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Soelent
Black Scorpions Inc
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2013.12.23 18:37:00 -
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This doesnt apply to the high-sec carebears.. so you guys can go whine about miner bumping or something..
However, moreover a sensible discussion about cloaky campers, Everyone who has ever done anything in nullsec will have, i am sure at some point encountered a cloaky camper.
-definition for those new would be someone who flies to a system, warps to a celestial or safespot somewhere, cloaks, and goes AFK (actually leaving the PC) for days on end doing nothing at all, almost always an alt also.
Having the discussion with some alliance mates the other night and a few suggestions are as follows... in no particular order, and in the spirit of keeping cloaking a viable, and useful mechanic
1. have a large, system wide anchorable structure that pings every 30 minutes or so and decloaks (or has a chance to decloak) all cloaked targets within the system - similar to say, a cyno jammer or jump bridge.
2. ignore the structure and add a small chance (after a set time, say 45 minutes cloaked) for the cloaking device to fluctuate with the chance to decloak unless reactivated or reset within that time.
- a point to note that the "chance" only begins AFTER 30minutes of cloak, i dont know, maybe due to the CPU load on the module itself or something else becoming unstable after this time. Essentially running around like most people do, cloaking, decloaking in bombers etc will be completely unaffected, however AFKing cloaked for hours on end would liberate an ever increasing chance you uncloak. The chance, of course, would be small, but would double say, every 15 minutes.. 1% to start, 2, 4 etc etc until you decloak and/or stop being afk
3. similar to the above but allow the cloakable ship to be scannable after a certian amount of time. Say, have immunity to scan for the first 30 minutes of cloak, then have an ever growing signature radius (up to the say 50% of the ships normal sig radius) after that.
- essentially it means that the longer you camp the easier it is to scan you down with a decent scanning toon but would require rediculous skills to scan you down at the start, again however, if you move, recloak or whatever the timer resets completely
4. Give all cloaked ships an extremely small signature radius as standard, (say, 10% of the original ships signature) that can be scanned down - obviously something this small would require perfect skills, the best equipment and be combined with the best ship (eg, helios, full skills, and sisters launcher and probes, with scannign rigs and equipment for probing)
5. my personal favorite, if you cloaky camp in a system for longer than an hour, the cloaking device interferes with the electronic signals of your impants/andor clone and you explode.
I would just like to point out that the cloaking mechanic itself works, extremely well. However complete immunity should only ever be a limited thing (hence you get it for say, 30 minutes then start to have some negative side effects)
IF people consider the "lore" side of the cloaking situation, the cloaking device itself works on certian frequencies and uses electronic equipment, and just as modern day equipment can be tuned to look for specific signals, so can scanning probes within the game.
would love to see some suggestions..
that, ccp, and the reintroduction of scannable ore signatures again.. (please)
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NearNihil
Every time is Fuwa time
94
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Posted - 2013.12.23 18:46:00 -
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May I present to you: 204 pages of AFK cloaking suggestions. This has been suggested multiple times before. |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2013.12.23 19:33:00 -
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the search function could have saved u so much time.
There are no vets in EVE. Only varying levels of Noobery. |
Bobsled Nutcase Motsu
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.23 19:43:00 -
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Aww no... didn't they fumigate this place for these ideas recently? |
TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises
Almost Awesome.
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Posted - 2013.12.23 19:55:00 -
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Seriously, can we get that stickied? That thread needs to be stickied. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
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Posted - 2013.12.23 19:59:00 -
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haha no
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
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Posted - 2013.12.23 20:24:00 -
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By "sensible discussion" you mean nonsensical repetition of the littany of bad ideas that have been forwarded and discussed ad-infinitem by nerf-herders.. great.
-á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Warcalibre
Imperium Libertas
96
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Posted - 2013.12.23 20:44:00 -
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Cloaky cu...
Cloaky cucumbers!
Cloaky cup collectors!
Cloaky cubically cuckooing cutthroats culminating in cumulated cuirassed cudgelers!
Discuss. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.23 21:20:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:By "sensible discussion" you mean nonsensical repetition of the littany of bad ideas that have been forwarded and discussed ad-infinitem by nerf-herders.. great. I think he means a discussion without it filling up with trolls hurling insults about. But you guys wouldn't let that happen right?
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Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
36
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Posted - 2013.12.23 21:40:00 -
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just my 2 cents - sometimes I have to go AFK - in HS - that's fine - I can just sit there with my tank running, or dock in a station minimum 2 jps away, in null - nearest station I can dock in is 14 jps away in losec, and I'm busting for a pee/poo, atm, I warp to 100 off a celestial - and start moving away, cloaked, or if I'm close but not absolutely desperate, I might make a safe for added security.
Now you're telling me that I'm gonna lose my ship and pod? because that pulse you mentioned - it's 2 mins off, and I can't wait that long
oh - and I've been watching and waiting, playing the patience game with someone I think is a mission runner and wants his wrecks for about an hr and a half now, probably just over (and yes, I'm in a cloaky, interdiction nullified proteus)
regarding option 4 - no - this as good as announces to WH's that someone's there (I'm presuming this mechanic wouldn't be supposed to work in WH's where you can't see me in local anyway) |
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Seranova Farreach
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Posted - 2013.12.23 21:51:00 -
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make local delayed.
leave cloaks as they are.
put out mobile cyno jammer.
smoke a blunt and chill, no one be hot-droppin you.
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Lion Ahishatsu
State War Academy
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.12.23 22:29:00 -
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the simple point is nothing should be 100% safe in space |
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
387
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Posted - 2013.12.23 23:11:00 -
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Dear Santa,
For Christmas I would like you to give every pilot in New Eden who has hidden in station from someone AFK and cloaked for days a good stiff dose of testicular fortitude or the ability to use the search function on the EvE-O forums, maybe both.
Thank you
Samillian.
P.S. Sorry about the sleigh and hope the reindeer got the burn salve, you should really have been set blue before now.
NBSI shall be the whole of the Law |
Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative
757
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Posted - 2013.12.23 23:16:00 -
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Lion Ahishatsu wrote:the simple point is nothing should be 100% safe in space
Its not, get within 2500 of it and its guaranteed dead.
The same cannot be said for any ratter ever who can dock/pos up the second they see local change and likely have multiple blues siting seconds of travel to help save them.
Cloaks exist the way they do in null to counter the omnipotence of local and the supreme power and home tactical advantage enjoyed by the tatter over the naturally gimped abilities of the cloaked ship. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
1528
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Posted - 2013.12.24 00:39:00 -
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Between miner bumping and cloaky camping, I'm completely sure that miner bumping is the more reasonable topic to whine about.
At least with miner bumping, someone's actually doing something to you and actually affecting you outside the confines of your fearful mind. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2531
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Posted - 2013.12.24 00:55:00 -
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Locked for redundancy.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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