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Batelle
Komm susser Tod
997
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Posted - 2013.12.27 15:34:00 -
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Tippia wrote:The cost of the crew is less than one round of ammunition. When you buy a ship, the crew cost is on the scale of a rounding error on the sales tax for that trade.
So yeah, when you buy a ship for a million ISK or half a billion or ten, it seems like a rather safe assumption that some part of that cost is the hiring of a crew.
Confirming my crew members are all made of tritanium with a gooey zydrine core. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
706
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Posted - 2013.12.27 15:49:00 -
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Do we need just another thing to min/max your ship with for just the same narrow field of expertise? |

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
2473
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Posted - 2013.12.27 15:50:00 -
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Scott DTA wrote:I would like to see little escape pods fly out of my ship right before it explodes, save the crew, think of the little people. People asked for that in the past. Reportedly a dev or GM said the crew escape pods do eject, but they're just too small to see. |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
997
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Posted - 2013.12.27 15:52:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Scott DTA wrote:I would like to see little escape pods fly out of my ship right before it explodes, save the crew, think of the little people. People asked for that in the past. Reportedly a dev or GM said the crew escape pods do eject, but they're just too small to see.
and they also quickly starve to death. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Borsek
A.A.A Ragnarok.
133
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Posted - 2013.12.27 15:58:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Derek xStarbuckx wrote:Istuff
You've been playing too much X-Afterbirth
Pretty sure it's X:Stillbirth |

Logical 101
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
60
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Posted - 2013.12.27 16:03:00 -
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We don't interact with our crews because they are worthless peons who are below us. Why the hell would I want to casually chat with the hundreds of idiots who sweep spent shells into space for me?
We are pod pilots. We're the Joneses of outer space. So long as they make me decent sandwiches and stay the **** out of my face, my crew is doing their job. |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
986
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Posted - 2013.12.27 16:15:00 -
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Derek xStarbuckx wrote:Cypherous wrote:Derek xStarbuckx wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:You do. They come with the ship. Can you prove it? Cause I don't remember paying anyone. Its included in the cost of the ship itself :P According to Lore almost all ships have a crew, you just dont interact with them and most of them will go down with the ship when the ship explodes, i dont think this will change :) Just seems weird with how deep EVE is that they wouldn't include some kind of crew aspect to the game.
You really want to handle 20 thousand hires for the crew of a supercarrier?
The idea would work ok if game was designed from start with ath in mind and with ships ina different scale.
Also woudl make peopel even more resilient to PVP because they would have yet another thing to loose, their imaginary friend named hans that he hired to be the ship cook. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1891
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Posted - 2013.12.27 16:23:00 -
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This is a stupid thread.
Total waste of pixels.
There is no benefit to have a crew.
I saved all those islands and all I had was 3 Mantas, 3 Walruses and a mostly-robot Carrier.
Did I ask for a medal? No!
Did I ask for crew to be installed on my Carrier? No!
Then, when the Midwinter hit, I was on that other island, and there was lots of crew there.
All of them were complete jerks. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --áPontianak Sythaeryn Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
316
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Posted - 2013.12.27 17:17:00 -
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Pay the crew!?! Nah, my scientists in my cargo hold injected the crew with Pax which made them all like insane animals. Now they are happy to run the ship provided they are allowed to eat the dead. So don't mess with a good thing. |

NFain
LSD Island
56
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Posted - 2013.12.27 17:24:00 -
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I too, wish to fit "Capt. James T Kirk" In my crew slot to obtain 200% damage output and 200% tanking ability to win fights I shouldn't. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness
1913
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Posted - 2013.12.27 17:27:00 -
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its just part of the same silly lore that says the 1 isk you can't buy anything with can feed an entire planet of "regular folks" for a lifetime |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
933
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Posted - 2013.12.27 17:54:00 -
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Derek xStarbuckx wrote:Its actually surprising that Eve hasn't put much attention in this aspect of the game. '
Hiring crew members. Maybe specific ships would require a certain amount of hands on board to operate.The bigger the ship the more crew members you need hired
This could also provide a host of new skill sets where your crew can provide bonus's to different aspects of your ship.
Lastly. it just seems weird that I'm piloting a giant spaceship by myself.
This isn't WoW?
CCP, trading shiny pictures for playability since 2003.. EvE, a cutting edge game. The only game to provide Matrix style gameplay for the masses! (trouble is, most people don't have 9 hours to waste on a one hour fight.) |

Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative
812
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Posted - 2013.12.27 18:12:00 -
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Morganta wrote:its just part of the same silly lore that says the 1 isk you can't buy anything with can feed an entire planet of "regular folks" for a lifetime now thats just being extreme. it was a single family's parent-and-children retirement.
but it is NOT without merit to say ISk is INCREDIBLY mroe valuable per unit than planetary currency, do to economics of scale.
banks use 1000 and 10,000 USD notes when trading between eachother, most normal people would rarely find the occasion to use a 100 note, and that is considered huge, but again, banks trade the 1/10k notes by the thousands.
thats just between 2 banks, between any 2 countries your talking scales large enough they can no longer use physical money, so they trade large amount of goods or digital notes.
were talking a multi-factional galactic empire scale economy, with capsuleers each operating as the equivalent of an independent nation.
the scale of that makes it not hard to believe that a capsuleer could easily pay for crews to a single ship with pocket change. |

Tweek Etimua
Aideron Robotics
26
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Posted - 2013.12.27 21:10:00 -
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Dextrome Thorphan wrote:Derek xStarbuckx wrote:Cypherous wrote:Derek xStarbuckx wrote:[quote=James Amril-Kesh]You do. They come with the ship. Can you prove it? Cause I don't remember paying anyone. Its included in the cost of the ship Uhmm, but he just explained to you there IS a crew, you just don't interact with them. As a sidenote though, I wouldn't mind seeing some crew interaction like you suggested. Or even the possibiity to board other players' ships at the risk of your character getting blown up :p
The only way this would make sence, because of the player being in a pod, would be by makinging ship boarding mor of an rts wrather than an fps. But the you get into the roblem of in the middle of boarding both ships explode. |

Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
910
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Posted - 2013.12.28 00:20:00 -
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If you want Star Citizen features, you should stop playing this sad game of EVE and play Star Citizen when it comes out.
You'll never see WIS and crew in EVE so might as well play a game which can do that.
Also X Rebirth...
Stop asking this old dog to learn new tricks. Its only a little while longer because EVE catches rabies and you have to take it out back with a shotgun. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. Captain Tardbar: The official grumpy cat of General Discussion. |

Felicity Love
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1243
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Posted - 2013.12.28 00:24:00 -
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Derek xStarbuckx wrote: Lastly. it just seems weird that I'm piloting a giant spaceship by myself.
"Freely Adapted" interpretations like the excellent "Clear Skies" videos aside, that's exactly what you're doing. Get's damn crowded and a bit "ripe" in that pod with more than one anyway.
Working as intended; suck it up, Princess.
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2200
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Posted - 2013.12.28 00:28:00 -
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the gss boosh is crewed by the finest crew of male exotic dancers. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
8130
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Posted - 2013.12.28 00:28:00 -
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Dextrome Thorphan wrote:As a sidenote though, I wouldn't mind seeing some crew interaction like you suggested. Or even the possibiity to board other players' ships at the risk of your character getting blown up :p
Just remember one thing as you attempt to board my ship:
You will be in blaster range.   Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
799
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Posted - 2013.12.28 01:25:00 -
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I think what OP means, is to have a crew like STO what you can train and replace them. Its sounds cool and it is like in STO but in eve well i think thats a great move to let people to play more so the crew gain standerd XP like all other mmorpg. So people that play more gain more XP while SP farmers gain nothing.
This will boost up the game in time to. Yah i agree sounds great OP. |

Derek xStarbuckx
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.12.28 04:13:00 -
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Logical 101 wrote:We don't interact with our crews because they are worthless peons who are below us. Why the hell would I want to casually chat with the hundreds of idiots who sweep spent shells into space for me?
We are pod pilots. We're the Joneses of outer space. So long as they make me decent sandwiches and stay the **** out of my face, my crew is doing their job.
Picard talked to whoopi goldberg all the time  |

Derek xStarbuckx
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.12.28 04:30:00 -
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Johan Civire wrote:I think what OP means, is to have a crew like STO what you can train and replace them. Its sounds cool and it is like in STO but in eve well i think thats a great move to let people to play more so the crew gain standerd XP like all other mmorpg. So people that play more gain more XP while SP farmers gain nothing.
This will boost up the game in time to. Yah i agree sounds great OP.
Indeed. A experienced crew will give you an Edge. |

Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
392
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Posted - 2013.12.28 04:40:00 -
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Johan Civire wrote:I think what OP means, is to have a crew like STO what you can train and replace them. Its sounds cool and it is like in STO but in eve well i think thats a great move to let people to play more so the crew gain standerd XP like all other mmorpg. So people that play more gain more XP while SP farmers gain nothing.
This will boost up the game in time to. Yah i agree sounds great OP.
Sadly, I actually suggested this in the original Ship crews thread, all the way back in the old forums. It's still linked to in the 'Commonly Proposed Ideas' thread in Features and Ideas
Amusingly, I seem to have come up with STO's system before STO existed, which, had it and WiS been fully implimented, would have meant that EvE did every single thing that STO did, better, first.
Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all. |

Yosef Brinalle
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:39:00 -
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Crew works good in EVE lore and fiction but EVE lore and fiction are often at complete odds with the realities of game play. Boarding actions are a fine example. And I would love to see the recruitment adds placed by a serial suicide ganker. The lore and fiction are best dismissed as melodramatic dreck written for people who like that kind of stuff and the game is best played for itself. |

dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1020
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:44:00 -
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Derek xStarbuckx wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:You do. They come with the ship. Can you prove it? Cause I don't remember paying anyone.
Just so you know, they locked you in the captains quarters, and they are not opening the door before you pay. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
846
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:21:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:If you want Star Citizen features, you should stop playing this sad game of EVE and play Star Citizen when it comes out.
You'll never see WIS and crew in EVE so might as well play a game which can do that.
Also X Rebirth...
Stop asking this old dog to learn new tricks. Its only a little while longer because EVE catches rabies and you have to take it out back with a shotgun.
Not true, the rabies would be unleashed by rabid nullseccers on carebear miners. I for one welcome the addition of rabies and biological warfare to eve. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
846
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:22:00 -
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I do wonder though, who would be stupid enough to sign on as crew on a capsuleer ship. It's not like we're risk adverse people and every undock is potentially a suicide mission. We need more automation so that we don't have to wonder about theses things anymore. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Logical 101
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
70
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:47:00 -
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Derek xStarbuckx wrote:Logical 101 wrote:We don't interact with our crews because they are worthless peons who are below us. Why the hell would I want to casually chat with the hundreds of idiots who sweep spent shells into space for me?
We are pod pilots. We're the Joneses of outer space. So long as they make me decent sandwiches and stay the **** out of my face, my crew is doing their job. Picard talked to whoopi goldberg all the time  Yeah, but Whoopi didn't explode routinely and wake up as a clone, only to rejoin Picard on a new ship and go back to waxing philosophical and making drinks for the rest of the crew... who were also all just cloned and rejoined the bar scene on said new ship. There just way to much to explain there... and way too much to compensate for every time you get popped by someone.
Simply put, we aren't supposed to "know" our crews because they are vast, expendable and die often. Horribly. How we would ever work that into day-to-day EVE life is beyond me. |

Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
1000
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:35:00 -
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Derek xStarbuckx wrote:Johan Civire wrote:I think what OP means, is to have a crew like STO what you can train and replace them. Its sounds cool and it is like in STO but in eve well i think thats a great move to let people to play more so the crew gain standerd XP like all other mmorpg. So people that play more gain more XP while SP farmers gain nothing.
This will boost up the game in time to. Yah i agree sounds great OP. Indeed. A experienced crew will give you an Edge.
There was an old (some years ago) post where they stated as having a crew as game mechanic affecting ship stats was in the orginal EVE design.
Anyway, for the lore all the ships are assumed to have a crew beside the capsuleer; this was never translated in specific game mechanics (I think for simplification needs).
Could be a cool idea, but actually this would be simply like adding a further tier of modules/rigs/booster/whatever.
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Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
1000
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:56:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:I do wonder though, who would be stupid enough to sign on as crew on a capsuleer ship. It's not like we're risk adverse people and every undock is potentially a suicide mission. We need more automation so that we don't have to wonder about theses things anymore.
Well, yes, this too. Who would apply to join a crew of a spaceship where the pilot don't really give a **** because whatever happens he'll reborn in a brand new medical clone? :)
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Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
1077
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Posted - 2013.12.29 00:07:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:I do wonder though, who would be stupid enough to sign on as crew on a capsuleer ship. It's not like we're risk adverse people and every undock is potentially a suicide mission. We need more automation so that we don't have to wonder about theses things anymore. Well, yes, this too. Who would apply to join a crew of a spaceship where the pilot don't really give a **** because whatever happens he'll reborn in a brand new medical clone? :)
The desperate, the suicidal, the gullible, and the people really bad at figuring odds, I suspect.
Just think, desperate scrub out of money, all you have to do is survive ONE trip on a New Order Gankalyst, and you're set for life.
C'mon, the lifeboat pod isn't THAT far away from the workstation, and the Sisters will be by to pick you up quick.
Also, I told Vinnie, your Frentix dealer, that you were a narc.
Just sign here and report to bay 5...... The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
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