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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.09 23:24:00 -
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How did you get the armour up to 1.1k?
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.10 01:29:00 -
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Edited by: Ira Weatheral on 09/09/2003 20:38:05
As someone mentioned above, one of the nice things with drones is the ability to mix damage types. I typically do Kinetic, EM, and Thermal damage. This flexibility is IMHO a *very* good thing.
What scout/heavy drones do the above damage?
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.10 10:18:00 -
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Take it no one has an answer for either of my questions?
Or simply:
Bump.
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Lola
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Posted - 2003.09.10 11:01:00 -
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I think you'd want 2 Heavy Modulated Beam Lasers w/ MultiFreq crystal, an H-50 launcher with Wraths, a smartbomb or cap drainer (you have the free slot to use)
Mid slots shield booster is a must. A shield hardener based on the damage type you're facing is good to. Something to boost your speed is also nice. You have a lot of choices for mid slots.
Low slots are good for cap power relays and extruded heat sinks. I'm not sure if you will need a photonic and they are getting nerfed anyway.
For drones go Wasp or Ogre since you have lasers to do EM/Therm.
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Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2003.09.10 11:28:00 -
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1 thing dont use missile dsor smartbombs or say bye bye to the drones get an EW module ther eif u can or leave it blank. Id go for half wasps half hammerheads for drones and some med beams if u can but med anythong will work i guess dmg mods in low sheild enhancers/rechargers , EW whatever u want in the middle.
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2003.09.10 14:44:00 -
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Praetor = EM(10)[16]
Wasp = Kinetic(11)[18]
Berserker = Explosive(12)[16]
Ogre = Thermal(13)[18]
(damage)[damage as of chaos build 1200/1201]
wasps are about the most common bp/bpc as far as I know (they were for some time found only in cache containers .. not sure they still are, but there getting added to the market next patch anyway)
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1 thing dont use missile dsor smartbombs or say bye bye to the drones
as of 1200/1201 drons orbit a lot further out .. so this wont be true :) but keep an eye on the patch notes when it hits to see if it stays that way :)
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.10 19:31:00 -
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Aye, I'm thinking about training up my ebergy turret skill as time permits. For the mid slots, I've just about decided to go with a shield booster, shield hardner, and a named AB. The low sltos tho I'm still trying to figure out what to fit.
In reguard to the missles, drones and smartbombs not mixing, I'm still going to use missles. But, the smartbomb will wait for now. As for EW, I don't really plan on training for it since I don't PvP that much.
Thanks for the Heavy Drones stats Zyrla. Looks like the drones will become stronger.
Ps: 4 days till Amarr frig 4, So I'll be picking it up real soon. Back to mining.
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Shayden
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Posted - 2003.09.10 21:14:00 -
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Aku, the skill Hull upgrades gives 5% more armor hp per level. I have that lvl 4 and that gives the arbitrator 1050 armor hp, then fit a 50mm or 100mm plating, it gives a pretty strong armor. Or the enegized nanos i believe they are 12.5% more armor.
Good luck
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.10 21:29:00 -
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Ah, Ok. I already have the hull upgrade skill. I shouldn't have killed that can with the 50mm Armour Plating.
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.11 00:05:00 -
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Can anyone give me some names of some of the looted dmg mods (Hybrid, Projectile, and Energy), to help with my weapons tests when I get the new ship? Again, Thanks in Advance.
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.11 21:05:00 -
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Bump. Just trying to keep this topic up until I get me ship.
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2003.09.12 03:46:00 -
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Edited by: Vel Kyri on 12/09/2003 03:58:35
Ooh.
The Arbitrator is a beautiful ship :)
I just put one together, loaded it with cap rechargers (low slots) and i can fit it out for exploring really well - i can fit a MWD on it, and 2 heavy beam lasers, autotargetter, med shield booster, em ward,.
i can mwd constantly at about 1.5km/sec and cap stays around 50%.
or i can fire the beams and keep all shields up constantly and cap sits around 70%...
then you have a lot of drones to think about :)
i love this ship :)
looks cool too :)
Edit:
some useful information
i have engineering skills up the yin-yang, so my powercore, cap, and cpu are as hi as i can get them - but i can load up the biggest lasers i can find (M Heavy Beam lasers x2), autotargetter, Med shield booster, tactical shield (depending on who the target is) and a afterburner (or MWD) and they all fit with space left (ie, space for a launcher too)
its overpowered for the slots it has.
ideally you would use radio crystals to take out the shields of enemy craft, and use thermal/explosive dealing drones to finish off the ships.
in low slot i tend to use lots of cap rechargers as i like to be able to fight for a long time non-stop (chaining npc rats) I always go for sustainability rather than max damage(for npc hunting)
Hope it helps
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2003.09.12 05:15:00 -
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You might consider specializing in short range enounters with energy neutralizer and pulses with multifrequency (and radio to switch to for medium range) or neutron blasters, then you could use a MWD and armor reinforcements in the low slots...
Maybe some cap stuff in the other two medium slots to make up for the mwd :P
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.12 10:20:00 -
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Looks like I'll be trying the short range setup as soon as I get the Arb. Btw how do you chain kill NPC's? I've been playing just about 4-5 months and still haven't figured it out.
Ps: 2 days some hours till I can fly the Arb!
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2003.09.12 10:55:00 -
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Hmm, never thought about that short range set up - looks very do-able.
But doesn't that negate the very idea of drones? ie - send em out to 30-50k away (scout drone skill up high) and sit back a long way away.
I would tend more to using mid slots for range increasing and targetting modules (need right skills for this) to increase the targetting range (maybe out to 50 - 60k) and stay well clear of the fighting..
as to chain killing - thats not that hard. Just kill every pirate except the last one - leave him damaged and flying around, and new ones respawn faster.
hope this helps :)
(also looking for abyone seling bezerker drones?)
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.12 19:07:00 -
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Aye thought about the short range setup in school today and was thinking the same thing.
Thats all there is to chain killing NPC's? Gezz, after all this time I thought that there was more to it. Does this work on any NPC?
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.12 19:55:00 -
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Right. Never having bought shield hardners before in my 4-5 months of playing EVE, I have no clue on what I am looking for in the market. Can someone let me know what I'm looking for?
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Scarlet Dresari
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Posted - 2003.09.12 20:38:00 -
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Akunosh, thanks for making this post and thanks to all the information from other posters!
I found the information really helpful for a relative new player to the game. Between this thread and the other one on the forum about lesser used ships, it's really got my thinking about the great variety of ships in EVE and their possibilities if you just think about them instead of looking purely at stats.
Besides the price of the Arb is definately attractive for newer players like myself.
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.12 21:59:00 -
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Glad to have helped.
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Reina Heikan
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Posted - 2003.09.12 22:35:00 -
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Right. Never having bought shield hardners before in my 4-5 months of playing EVE, I have no clue on what I am looking for in the market. Can someone let me know what I'm looking for?
First, make sure you have the Tactical Shield Manipulation skill, as you'll need that to run hardeners. Then look for a Photon Scattering Field (EM), Ballistic Deflection Field (kinetic), Heat Dissipation Field (thermal), or Explosive Dampening Field (explosive). I'm pretty sure they're all found under the Shield Subsystems category in market.
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.12 23:09:00 -
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Thanks, just saved a Photon Scattering from the recycling vats. Hmm Looks I'll need to go skill shopping.
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2003.09.13 01:53:00 -
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My first combat cruiser is an Arb (as opposed to my first ever cruiser, which is an Omen I reserved for mining). I lost the Arb through some carelessness.
Reading this thread, I feel like getting an Arb again. That ship really shows you what you can do with just two turrets, and surprisingly a lot, if you do it right.
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Roba
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Posted - 2003.09.13 02:06:00 -
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I have an arb and its a very good ship. If you have the right skills it has good armor and struct and half decent sheilds.
Also you only need two turrets to clear roid rats if you have prots and some good mods in the low slots. 1500 drones is only beat by the Thorax. Also anyone that has an arb knows its one of the best looking ships in the game. Its th only one that I have seen that has glass as part of its hull allowing you to see inside and through the ship. Pretty cool if you ask me.
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.13 02:56:00 -
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-sigh- Everyone telling me how good it looks doesn't help since I won't be in it until about Sunday.
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2003.09.13 07:23:00 -
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Arbitrators in NPC action is easy to find.
Many of them in different colors, patrol the gates of the Amarr empire and loyal territories like the Khanid and Ammatar. Given the faction---Amarr, Sarum, Ammatar, Khanid---the color of the Arbitrator is different.
I have not seen NPC pirate Arbitrators in deep 0.0 space, but in various pirate spawns, they appear as a nasty thing called the Blood Arch-Engraver. They have a mean habit of scrambling, then blasting out your shields with EM lasers and missiles. I lost my Rifter to one of these long ago.
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"Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies,
"Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
"Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.13 16:43:00 -
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Guess I'll fly out to Amarr space to take a peek at one.
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Rath Amon
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Posted - 2003.09.13 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Rath Amon on 13/09/2003 18:16:14
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I have an arb and its a very good ship. If you have the right skills it has good armor and struct and half decent sheilds.
Also you only need two turrets to clear roid rats if you have prots and some good mods in the low slots. 1500 drones is only beat by the Thorax. Also anyone that has an arb knows its one of the best looking ships in the game. Its th only one that I have seen that has glass as part of its hull allowing you to see inside and through the ship. Pretty cool if you ask me.
Sure, the model is pretty cool but it has Minmatar logos on it for some unknown reason which is a big negative in my book. In any case it's a lousy ship. In fact the only cruiser worse than the Arbitrator is the Auguror. The Amarr really got some winners.
If you really want a good level 2 cruiser either get an Omen or a Vexor, both of which are faster, tougher, more powerful, and just better in every way except drones. I don't really bother much with drones since they're such a pain in the ass to use.
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.13 19:50:00 -
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Sure, the model is pretty cool but it has Minmatar logos on it for some unknown reason which is a big negative in my book. In any case it's a lousy ship. In fact the only cruiser worse than the Arbitrator is the Auguror. The Amarr really got some winners.
If you really want a good level 2 cruiser either get an Omen or a Vexor, both of which are faster, tougher, more powerful, and just better in every way except drones. I don't really bother much with drones since they're such a pain in the ass to use.
Well quite frankly, I don't plan on training Gallente. Their ships are way to common and its really annoying.
I'll take a look at the Omen.
They be a pain in hte ass to you, but I realy don't mind using them at all.
Oh and the Minmatar logo on the side lets every other race know we build your ships.
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.14 04:03:00 -
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Wel I now own the Arb, its just a matter of finishing Amarr frig 4 and getting Amarr crusier 2. Btw I'm going to try out a medium hybrid setup since my friend had a coule 250mm rails lying around and I'm closer to using medium hybrids than lasers.
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.09.15 21:19:00 -
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Tonight I finally fly my Arb! (About damn time)
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