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spidster
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Posted - 2006.03.12 13:43:00 -
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just wondering what skills and modules i need to accomplish this, also what damage will i be looking to get, experiences from other harpy sniping pilots would be appreciated too.
btw this isnt 0.0 sniping this is 0.4 to 0.1 so gotta be outa sentry range
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smallgreenblur
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Posted - 2006.03.12 13:48:00 -
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You're going to snipe with a harpy at 160ks?
Good luck.
sgb
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Reprismo
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Posted - 2006.03.12 13:49:00 -
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You,ll be very lucky in a Harpy my friend
I think gate guns hit out to 150km
to get that kinda range + in a Harpy you,d need either
1) Faction Mods
2) a logistics ship boosting you
so it aint gonna happen unless you spend wads
eg: 500 million +
Take a look at this
http://www.killboard.net/gallery/Reikoku/99.jpg
Now this has gotta be a boosted ship or lots of faction mods
Look at the scan resolution - gotta be 2-3-4 logistics ships boosting the signal IMHO
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.12 13:50:00 -
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You sure that's possible? A quick calculation yielded something like 66km optimal as a reasonable maximum with the long-range T2 ammo and max skills.
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Aakron
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Posted - 2006.03.12 13:56:00 -
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If range is what you are looking for, I think the best you'll get is:
4x 150mm Railgun II w/ Spike S
2x Tracking Computer II
1x Sensor Booster II
1x F-90 Sensor Booster
1x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1x Tracking Enhancer II
Fits with level5 Weapon Upgrades,electronics, engineering. 16PG 1.75CPU spare. Optimal of about 114km I believe. I dont know if that's good enough for your purpose.
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spidster
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Posted - 2006.03.12 14:08:00 -
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damn, im sure i saw a post saying ppl were getting 175km optimals with there harpy, maybe im going mad, so whats the max range i could get with one, my budget being 100mill. thanx guys.
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Nebuli
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Posted - 2006.03.12 14:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Aakron
If range is what you are looking for, I think the best you'll get is:
4x 150mm Railgun II w/ Spike S
2x Tracking Computer II
1x Sensor Booster II
1x F-90 Sensor Booster
1x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1x Tracking Enhancer II
Fits with level5 Weapon Upgrades,electronics, engineering. 16PG 1.75CPU spare. Optimal of about 114km I believe. I dont know if that's good enough for your purpose.
Bah thats my exact set-up, been using it since spike S was released, I dont quite get the same range as I dont have max skills, but i can hit to aboput 106k optimal I think it is.
Works extremely well tbh, better than most would think, my suggestion would be to the OP if you want to do this then scale up this Harpy set up but on a Moa, and you will get outside 150k with good skills, for example...
4 250MM II, 2 assault launchers,
2 sensor boosers, 2 tracking cpus,
3 damage mods, 1 tracking enhancer
Spike ammo ofc, does the same job as the harpy except hits harder, from further, doesnt struggle hitting frigs and is cheaper :)
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spidster
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Posted - 2006.03.12 14:14:00 -
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cool, so what damage you gettin at that range? and what uses you have at that range, spose you just support?
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Nebuli
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Posted - 2006.03.12 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: spidster
damn, im sure i saw a post saying ppl were getting 175km optimals with there harpy, maybe im going mad, so whats the max range i could get with one, my budget being 100mill. thanx guys.
The only possible weay of doing that would be with huge outside help, remote sensor boosters, remote tracking computers etc.
Megathron can hit to those ranges NP at all, 200k+ is easily achieved, with good damage I might add, but without huge outside help I cant see how this is ever possible with a Harpy.
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Citizen 666
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Posted - 2006.03.12 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nebuli
Originally by: Aakron
Works extremely well tbh, better than most would think, my suggestion would be to the OP if you want to do this then scale up this Harpy set up but on a Moa, and you will get outside 150k with good skills, for example...
4 250MM II, 2 assault launchers,
2 sensor boosers, 2 tracking cpus,
3 damage mods, 1 tracking enhancer
Spike ammo ofc, does the same job as the harpy except hits harder, from further, doesnt struggle hitting frigs and is cheaper :)
i think the word your searching for is Eagle
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spidster
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Posted - 2006.03.12 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Citizen 666
Originally by: Nebuli
Originally by: Aakron
Works extremely well tbh, better than most would think, my suggestion would be to the OP if you want to do this then scale up this Harpy set up but on a Moa, and you will get outside 150k with good skills, for example...
4 250MM II, 2 assault launchers,
2 sensor boosers, 2 tracking cpus,
3 damage mods, 1 tracking enhancer
Spike ammo ofc, does the same job as the harpy except hits harder, from further, doesnt struggle hitting frigs and is cheaper :)
i think the word your searching for is Eagle
i dont want to train for a few months solid for a 150+mill ship
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Nebuli
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Posted - 2006.03.12 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Citizen 666
Originally by: Nebuli
Originally by: Aakron
Works extremely well tbh, better than most would think, my suggestion would be to the OP if you want to do this then scale up this Harpy set up but on a Moa, and you will get outside 150k with good skills, for example...
4 250MM II, 2 assault launchers,
2 sensor boosers, 2 tracking cpus,
3 damage mods, 1 tracking enhancer
Spike ammo ofc, does the same job as the harpy except hits harder, from further, doesnt struggle hitting frigs and is cheaper :)
i think the word your searching for is Eagle
Not when he stated he only has a budget of 100mil it isnt.
At that range I usualy act as anti Inty/frig, and can put good hurt on cruisers, and tbh not bad on BS's realy, get wreckings of if memory serves 280-300 ish, normal hits around 100.
Example of when I have used this with good success is, we had a inty gang in the system scanning station then warping to it when lone BS undocked etc, so I got the Moa out and insta outdocked and went to a SS, then got a friend to undock in his heavily tanked raven, warped to station at 150k sniper bkmk I had and proceeded to make all 9 I think it was either warp out in structure or pop.
Not sure what your purpose for it was, but you asked about a harpy doing gate camping from outsiude turret range with a budget of 100mil, imo your best bet in that budget, and wan6ting to be outside 150k Moa is a good option, as would be Ferox, Ferox can get the same ranges as moa with one extra gun, just a little sluggish is all, hope this helps.
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.03.12 14:27:00 -
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You would need alot of tracking links to reach that kind of range.
I prefer to tank the sentries.
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Citizen 666
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Posted - 2006.03.12 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kyozoku
You would need alot of tracking links to reach that kind of range.
I prefer to tank the sentries.
yeah, i get in close with a typhoon using torps+heavy nos, but what exactly is the OP trying to snipe? frigs? shuttles? how much damage do you excpect to put out with the harpy. cruisers and larger will tank you, frigs with run too the gate too fast, and a shuttle will just warp off if he's not afk..
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spidster
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Posted - 2006.03.12 15:03:00 -
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just wanted to know how much damage ide do and what things i need to get that range (i know now that its impossible). what about this ferox sniping, how could i setup a ferox for gate sniping? plus what damge am i lookin at again with that? + has anyone sniped ina ferox?
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Jin Entres
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Posted - 2006.03.12 15:39:00 -
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This is what I get on a Harpy with decent fittings, but as it has been said, it's not enough to stay outside sentry range.
And yeah, Ferox with 5 250mm II's and Spike M can easily reach that range. I'll try out a setup and post it for you...
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smallgreenblur
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Posted - 2006.03.12 15:43:00 -
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Sorry how many months do you need to train for hacs? I't just assault ships 4 really, not exactly difficult...
sgb
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Anstice Frost
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Posted - 2006.03.12 15:47:00 -
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Edited by: Anstice Frost on 12/03/2006 15:47:47
...and cruiser 5...which is a rank 5 skill, which works out to about 1.5 months to train.
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2006.03.12 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Vishnej on 12/03/2006 15:51:56
"lots of tracking links" on a ship with three or four tracking mods = zero effect. The harpy is for 0-100km anti-frig work, the Eagle takes its place over 100km.
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2006.03.12 15:51:00 -
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Due to stacking penalty the best optimal you can get on a harpy (not using faction mods) are 116km. Won't matter how many ships you have remote boosting when only the first 4 mods have any effect.
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DeadRow
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Posted - 2006.03.12 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Anstice Frost
Edited by: Anstice Frost on 12/03/2006 15:47:47
...and cruiser 5...which is a rank 5 skill, which works out to about 1.5 months to train.
only 1.5months if u hav no learning skills and/or implants
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samuel222
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Posted - 2006.03.12 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: DeadRow
Originally by: Anstice Frost
Edited by: Anstice Frost on 12/03/2006 15:47:47
...and cruiser 5...which is a rank 5 skill, which works out to about 1.5 months to train.
only 1.5months if u hav no learning skills and/or implants
damn straight cruiser 5 is 24 days for me 
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Naughty Boy
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Posted - 2006.03.12 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Vishnej
"lots of tracking links" on a ship with three or four tracking mods = zero effect. The harpy is for 0-100km anti-frig work, the Eagle takes its place over 100km.
Graph.
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Foulis
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Posted - 2006.03.12 18:30:00 -
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If you want a really cheap 100km sniper the cormorant works nicely.
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Naughty Boy
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Posted - 2006.03.12 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: Naughty Boy on 12/03/2006 18:35:03
Originally by: Foulis
If you want a really cheap 100km sniper the cormorant works nicely.
Graph (TM)
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Foulis
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Posted - 2006.03.12 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Naughty Boy
Edited by: Naughty Boy on 12/03/2006 18:35:03
Originally by: Foulis
If you want a really cheap 100km sniper the cormorant works nicely.
Graph (TM)
Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy.
Thanks Naughty, as you can see the DPS isn't the same but it can still range it nicely.
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Henka
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Posted - 2006.03.12 19:00:00 -
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we recently had a bit of a pirate infestation, he was useing a ferox with spike ammo sniping all friggs, shuttles, indstrias.. well everything realy from 160km, doing quite good damage (120-150 a hit on my unhardened celestis armor/shield)...
to bad he ran when i got my covert ops there.. but not after taking out a bunch of noob friggs and two industrials
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Naughty Boy
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Posted - 2006.03.12 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Naughty Boy on 12/03/2006 19:02:58
Originally by: Foulis
Thanks Naughty, as you can see the DPS isn't the same but it can still range it nicely.
That's because of the number of damage mods, which is different. I didn't check if the harpy can fit 2 mfs t2 with 4 150mm t2 and if the cormorant can fit 1 mfs t2 with 7 150mm t2. I have some doubts about that, even.
Graph (no damage mod)
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Triscuit
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Posted - 2006.03.13 00:29:00 -
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From personal experience, you need a MAPC to fit 7x 150mm IIs on a Cormorant. Also the cormorant has no defense. For frig sniping, I'd go harpy anyday.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.13 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Anstice Frost
Edited by: Anstice Frost on 12/03/2006 15:47:47
...and cruiser 5...which is a rank 5 skill, which works out to about 1.5 months to train.
Even my Deteis can get cruiser V in 22 days (from IV), total time from 0 to 5 would still be about 4weeks tops. Train your learning skills and advanced learning skills.
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