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Rells
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Posted - 2006.03.14 14:49:00 -
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Here are the top myths people seem to believe when new or old. Time to ***** them.
1) Eve is so easy that Oveur's little dog Toto likes to play.
Well, Eve is a deep game and the depth is often not realized by people new to the game. The tutorials are there to help you get started but I have been plaiyng Eve off and on for 2 years and I still dont know everything there is to know about this game. Start small; the more you learn, the more you will realize how much you dont know.
2) Instajump bookmarks make you invincible.
Hardly. Most combat in either happens as you EXIT a gate, accelerating to warp or because you were sucked in by a well placed warp bubble. Stopping poeple in Eve takes player skill and it should. Tedium for tedium's sake (ie slowing down every ship in the game so that someone without skill can catch them on 0.1% of the gates that are camped) is silly.
3) Instajump bookmarks means a freighter can travel as fast as a frig.
Try it. The freighter wont warp as fast. The freighter wont accelerate as fast or align as fast. There is a reason many expereinced pilots still love tech 1 and 2 frigs despite being able to drive a BS.
4) You need millions of skill points and 6 months in the game to pvp.
The reality is that a fleet 10 to 15 of players with 2 week old characters with about 3 hours of training, some courage and determination can easily destroy a three year old player driving his battleship.
Skill points let you do more things but they wont make you any better at PvP. What will make you better at pvp is player knowledge, training and experience. Unlike EQ, AO, DAoC and the other MMOGs out there, a 2 year old player is not invincible to 2 week old players.
5) If you dont drive a battleship, you will not be able to pvp, ie: bigger guns win!
Defnitely not true. Battleships are taken out by interceptors on a daily basis. In fact, a battleship fitted with biggest guns to win cant even hit a tech 1 frigate worth a darn if its driven by a competent pilot.
6) Hauling just means you are a sitting duck.
Equip some jammers in all those mids. Jam the other guy and fly off. There are strategies to handle this sort of thing just as there are strategies for everything else in this game. Your brain is the only limiting fact. I even know a guy who has ROUTINELY killed interceptors with a Badger Mk II.
7) Pirates cant be killed!
I think most of them would disagree with this. PvP in eve means you will be killed sooner or later. I have been killed more times than I can count. Pirates rely on the scatter effect. They warp in on a ratting crew and the crew scatters to the four winds. They catch one ship and destroy it. If that ship's friends had stayed there it is likely the pirate would be the one in a pod.
8) To go into 0.0 you need millions of skill points and billions of isk.
I was there with 50k skillpoints on this char and 4 mil isk. Just enough to buy a tackler. Corps are always recruiting. The only thing stopping you is you.
9) Eve is a lonely solo game.
Any game can be lonely if you choose to stay alone. Join a corp, get out there and make friends. There are 100k people playing eve at last count and they cant all be bad. 
10) Eve takes a lot of real life time commitment.
Eve, especially Eve PvP, is very addictive but with the offline training paradigm you dont have to have the butt in seat time you do with other games. This lets you concentrate on getting rich and having fun, not getting the next level.
Im sure there are more, I invite all vetrans to contribute.
-- Rells
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.03.14 15:08:00 -
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You run this whole 'PvP University' thing and you really think some of this? Wow. Some people must have wasted some ISK :)
 Originally by: Rells
2) Instajump bookmarks make you invincible.
Hardly. Most combat in either happens as you EXIT a gate, accelerating to warp or because you were sucked in by a well placed warp bubble. Stopping poeple in Eve takes player skill and it should. Tedium for tedium's sake (ie slowing down every ship in the game so that someone without skill can catch them on 0.1% of the gates that are camped) is silly.
Stopping people in Eve takes very little player skill. If it took player skill, then skilled pilots would get out of bubble camps without dying. You're overstating here, a lot.
Originally by: Rells
5) If you dont drive a battleship, you will not be able to pvp, ie: bigger guns win!
Defnitely not true. Battleships are taken out by interceptors on a daily basis. In fact, a battleship fitted with biggest guns to win cant even hit a tech 1 frigate worth a darn if its driven by a competent pilot.
Interceptors can't kill battleships unless there's a massive SP and skill difference between the two players - and by that, I mean the battleship pilot is an idiot. Sure, frigates can do nasty things to battleships, but again, you're overstating the facts.
And a battleship driven and fitted by a competent pilot will indeed kill frigates.
Originally by: Rells
9) Eve is a lonely solo game.
That's a popular myth? Really?
Originally by: Rells
10) Eve takes a lot of real life time commitment.
That's a popular myth? O RLY?
I don't mean to be nasty at all, and you do make some valid (if generally irrelevent) points, but it seems to me that this post is not myth-busting, merely touting for business, and doing it with half truths. I hope my responses clear up some of these invented myths for new players.
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Jernau Gurgeh
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Posted - 2006.03.14 15:14:00 -
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11) Missiles suck.
In reality, they're actually quite good.
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Astorothe
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Posted - 2006.03.14 15:19:00 -
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Great post - light hearted but good advice and I enjoyed the read. Another for my bookmarks.
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Jimmy Phelan
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Posted - 2006.03.14 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
9) Eve is a lonely solo game.
Any game can be lonely if you choose to stay alone. Join a corp, get out there and make friends. There are 100k people playing eve at last count and they cant all be bad.
So how does a solo player actually meet people in-game then?
I've been playing for nearly a week now and the only interaction I've had with any other players was in an impromptu gang last night.
Yes, it was great. We teamed up for about half an hour and smacked down some drones. Then he headed off to low-sec space in his Rifter while I decided my Slasher with its two pop-guns and 1MN AB wasn't quite ready yet.
So how does a new player actually MEET other players? I won't go around blind-inviting everyone to gang up with me, that's just not polite.
I've tried the local and rookie chats, but in my experience, people aren't really interested in what you have to say in there.
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.03.14 15:29:00 -
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Edited by: Testy Mctest on 14/03/2006 15:29:50
Originally by: Jimmy Phelan
Originally by: Rells
9) Eve is a lonely solo game.
Any game can be lonely if you choose to stay alone. Join a corp, get out there and make friends. There are 100k people playing eve at last count and they cant all be bad.
So how does a solo player actually meet people in-game then?
I've been playing for nearly a week now and the only interaction I've had with any other players was in an impromptu gang last night.
Yes, it was great. We teamed up for about half an hour and smacked down some drones. Then he headed off to low-sec space in his Rifter while I decided my Slasher with its two pop-guns and 1MN AB wasn't quite ready yet.
So how does a new player actually MEET other players? I won't go around blind-inviting everyone to gang up with me, that's just not polite.
I've tried the local and rookie chats, but in my experience, people aren't really interested in what you have to say in there.
Join the recruitment channel, and join a corp.
or (the better way)
Get yourself up to a level where you can PvP. Head to lowsec or 0.0, and PvP. People that are out of core systems - ie, pvp'ers - tend to have a little seperate community of their own. Impress someone by killing them, or dying and not smacktalking, and generally playing well, and you'll make yourself friends and maybe earn yourself corp invites. I've recruited more than a few people after killing them or being killed by them.
There used to be a sig here, but I got bored of it.
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2006.03.14 15:31:00 -
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Solo players do not interact with the game
This is one of the biggest myths. In reality solo players contribute plenty of things to the market, as well as striking up conversations in local. No man is an island and that includes solo players.
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Jimmy Phelan
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Posted - 2006.03.14 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Join the recruitment channel, and join a corp.
or (the better way)
Get yourself up to a level where you can PvP. Head to lowsec or 0.0, and PvP.
Thank you, sir!
I'll check the recruitment channel tonight. If it doesn't pay off, I'll head to lowsec as soon as I can afford to lose a frig. 
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Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2006.03.14 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jimmy Phelan
Originally by: Rells
9) Eve is a lonely solo game.
Any game can be lonely if you choose to stay alone. Join a corp, get out there and make friends. There are 100k people playing eve at last count and they cant all be bad.
So how does a solo player actually meet people in-game then?
I've been playing for nearly a week now and the only interaction I've had with any other players was in an impromptu gang last night.
Yes, it was great. We teamed up for about half an hour and smacked down some drones. Then he headed off to low-sec space in his Rifter while I decided my Slasher with its two pop-guns and 1MN AB wasn't quite ready yet.
So how does a new player actually MEET other players? I won't go around blind-inviting everyone to gang up with me, that's just not polite.
I've tried the local and rookie chats, but in my experience, people aren't really interested in what you have to say in there.
Join a corp wich fit your life style.
Join a corp wich have at least 10 - 20 active members.
Eve is about player organizations.. the first step is to join a corp. the second is to get into a alliance and into 0.0 space.
My corporation invite our starters into 0.0 on day one, and you know what they do well.. after the first week, they are fully capable fleet taclers!, and they help a lot in pvp. Old players can fly their nasty battleships while the new players fill the role of the support, in cruisers against enemy taclers, or on frigs for tacling.
In money making, new players can help out by haulling for the older miner in barges, or can collect the loot, for for the NPC-ers. help out in fueling and keeping the POSes runing.
I realy suggest you to join a corp wich use TS or Ventrillo every day, and not just for corp ops.
In our corp being on ventrilo even if you are afk is mandantory... it make a corp much much more better, and ppl will be real friends.
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This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the HUN Corporation in any way.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.03.14 15:43:00 -
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12) Our logs show nothing abnormal...
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Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk
[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
[07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.03.14 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Jimmy Phelan
Originally by: Testy Mctest
Join the recruitment channel, and join a corp.
or (the better way)
Get yourself up to a level where you can PvP. Head to lowsec or 0.0, and PvP.
Thank you, sir!
I'll check the recruitment channel tonight. If it doesn't pay off, I'll head to lowsec as soon as I can afford to lose a frig.
I've recruited more people who have been killed by me than I've been killed by - mostly because when people die, and it's a good fight, and you talk about it in local afterwards, you instantly gain a lot of respect for that person. And if you respect someone, you're 100 times more likely to want to get to know them and have them flying with you :)
There used to be a sig here, but I got bored of it.
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Emily Spankratchet
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Posted - 2006.03.14 15:48:00 -
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13) Popping 'roids is bad and will cause all your lovely crokite to be replaced with veld.
Well, I think it's a myth anyway. I'm sure people will disagree.
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Jimmy Phelan
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Posted - 2006.03.14 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Balazs Simon
...while the new players fill the role of the support...
I've nothing against playing the support role. Heck, I play a lot of healers and controllers in other MMOGs.
I play a few tanks too, just to satisfy my masochistic side. 
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jimmy Phelan
I play a few tanks too, just to satisfy my masochistic side.
Masochistic? Hell, I find tanking to be a feeling of pure POWER. Just sitting there soaking up damage doing MC Hammer's "Can't Touch This" rocks. Especially if you can do the dance and play EVE at the same time. Which I can't. 
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Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk
[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
[07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Yurdis Astor
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Yurdis Astor on 14/03/2006 16:08:37
14) The T2 Market is not broken
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:11:00 -
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15) Lists are fun
no skills, just luck.
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xeom
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:19:00 -
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'Don't pop that ore tom! it will take longer to respawn'
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Herko Kerghans on 14/03/2006 16:21:57
Originally by: Rells
10) Eve takes a lot of real life time commitment.
(...)This lets you concentrate on getting rich(...)
16)There is no grind in Eve; you just train skills offline, so no need to grind for anything.
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GoGo Yubari
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:24:00 -
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I don't think people believe Eve is an easy game ... ?
Another myth, on a slightly different vein:
SHIPS DON'T REQUIRE CREWS.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Hans Roaming on 14/03/2006 16:26:03
17) If you ever go to 0.0 or low sec you will instantly die and loose all your ships and isk
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Skooney
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jimmy Phelan
Originally by: Rells
9) Eve is a lonely solo game.
Any game can be lonely if you choose to stay alone. Join a corp, get out there and make friends. There are 100k people playing eve at last count and they cant all be bad.
So how does a solo player actually meet people in-game then?
I've been playing for nearly a week now and the only interaction I've had with any other players was in an impromptu gang last night.
Yes, it was great. We teamed up for about half an hour and smacked down some drones. Then he headed off to low-sec space in his Rifter while I decided my Slasher with its two pop-guns and 1MN AB wasn't quite ready yet.
So how does a new player actually MEET other players? I won't go around blind-inviting everyone to gang up with me, that's just not polite.
I've tried the local and rookie chats, but in my experience, people aren't really interested in what you have to say in there.
Go to the Recruitment part of the forums, there are 100's if not 1000's of corporations recruiting everyday!
Check out Corporation web-sites.
Or like stated above, go to the recruitment channel, although I find that is mostly recruiters and not recruitees.
hint: We are recruiting as well.
Fly Safe.
Universal Agencies
www.rlelectric.ca/ua.htm
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Jimmy Phelan
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Masochistic? Hell, I find tanking to be a feeling of pure POWER. Just sitting there soaking up damage doing MC Hammer's "Can't Touch This" rocks. Especially if you can do the dance and play EVE at the same time. Which I can't.
Hehe! I can't dance either.
For some reason, all my tanks tend to lack offensive power. So, they can take a beating, but they really can't do anything to stop it.
Definately masochistic.
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Jimmy Phelan
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Roaming
Edited by: Hans Roaming on 14/03/2006 16:26:03
17) If you ever go to 0.0 or low sec you will instantly die and loose all your ships and isk
It happened to me!!!
Well, not ME me, but definately to a friend of mine!
Actually, it wasn't exactly to my friend, but a friend of a friend.
Of a friend.
So it definately happens!
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Jimmy Phelan
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Skooney
Go to the Recruitment part of the forums, there are 100's if not 1000's of corporations recruiting everyday!
Check out Corporation web-sites.
hint: We are recruiting as well.
Fly Safe.
It's been a few days since I checked the Recruitment forum. I wasn't really looking for a corp then, but I am now, so I'll definately look again here in a few minutes!
I've been checking a few corp websites here and there over the past couple days. People sure put a lot of work into some of them!
Mind if I send you a resume?
Safe travels to you as well, and thank you!
(And many, many apologies for the triple(!)-post. Edit just doesn't seem to work on this PC. I need to check for firewall settings or something...)
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jimmy Phelan
Originally by: Rells
9) Eve is a lonely solo game.
Any game can be lonely if you choose to stay alone. Join a corp, get out there and make friends. There are 100k people playing eve at last count and they cant all be bad.
So how does a solo player actually meet people in-game then?
I've been playing for nearly a week now and the only interaction I've had with any other players was in an impromptu gang last night.
Yes, it was great. We teamed up for about half an hour and smacked down some drones. Then he headed off to low-sec space in his Rifter while I decided my Slasher with its two pop-guns and 1MN AB wasn't quite ready yet.
So how does a new player actually MEET other players? I won't go around blind-inviting everyone to gang up with me, that's just not polite.
I've tried the local and rookie chats, but in my experience, people aren't really interested in what you have to say in there.
Join a corp. Give me a tell and if we get to know each other I can reccomend you as an apprectice of sorts. =) Join my pvp classes too. They have lots of people just like you.
-- Rells
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Whoresome
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:51:00 -
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18) .5 to 1.0 is safe space.........
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Himoane
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:55:00 -
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19) Whining won't help..
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Yurdis Astor
14) The T2 Market is broken
Fixed. The above is the actual myth.
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Bad Businessman
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Posted - 2006.03.14 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Yurdis Astor
14) The T2 Market is broken
Fixed. The above is the actual myth.
If you criticize it, he will come. 
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Taketa De
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Posted - 2006.03.14 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Yurdis Astor
14) The T2 Market is broken
Fixed. The above is the actual myth.
tbh, it purely depends on your given value of broken...
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