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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2006.03.13 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Jet Collins on 13/03/2006 18:01:18
The HAC is a result of Supply and Demande, i agree. I also feel if you think something is over priced don't buy it over priced. I know I won't.
I have the skills to fly HAC's and I fly a Muninn only because I was able to get a BPC and build it. I am currnetly searching the market for a vaga and for those of you who said "build it yourself" I am fully willing just give me the BPC  .
So as for why the prices are so high. As long as their a people on the WTB forums say I need A Vaga "NOW I'm willing to pay 200mil" the price will stay high. I saw this on the forums the other day as I was making my request for a vaga. Needless to say this person go a responce and I'm still waiting.
Now anouther thing I noticed in reading this forum, you builders( I would assume its the builders saying this) stated that it takes you 36hours to build a HAC... Well as I said above I manage to get a BPC and it was a long time ago but when I had mine built it only took about 10 hours, all say at most 24... so if its taking you guys 36 hours to build than I think you need to research your print a little and if your not than my guess would be doing this on prupose to keep the supply low(way to go builders), or maybe I'm totaly wrong. I can't immagin that a ship with more material requirments(Muninn) would take less time to build than a ship with less materials(vaga). So clear this one up for me pelase...
So yes the prices are high.. It is the result of Supply and Demand.
Demand: people demanding ships now willing to pay way to much.
Supply: not enough BPO and possibly builders arn't reseaching thier prints so the build time can get lowered.
Thats all I have.
Ohh yes I also wanted to mention the Insurance thing. Personally I belive if the current price of HAC is support to be what it is than CCP need to fix how insurance works. It needs to take into account the cost of the BPO and cost of all materials, so when we lose our HAC we are compenasted accourdingly. If the issurnace coverage cover a muninn for 100mil than sure I might be more willing to pay 150mil for a muninn. You get the idea.
*Currently looking to buy a vaga.. Not willing to pay 200mil 
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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2006.03.13 18:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Frezik
This would only serve to make prices higher. People who lose HACs now get the insurance payout and buy another one right away, whereas before they might not have had the isk. So demand rises, and thus the price of HACs go up more.
Yes that is ture. I guess this would only be appropreate once the suppy could keep up with the demand.
I also do belive they are luxury item and the price can dictate this, however I still belive the pricies are over priced. The luxury I belive stands in the time required to train the skills to fly it not in the current prices. This ship is still a cruser and I do not think a cruser should be more expenive than a battle ship.
After all it would take a newb 141 days just to be able to fly it. Than you also have to train other skills just to make it affective and learning skill if you want to cut the time some.(141 days comes from me creating alt with no skill trained and if its primary goal is to just fly a HAC thats how long it would take, according to ECM)
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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2006.03.17 17:37:00 -
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Personally I do not think it would be a bad idea to make all t2 products "researchable" BPC's. I think buy doing this they could have a better stream of prints out thier to be built. Also if thier are no BPO you wouldn't worry about only a few people having control over one item, or people leaving and sitting on the BPO.
If there are more BPC with limited runs the # of ships that reach the market can be regulated but increaseing the # of BPC being put out. IE if thier are to many ships on the market no BPC will be handed out. If thier are to few ships on the market BPC can be handed out.
Now for those that already have BPO in thier possestion I would say if we are to remove all t2 BPO I would say to make those BPO have about a 100,000,000(more or less whatever is fair so they can make thier isk back) runs so if some one that paid 8bil for a HAC print they can make their isk back. But I wouldn't say that that really has to happen. Think the sytem could still work even with the current # of BPO on the market currently. I don't think those that have BPO should get screwed, I just think the t2 needs better regulation. Somethings are over produced while others are underproduced.
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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2006.03.17 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Al Thorr
In regards to the price arguement . I had my weekly "Bonus" cerb ready. several days ago . And as usual looked at the buy orders . 171Misk was the highest single order not in jita so as usual I thought I would fly it down and sell it. But Having posted in this about prices I decided to try an experiment regards the cost. So put it up for sale for at 192Misk " Just to see"
2 and a bit hours later it was sold. Couldnt believe it really. Contacted the Buyer and explained to him that I didnt really expect it to sell and gave him back the 21 mil he paid over that I would have sold it for.
Just a useless post really but showing that the price doesnt seem to have stabilised yet.
Regards
Al Thorr
Very interesting... *Jet wishes he could throw isk around like that 
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