3 if he finds some change due to tax. That's big money. I say we burn Jita in protest over this . Unfortunately, in my place it's not even one burger. However, OP has a point. And does Amazon indeed buy and pay for these before reselling. I somehow doubt it.
tinfoil hat to 5 for this guy...
Amazon buys them in bulk and therefore gets a huge discount on them (same thing with microsoft points and memberships and etc) which means they can sell 10 at regular price or sell even more at a lower price and make less of a profit per item but sell more item and with digital things its as simple as sending a code out
Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts...-á
The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
1419
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:50:00 -
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embrel wrote:Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Fellhahn wrote:EvE is a global DIGITAL product and should not be subject to prejudicial pricing based on country. Big business and patents keep back the development of medicine against a many serious illnesses, ranging from AIDS to cancer, screwing millions of people out of medicine because they don't have the money to please the fat hoarders of this world. Your problems with local pricing are quite marginal to be honest. You did some groceries but the other store had the items cheaper. Baaaaaaw. Please explain in detail how they're doing that.
You make more money keeping a patient sick and on drugs that surpresses a disease for his entire life.
You make far less money if you give the patient the cure, which is a one shot deal.
The world is run on economics and not goodwill...sadly
Are you a DEV?-áStuck working on Christmas day?
Feeling all...BAH HUMBUG! and wanna blow something up?
I'm offering a DEV to blow up my "Yule Gifted fitted Gnosis" on Christmas day!
Feel free to msg me for more info! |
Mr Pragmatic
805
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:54:00 -
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Grrrr, those Chinese get their plex even CHEAPER! Not FAIR! I demand we institute Chinese style of gov't so we TOO can have cheap plex.
Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness. -á-Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling. |
Ultrique
The Hellsing Institute
1
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Posted - 2013.12.20 11:14:00 -
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Actually you can use it to your advantage...
If you pay in GBP (as it currently shows on the plex page) it's 6 plex for 90 GBP, if I purchase this in Australia (where I am now) that currently converts to about 160 AUD... if you buy the 6 plex from amazon currently it's about 90 USD, converts to roughly 110 AUD... that's a BIG difference!
As to purchasing it... easy enough you get a mate in the US you know and trust to purchase it and transfer the cash via wire transfer.
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
581
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Posted - 2013.12.20 11:19:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Software and digital items are not the one price world wide. Even the "official Microsoft" price for Microsoft Office can be three or four times more expensive in one country compared to somewhere else. Fortunately the 'unofficial' price is the same worldwide.
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