Oh look this post again!

Yes, the lottery was ********.
Yes, some people got literally a few hundred billion isk thrown at them by virtue of clicking a research agent a few years ago.
No, you can't get a tech II BPO for free anymore.
Yes, you can still get one.
No, they are not really worth it from a RoI perspective
Yes, you can still build tech II and make ridiculous amounts of isk with invention

Oh, don't be so harsh!

I think the OP has a point: the EULA doesn't state that you have to work / think / do math for your ISK, either.

I'ts a EULA disaster!

I demand that CCP changes the EULA accordingly or I rage quit and close my 621 accounts too ... or not.

Tech II BPO's arent available to the public?

Now, that I'm officially an ass, I can also tell you that your metaphores suck!

Probably just too intelligent for you to understand. I'm sorry. If I have to use another I will be sure to use
one about crayons and eating glue. I'm sure you will understand that one.

All desire for me to give you a detailed explanation of what you want went away when I saw this post of yours.

I will say this; if you think you need a T2 BPO, you don't understand invention.

Maybe my sense of unfairness is heightened lately, probably brought into focus with so much "Occupy" protesting
being in the news as of late. Perhaps its made me a little sensitive to shady practices by businesses.

None the less, what CCP has done isn't fair to their average consumer, and as such the price of the product should
reflect that, and the consumer should be made aware of that before they make the decision to purchase. Really, that
shouldn't be asking for too much. If we can't ask for a fair shake from the people we give our hard earned cash to,
then this economy really is going to ****, along with the rest of the world.

Either you're a bad troll or you're too stupid to understand the role of T2 BPO plays in eve economy...

I got one more ass-question: How many blue pills did you take, dude?

Thanks for the replies everyone, except for Lutz, you're just an ass.

Yes I know some players have BPO's for sale. Do I have billions of ISK at my disposal to buy one? No.

The problem here is that this is a consumer product, a game. It was intended for entertainment purposes.
Let's use another entertainment example. Let's say you go to the movies, and see... Tranformers 3 (I dunno).
Lets say that the movie theatre advertises that you will see the whole movie, all 154 minutes of it. You get your
popcorn and you get your soda, maybe some candy too, and you sit down ready for 154 minutes of entertainment.

Now, the movie is over, and you noticed that you only got 120 minutes of entertainment. You approach the manager
to ask where the other 34 minutes of the movie went, and they kindly explain that the other 34 minutes of the movie
was shown to movie goers a week previously, and there is no way you can watch the rest of the movie now.

Are you going to be happy? No.

Are you going to be upset you paid money to see 4/5 of a movie? Yes.

The problem here is that they advertise this game as being the same for everyone. Everyone has the same opportunity
as everyone else to utilize this consumer product in the same way. But apparently that isn't true!

If CCP doesn't want to let everyone have access to tech II BPO's, that's fine. But they should advertise that they are
selling an incomplete product, and monthly fees should be adjusted to reflect this for those who do not have
access to the whole product.

I am really curious just how CCP has protected themselves from legal action concerning this.

No pill Lutz. It is not unreasonable for me to expect the same treatment and the same product available to every
other subscriber of EVE. After all, we all pay the same price (except people paying in euros, I understand your
frustration). Except I guess the same product isn't available to us all, now is it?

I'm even more curious now. Are there other aspects to EVE that aren't available to the general public? I don't mean
trivial promotional stuff like the 30 day implant for new trial accounts, I mean large game changing exclusions like
tech II BPO's?

I'm even more curious now. Are there other aspects to EVE that aren't available to the general public? I don't mean
trivial promotional stuff like the 30 day implant for new trial accounts, I mean large game changing exclusions like
tech II BPO's?

Ok I know this was probably covered years ago, but I just recently came back to EVE and am just now hearing this:

Tech II BPO's arent available to the public? They were only given out by "lottery" during their introduction?

How is this fair to any new or returning players with a focus on manufacturing? Why is this not listed in the EULA, that
not all game items are available to everyone? I feel cheated to learn just now that I will most likely never get my hands
on a tech II BPO. This is something that should be stated in the EULA, and us consumers should be well informed
before we decide to hand over our hard earned cash to play EVE.

This is like going to an icecream stand and seeing them advertise chocolate sprinkles, but then telling you that
"Oh, we're sorry, those sprinkles were only given out to people four years ago, you cant have any now".

I'm starting to remember why I didnt stick with this game previously. Excuse me while I go contemplate paying a monthly
fee for part of a game....

Either you're a bad troll or you're too stupid to understand the role of T2 BPO plays in eve economy...

Read down til the part where someone said we pay the same price so we should all have the same access to all content. Go **** yourself. If I put in the time and energy to get billions of isk while you just sit on your ass talking to people and not using your in game time efficiently to accomplish something you want, then you shouldnt get the same content as me.

I hate the bastards that think they are entitled to everything someone else has worked their ass off for in real life, I dont want it in my games too. Entertainment is what we pay for, every single one of us has the ability to aquire the same exact assets, if you put forth the effor to get it. If you put in less than someone else, you will get less returned. Simple as that.

The world needs to stop accomodating the lowest common denominator who cries cuz they want to be lazy.

Because T2 BPOs are "game changing"?


If you want to sue CCP, then do it proprely and include how not having a Guardian-Vexor or an Imperial Apocalypse is changing your game experience, and how you don't have fun without them.

Did CCP advertise T2 BPO's somewhere?

If you like RL comparisons: browsing the advertisements for caribbean sea holidays, you will see many photos with luxury yachts with heli landing pad and a bunch of models lieing on the sun deck etc.

Of course this available to YOU, IF you got the money. If you don't have the money, you need to chose the standard package.
The same works in EVE. If you have enough RL money, buy PLEX and convert them to ISK and you can own any of the T2 BPOs available on the market.

Otherwise choose the standard package like 99.99% do.

No thats not my point either. Im not out to sue anyone. I would just stop paying for their service.

As far as it being game changing, Im sure it was for those fortunate enough to have obtained them when they were
handed out.