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Lord Wimbishi	Posted - 2006.03.13 10:51:00 - [1] Good day gentlemen, I am now presenting myself only as myself and not PA. I surmise and admitt the alliance I serve is but a ghost of its former self. I have been around a long long time too like many veterans and corporations who once casted their lot in with this proud alliance in its beginning. The fall of my beloved alliance did indeed start long ago, through failings, set backs, political and military intrigue. Many things gone unchecked and overlooked through out its long history and non have a decent right to say this or that about the alliance now as I see indeed in its death. Many corporations even before a year ago did their own thing and normally presented a militia type alliance where a call to arms was headed by the military fanatical more then the carebears. As of late even before I came back in effort to lead and bring my alliance back onto its feet, less and less pilots where mustering in PA organized fleets. Many upon many factors over the last six months from this date have played a factor in the slow demise of my alliance. To many honestly in respects and no reason to say. I expect all to respect this and not flame this thread. I have vowed defiance as any warrior would for something he loves. Even in memory, never we forget our past. We have been losing corporations, quite a few big ones lately that have been the corner stone to this alliance, through wisdom and self preservation of their corps; it does not matter no disrespect or dishonor is on them for such a decision. Many of you hate the thought of PA, yes some that was with it, for what it has become, and those that have fought against it because you never won. And only now smack this alliance in defeat you could not do then or even by yourselves ever had such the course of events happened as they did. No one can fight off wars after wars after wars for over 2 years straight in history each time the enemies growing and doubling and each was successfully beaten back till now. I've only been in office for a month and though I don't regret trying to save and pull my alliance back onto its feet; it was in vain indeed. We have lost to many of the oldest corps in the game that was in PA, pretty much finally giving a clear distinction; facing also the fact the animosity this alliance has by so many old players with hatred in their hearts and in grudges weighed heavily in the past; this alliance won't be able to gain its footing again as I know we would be facing yet another attack sometime and this time alone. I wish those that we had fought against in our long history where more mature in their voices when speaking about Phoenix, would bear more honor and respect to them as warriors and as individuals. What is to follow now? Really can't say since the north for the most part of my EVE life has been my home, through a lot of good times and bad, made a ton of friends and a few enemies due to my willing to carry the PA banner no matter where I go. I don't know where or what steps the individuals in the alliance will be going, I only wish I can try to get us all together some way and start fresh to keep the bonds of friendship we have enjoyed and shared for so long; active and alive. I honor those of 'the five' for they are implacable foes were matched, with notable successes in many areas of the game though some of their individuals carry tarnished personalities. KAOS are new to me and I have no overall issue with them, they just rode the bandwagon which is a sound political move. G will always have my respect and look forward to working with them sometime in the future. IRON I will respect past ties with and hope they get through their issues too. NBSI like G will have my confidence in friendship always, though I knew little of them. I wish you all well. PA will always be in my heart. (Wimbishi furls the PA banner and cases its colors before walking off the field with his eyes to the horizon.
Cacia Source	Posted - 2006.03.13 10:53:00 - [2] Respect. The Source INC wishes you, and your people best wishes in the future. -- Cacia Source Fair & Balanced
Zzazzt	Posted - 2006.03.13 10:54:00 - [3] Wot no wub for lil' old FE? ____________________________________________
Black Lotus	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:19:00 - [4] dont think he knows who fe is. funny he barely knows who nbsi are. must of read about us in story books, etc. joke of a leader imo.
fisty	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:28:00 - [5] ive been in RONA when it was in the NVA and the beginning of the PA "those time the real corps made that alliance" soon after PA formed i was a R-K pilot, simply RONA just the pvp wing... as you have stated only the pvp corps and action fanatics showed up to combat, was then and is now "i presume", even fanatics grow tired of backing people's up that have only interest in making money and not help at matters like keeping enemies out of their space... i think that was the main problem of PA "at the beginning", while being in the PA at those times my anger grew with people not showing up for combat and have a handfull of corps come and fight alongside... the immaturity of many people fueled my anger even more, since leaving the PA at those times, the hatred just increased seeing to what PA was decaying... prejuduce "hope i spelled it right" I might have...but when i hear PA i laugh...very simple finaly the time has come for this laughable alliance to die and i sincerly hope so, to see some other entity worthy of claiming allmighty venal region my 2 cents fisty ciao
Le Cardinal	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:28:00 - [6] Good post Lord Wimbishi. Pity that some ppl will smack it to death. Just want to say that we had a lot of fun in PA and made a lot of friends. Long live PA
D13S3L	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:30:00 - [7]
PirateShampoo	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:34:00 - [8] No offence but FoE would of done it a year ago but you guys cry'd like little girls to any other allaince that would listen to you. Shame they where to short sighted to c the bigger picture and only now realise how weak and unbenifical ur alliance actually was.
eddie valvetino	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:38:00 - [9] hmmm - shame about the smack - Just shows the general lack of intellect and honour LW - I'm personally sorry things didn't work out for PA and ECPR. ECPR Wish PA good luck, May the wind fill you sales and your horizon be clear Call on ECPR anytime Edd (\_/) (O.o) (> <)
eddie valvetino	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:39:00 - [10] Originally by: fisty Edited by: fisty on 13/03/2006 11:38:14 ive been in RONA when it was in the NVA and the beginning of the PA "those time the real corps made that alliance" soon after PA formed i was a R-K pilot, simply RONA just the pvp wing... as you have stated only the pvp corps and action fanatics showed up to combat, was then and is now "i presume", even fanatics grow tired of backing people's up that have only interest in making money and not help at matters like keeping enemies out of their space... i think that was the main problem of PA "at the beginning", while being in the PA at those times my anger grew with people not showing up for combat and have a handfull of corps come and fight alongside... the immaturity of many people fueled my anger even more, since leaving the PA at those times, the hatred just increased seeing to what PA was decaying... prejuduce "hope i spelled it right" I might have...but when i hear PA i laugh...very simple finaly the time has come for this laughable alliance to die and i sincerly hope so, to see some other entity worthy of claiming allmighty venal region my 2 cents fisty EDIT: hehe just came up with a very nice way of describing the PA i was used too...like a torrent...so many leechers so few seeders ..had to bring some humor in it:P . signed . sadly (\_/) (O.o) (> <)

Xaarist	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:51:00 - [11] Edited by: Xaarist on 13/03/2006 11:51:45 it looks like the phoenix prepares to rise from the ashes one more time tbh. keeping up old bonds of friendship is nice and an eager goal, since PA's corporations and members may go different directions. don't try it under PA banner, since it stands for something not worth to fight for in the opinion of many people. anyway, good luck keeping those together who worked for the alliance. imho, PA was 95% egoists and freelancers, and unworthy of holding any space. without the other northern alliances it's fall would have come earlier. you should thank .5. for showing the actually fighting members of PA how many muppets shared the same banner with them. of course that's only my opinion. ---------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination. ...if you don't know Happy Tree Friends, just imagine Teletubbies on LSD...
Garia666	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:56:00 - [12] Sometimes the Phoenix needs to burn before it can rise again. ADGA Website
Markie	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:57:00 - [13] Originally by: Black Lotus dont think he knows who fe is. funny he barely knows who nbsi are. must of read about us in story books, etc. joke of a leader imo. Look mam a flamer. why did you feel the need to say that? Lord wimbish, good read, shame you came to power so late. ROA Forums
Lord Wimbishi	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:06:00 - [14] Again I ask those who post do so with maturity. I will restrain my own opinions outside of everything since it lacks professionalism. I weigh the honor of my enemies on how he treats his foes. If lacking he gains none and will never find none on any road he travels and will always be found wanting.
Black Lotus	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:07:00 - [15] Edited by: Black Lotus on 13/03/2006 12:07:32 Originally by: Markie Look mam a flamer. why did you feel the need to say that? Lord wimbish, good read, shame you came to power so late. Um, maybe because i never seen him in any gang. i dont think he even fired one shot throughout the entire process of PA losing their space. Leaders must fight and die for their alliance to earn my respect. k?
Pehova Mindtriq	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:11:00 - [16] Originally by: PirateShampoo No offence but FoE would of done it a year ago but you guys cry'd like little girls to any other allaince that would listen to you. Shame they where to short sighted to c the bigger picture and only now realise how weak and unbenifical ur alliance actually was. Doubt FoE could have destroyed PA even if they were alone. With so many leaders afk at that time we would have struggled with taking their stations. Nice fleet battles sure, killing another alliance no.
Lord Wimbishi	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:16:00 - [17] Originally by: Black Lotus Edited by: Black Lotus on 13/03/2006 12:07:32 Originally by: Markie Look mam a flamer. why did you feel the need to say that? Lord wimbish, good read, shame you came to power so late. Um, maybe because i never seen him in any gang. i dont think he even fired one shot throughout the entire process of PA losing their space. Leaders must fight and die for their alliance to earn my respect. k? indeed I did and have on both accounts friend. anyone in my alliance and say that. I just wasn't up in S-E for you to see me, nor did I see you fight, would it be right for me to flame you in the same regard? No. It wouldn't. Save comments you wish to express in ignorance friend or you put your foot in your own mouth.
Black Lotus	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:20:00 - [18] Edited by: Black Lotus on 13/03/2006 12:22:07 Originally by: Lord Wimbishi Originally by: Black Lotus Edited by: Black Lotus on 13/03/2006 12:07:32 Originally by: Markie Look mam a flamer. why did you feel the need to say that? Lord wimbish, good read, shame you came to power so late. Um, maybe because i never seen him in any gang. i dont think he even fired one shot throughout the entire process of PA losing their space. Leaders must fight and die for their alliance to earn my respect. k? indeed I did and have on both accounts friend. anyone in my alliance and say that. I just wasn't up in S-E for you to see me, nor did I see you fight, would it be right for me to flame you in the same regard? No. It wouldn't. Save comments you wish to express in ignorance friend or you put your foot in your own mouth. Um yeah. You have 4 kills, all after PA lost all their space. Most recent kills before that was over 10months ago. Reason Ning was 10x the leader u claim to be. Check the killboards, u will see i was quite active, as was reaso's combat charcter. U however were not. In my eyes and many others Reaso was the true leader. My respect to Reaso ning. Also respect to Pacifica.
Lord Wimbishi	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:22:00 - [19] sure :) can't post to the PA killboard. anyways. ~waves you off and refrains anymore chat with you~
Anndy	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Black Lotus dont think he knows who fe is. funny he barely knows who nbsi are. must of read about us in story books, etc. joke of a leader imo. no need for that crap..... nice post Wimbishi, come over to fade and we'll kill people

christoforos	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:24:00 - [21] Originally by: Black Lotus Um, maybe because i never seen him in any gang. i dont think he even fired one shot throughout the entire process of PA losing their space. Leaders must fight and die for their alliance to earn my respect. k? Lord Wimbishi was away from the game for the last 8-9 months. He was only back in the last 1 month and tried to organize the alliance. He was a fleet commander for PA for many months last year and he was very good in motivating and leading people in battle. Noone who has been in PA can doubt his love, the loyalty and the hours he spent for the alliance. He has everyone's respect for trying, but it seems the task was simply impossible this time. I am personally proud for experiencing the history of this great alliance for almost 1,5 years. PA has been the most democratic territorial alliance in EVE. That was our greatest strength and our greatest weakness.
Black Lotus	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:29:00 - [22] Originally by: Lord Wimbishi NBSI like G will have my confidence in friendship always, though I knew little of them. I think that statement says it all.
Black Lotus	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:31:00 - [23] Originally by: christoforos Originally by: Black Lotus Um, maybe because i never seen him in any gang. i dont think he even fired one shot throughout the entire process of PA losing their space. Leaders must fight and die for their alliance to earn my respect. k? Lord Wimbishi was away from the game for the last 8-9 months. He was only back in the last 1 month and tried to organize the alliance. He was a fleet commander for PA for many months last year and he was very good in motivating and leading people in battle. Noone who has been in PA can doubt his love, the loyalty and the hours he spent for the alliance. He has everyone's respect for trying, but it seems the task was simply impossible this time. I am personally proud for experiencing the history of this great alliance for almost 1,5 years. PA has been the most democratic territorial alliance in EVE. That was our greatest strength and our greatest weakness. Actually, i have heard so much crap talked bout him it isnt even funny, all from PA members. but ok, whatever then. GL with ur "leader".
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:33:00 - [24] sooo PA's gonna disband? or just Wimbishi and his corp leaving? or is it PA head to empire and will raise some time again when .5. left? I dont mind such rp speeches, but clearly state at some point whats it about plz. Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Invisible Touch	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:34:00 - [25] Originally by: christoforos Originally by: Black Lotus Um, maybe because i never seen him in any gang. i dont think he even fired one shot throughout the entire process of PA losing their space. Leaders must fight and die for their alliance to earn my respect. k? Lord Wimbishi was away from the game for the last 8-9 months. He was only back in the last 1 month and tried to organize the alliance. He was a fleet commander for PA for many months last year and he was very good in motivating and leading people in battle. Noone who has been in PA can doubt his love, the loyalty and the hours he spent for the alliance. He has everyone's respect for trying, but it seems the task was simply impossible this time. I am personally proud for experiencing the history of this great alliance for almost 1,5 years. PA has been the most democratic territorial alliance in EVE. That was our greatest strength and our greatest weakness. QFT Finally there's no dark side in Eve
eddie valvetino	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:37:00 - [26] Originally by: Black Lotus Edited by: Black Lotus on 13/03/2006 12:07:32 Originally by: Markie Look mam a flamer. why did you feel the need to say that? Lord wimbish, good read, shame you came to power so late. Um, maybe because i never seen him in any gang. i dont think he even fired one shot throughout the entire process of PA losing their space. Leaders must fight and die for their alliance to earn my respect. k? dude you are so far of base it just ain't true... PA was dead long before LW came to the helm and quite frankly he was the only person in PA with the stones to do it. This is a guy with true honour and pride and you choose to burn him. how dare you attack him for not being in a gang... as far as i could see NBSI ended up just hiding in tenal *****ing cos your bufferzone (PA space) was falling rather than coming to help... I never saw you in a gang either... so what does that say? NBSI even fire on freindlies who are trying to help them in combat. tell me.. would you kick a man when he's down? No don't tell me... you'll only confirm my opinion on you, you're corp and NBSI as a whole. seems e-r and black lance are the only two NBSI or ex-NBSI corps with any intelligence, honour or empathy. See ya in space (\_/) (O.o) (> <)
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:41:00 - [27] It appears that the myth of the phoenix was just that. A myth. A name and a legand is not enough to give life to what is dead. Empires are built on unity and dedication, not on the persuit of individual wealth or mantras of the past. Everything that is born eventually dies. For things to rise from the dead is unnatural. In this case it looks as if nature has prevailed at last. The PA will live on forever in our memories. However in this galaxcy the flame of the phoenix has finally flickered out for good. The lesson learned here is that naming your alliance after an immortal creature does not make your alliance immortal. If this were the case 90% of eve would be in the "Free Beer and Immune to Concorde Alliance".
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:44:00 - [28] Originally by: pershphanie If this were the case 90% of eve would be in the "Free Beer and Immune to Concorde Alliance". we can but dream
eddie valvetino	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:45:00 - [29] Originally by: pershphanie It appears that the myth of the phoenix was just that. A myth. A name and a legand is not enough to give life to what is dead. Empires are built on unity and dedication, not on the persuit of individual wealth or mantras of the past. Everything that is born eventually dies. For things to rise from the dead is unnatural. In this case it looks as if nature has prevailed at last. The PA will live on forever in our memories. However in this galaxcy the flame of the phoenix has finally flickered out for good. The lesson learned here is that naming your alliance after an immortal creature does not make your alliance immortal. If this were the case 90% of eve would be in the "Free Beer and Immune to Concorde Alliance". crawl back under your stone... turncoat (\_/) (O.o) (> <)
PirateShampoo	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:48:00 - [30] This was a year ago, so bearing in mind that the only thing they would of had to do was shoot the sheilds and thats that.



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