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Nebuli Caldari Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.09.16 20:40:00 - [31] Yes nanophoon sucks, forget it everyone and go back to cookie cutter set up plzkthx. Nothing to see here, move along CEO - Art of War
Fi Minxia	Posted - 2006.09.16 22:24:00 - [32] What do you nanophoon pilots do against webber drones? Its feels like they could really **** on your chips.
Testicular Testes	Posted - 2006.09.16 22:34:00 - [33] Edited by: Testicular Testes on 16/09/2006 22:34:42 Originally by: Murukan Originally by: Zephirz nanophoon = fotm? doubtful. I mean people will try but they will most likely fail with it as you need good drone/nav/missle skills, and usually people only stick with fotm's when the ship only requires excellence in one field. It's also not that cheap, at 80m for the hull, ~25m in nanos and 20m in an MWD. Sure, way cheaper than a Vagabond after insurance but alot trickier to fly (no room for stabs, no innate cruiser bonuses). As for a Typhoon not making a good tackler - the highest scanresolution of any BS would say otherwise. It'll get 2 points on most cruisers, or 1 point with a sensorbooster on even fast cruisers. It also competes with the bumpageddon for biggest speed/mass impact. That's like free -9 if you're not afraid of getting webbed.
Areconus	Posted - 2006.09.17 03:29:00 - [34] Edited by: Areconus on 17/09/2006 03:29:35
Areconus	Posted - 2006.09.17 03:31:00 - [35] Edited by: Areconus on 17/09/2006 03:30:49 EHE DELETE ME
Valtirix Gallente Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.09.17 03:33:00 - [36] Originally by: zwerg just wanted to help in and then a c r a c k smokin' player who got a name of a ORE wTF?! comes in and tell you that youre a complete noob, i mean come on Hello Zwerg, soo....i heard u stole some money from the corp a while back or am i mistaken?
Jones Maloy Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.18 04:24:00 - [37] man i want to try out one of these things. they look so fun. and damn they are fast. do mwd's have the same icon as afterburners? cause that was going a bit too fast and using too much cap to be an afterburner.
Siakel	Posted - 2006.09.18 04:38:00 - [38] Originally by: Jones Maloy man i want to try out one of these things. they look so fun. and damn they are fast. do mwd's have the same icon as afterburners? cause that was going a bit too fast and using too much cap to be an afterburner. Yeah, they use the same Icon, and yeah, the Nanophoon in that video is using a MWD.
Foulis Minmatar Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.18 04:49:00 - [39] Scordite has the right idea. That setup works rather nicely. For some nice footage of the nano-phoon in action try Kaars video... Linkage ---- Cake > Pie - Imaran Cathath > Imaran - Cathath Originally by: CCP Hammer Boobies
Marc deBourgogne	Posted - 2006.09.18 17:28:00 - [40] Edited by: Marc deBourgogne on 18/09/2006 17:29:37 Originally by: Scordite Originally by: zwerg Forget Nano-Phoon, the phoon is definetly a tanking goddes. Not what this thread is about. People are asking about nanophoon. Originally by: zwerg I mean okay okay you can come in range quickly with that nanos, but a BS for tackling?! uuuhhm bit expensive?! Buy a Rifter and tackle with it. Nanophoon is not a tackler, it's a 1vs1 ship mainly. the purpose of the nanos is not to get in range, but to stay OUT of range, and move fast enough for turrets to not track and missiles to do little damage. Also, it breaks tanks rather easily, and is pretty much untouchable when flown right. Originally by: zwerg Well then i tried the nano fitting, yeh got destroyed by a dominix. I'll assume he was pvp fitted with loads of nos and heavy tank. If he had guns mainly, you only lost because you messed up. So, assuming pvp setup, did you use your drones to kill his? That's his only firepower, take it out and you can take your time killing him. Your booster and 4x nos goes a long way to counter his nossing, and you have 4 torp launchers and a bunch of drones for dps. Unless you actually let him kill your drones and fail to kill his, you should be good, though it might take some time. Hell, even if you're losing, you're loads faster than him, just mwd out and warp. Originally by: zwerg MMkayn, now my m8 was with me in crow, he warped in scrambled i warped in done dmg and tank. My fitting was following: 4x Cruise Missle Launchers [ Arby ] 4x Dual 650mm II Auto's 1x Patterned Statis Web, 2x ECM - Multispectral Jammer II, 1x Heavy Cap Injector 2x LAR II, EXP,KIN,THER actives all tech II, 1600mm Plate and Ballistic Control Unit II 5 Ogre's I 5 Hammerhead's II the amazing thing on the phoon is that you can totally choose your damage. I was having following in my weapons: Cruise: 2x Paradise Cruise Missles I 2x Wrath Cruise Missles I Dual 650: 2x Phased Plasma, 2x Barrage/Hail* only in orbit and when succesfully jammed. We've done great with that uberpwnmobile. Completely off topic. Originally by:* Murehk As far as im aware... Highs. 4 NOS, 4 Seige, Meds. MWD, scram, and not sure. Lows. Nano's. No, the question was about the setup used in this video. I already posted it, see above. Originally by: zwerg have you heard something about a blue module which is called webifier. have you heard sthg about those guys who never fly alone and got more of those blue modules. You will never be in range of your target's webber unless you mess up. Several enemies with webbers can be a problem, which is why you use tech2 drones to pop any frigs that come near you, and deal with faster ships like cruisers and mwd battleships before taking on the slow ones. This is actually one of the main challenges of flying the nanophoon.. Every ship has to have a weakness, right? Originally by: zwerg Outrun missle dmg, okay, gunboat = webifier + mwd?! and when we say the truth its almost impossible to moneuver the phoon outta web range all the time and when youre keeping range his guns will track you. so?! Huh, you seriously think another mwd fitted battleship will catch you in web unless you mess up? Nanophoon goes 3.2km/s straight line speed in the very worst case scenario, and fights best at between 18 and 28km depending on how much faction fitting you have. How is a mega going to catch up while flying 1.7km/s and being quad nossed? Originally by: Rehmes My idea is this: x4 nos x4 siege x1 mwd x2 web x1 tp x1 injector or scram (use mwd sparingly the nos will take care of u) x1 L rep x1 DCU x5 nano Should b ok.... Phoon has 4 mids, not 5. Also the armor rep goes against the concept, as well as break the grid of the ship, pretty sure the setup is impossible, seeing as you need an rcu to fit it all even without rep. 3.2 km/sec : how
Guurzak Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.18 18:31:00 - [41] Originally by: Marc deBourgogne 3.2 km/sec : how Please tell me you didn't just post a 100-line quote followed by a 3-word post?
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.09.18 18:53:00 - [42] Originally by: Deb Dukar Edited by: Deb Dukar on 11/03/2006 01:57:51 i tried that once but gave up pretty fast after i nearly lost my phoon twice. mid: 1x AB 1x Target Painter/tracking enhancer 2x webber lows: 1x large rep. 2x 1600mm 3x hardeners 1x whatever module are by far better then any speed setup could ever be. i got 13k armor (could be more, i know) and can tank quite much with that. drones(5 heavy and 2 webber), missiles and 800mm AC doing the rest for me if u want something fast, get a stabber ^^ You've completely lost the point of the fit. Go home. 4x Torp 4x NOS 1x T2 MWD, Scram, Booster + Cap Recharge Fitting mods + Nanofibers (Inertia Stabs when they get changed) Cant hit it with turrets, going too fast for the explosion radius to catch up from cruises or torps. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
Ath Amon	Posted - 2006.09.18 19:56:00 - [43] nanophoon is a lot of fun :) tried it a bit ago and is a nice ship, the opponent have to face many troubles when facing it... speaking about 1 vs 1 the real problem of the ship is ecm (as usual) + nos, if you get ecm and nosed you are in big troubles :( (even if generally due to speed you can still run away when you meet an ecm heavy boat :) ) i also had some troubles with some ravens, but again the philosophy is the same for the vaga... if you can't beat... run :P
Scordite	Posted - 2006.09.19 02:46:00 - [44] Originally by: Marc deBourgogne 3.2 km/sec : how Watch the video. Link's been posted a few times by now. 5 nanofibers and an mwd is a good start. Anyone do math to find out how fast it'd go with all relevant skills maxed, hg snake, speed hardwires and best possible nanos/mwd? That'd be something to smile about, especially keeping in mind that we're basically talking about a tipped-over trashcan Oh, almost forgot, how about grouped with minnie fleet command ship with all relevant skills maxed + mindlink? ----------------------------------------------- The only legitimate use of the BLINK tag: Schr÷dinger's cat is [BLINK] not [/BLINK] dead.
Alex Harumichi Gallente Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.09.19 10:10:00 - [45] Anyone tried the nanophoon-type setup with an AB? With good nav skills and a good AB, the speed might(?) still be enough to mess up turrets and reduce damage from cruise/torp. The thing with the AB is that you can run it nonstop and it keeps your sig rad down -- usually not an issue with battleships, but the Phoon has a very small sig for a bs, why not get some good use out of that?
Scordite	Posted - 2006.09.19 21:43:00 - [46] No. Bad idea. Missiles will chew you up, and mwd fitted close combat ships will catch you. Mwd runs practically forever anyways with 4 nos and an injector going. ----------------------------------------------- The only legitimate use of the BLINK tag: Schr÷dinger's cat is [BLINK] not [/BLINK] dead.
Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Nova Republic	Posted - 2006.09.19 22:47:00 - [47] Originally by: Rehmes Originally by: mazzilliu one time i tried a nanophoon and i got killed by an ibis thx Thats not true...the nanophoon is a capable ship in the right hands... Broken irony meter FTL! -- Guile can always trump hardware --

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