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Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 11:06:00 - [1] Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:30:01 Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:23:03 edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact. All posts had nuthing to do with the original post, hence i took it out. All the flames made no sense at all. as no one read the initial post. its a shame what the EVE-Community... ops i meant EVE-Flamers have done to this forum.
Raven DeBlade	Posted - 2003.09.09 12:20:00 - [2] agree "To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees" "Any statements made above this line are my persona"
Zodiac Laserstorm	Posted - 2003.09.09 12:41:00 - [3] eer, right, you guys do realize how many more GMs we would need to cover EVERY SINGLE QUESTION that pops up here and there? Next we need to have GMs in the IRC rooms, in every star system (in case someone asks something in the "local" rooms), we need GMs in the forums, the help channel and about 20 more GMs so the petition queue slips beneath a week... Righto, who's going to pay my monthly 60$ fee for EVE then to pay all these GMs?
Uma Kruytls	Posted - 2003.09.09 12:46:00 - [4] Ehm, too much ranting and not many clear points here, lost interest in the 2nd paragraph, think most GMs will too. If you want them to be effective then at least don't waste their time typing something that is hard on the eye and equally hard to grasp.
Dandria	Posted - 2003.09.09 12:57:00 - [5] Why bother being logical. This thread will sit here unaswered. And they will ultimatly do what ever they want anyway, it is there game and they hold all the cards. Posting about stuff like this is a waste of time. ---------------------------- Need a ship? We Have It!
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:10:00 - [6] Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:23:16 edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact.
Nupraptor	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:11:00 - [7] Edited by: Nupraptor on 09/09/2003 14:11:17 Quote: Why bother being logical. This thread will sit here unaswered. And they will ultimatly do what ever they want anyway, it is there game and they hold all the cards. Posting about stuff like this is a waste of time. How was ur flame logical dumb****. posting stuff like this is just bein an ass, and a Waste of time. k thx.
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:12:00 - [8] Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:23:33 edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact.
Daesdemona	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:15:00 - [9] Edited by: Daesdemona on 09/09/2003 14:23:28 cancelled by me ----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't*" -----------------------------------------------
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:15:00 - [10] Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:23:49 edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact.
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:17:00 - [11] Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:24:07 edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact.
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:21:00 - [12] to dasmeflaming *****. I DO NOT expect nor want the GM's answering all the petetions that make it into the forums like jacks( just using u as an example jack ) If they did, everyone would just come here and spam the forums , so that would be a bad thing. What i would like to see: I would like to see the GM's respond to official probelms that affect everyone. i think this would give people a much better sense of customer support. NOW U THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR EVRYONE TO SEND A PETETION ABOUT THE JUMP-IN POINT EXPLOIT?? U ARE DUMB AS A BAG OF ROCKS. THAT WOULD ONLY CLTTER THE PETETION SYSTEM. WHERE AS IF THEY CAME OUT WITH A SIMPLE RESPONSE. THE PETETION SYSTEM WOULDNT GET CLUTTERED. WITH 1000'S OF PETETIONS THAT COULD BE ANSWERED IN 1 POST\NEWS. ANYWAYS, I KNOW U CANT UNDERSTAND THIS. SO NM.
Daesdemona	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:24:00 - [13] OK, I re-read your post, I had initially skimmed through it, I apologize for my hasty remarks. Calling me a dumbass certainly does not lend any credibility to your cause though, so about that, ** off. About your post, you raise good issues, not ones that GMs need to address though, rather CCP and the Devs. This is the right place to voice your concerns, but you should know that devs and GMs "rarely" post here. The idea lab is a good place to constructively criticize the current issue, maybe even suggest a solution. ----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't**" -----------------------------------------------
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:25:00 - [14] Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 14:26:13 call u a dumass, was justified. as u were bein a dumass, by flaming and not reading, like most of the n00bs do here. k thx U are well known as the neighbourhood flamer. do u read no ones post??
Daesdemona	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:26:00 - [15] ps. The jump-in point technique is not an Exploit until CCP declares it such. hands valium ----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't*" -----------------------------------------------
Daesdemona	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:28:00 - [16] Quote: call u a dumass, was justified. as u were bein a dumass, by flaming and not reading, like most of the n00bs do here. k thx Actually it was NOT. Being rude is never justified, maybe it made you feel better, maybe again you felt you had the right to call me a dumBass because of my behavior and your superior judgemental position. hands larger dose of valium. ----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't*" -----------------------------------------------
Daesdemona	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:30:00 - [17] Quote: U are well known as the neighbourhood flamer. do u read no ones post?? I am? didn't know that, I thought at least 30% of my posts were insightful. ----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't" -----------------------------------------------
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:30:00 - [18] Quote: ps. The jump-in point technique is not an Exploit until CCP declares it such. hands valium Ok lets be realistic, if u can do that. it will be an exploit . the gm's\devs\whomever just hasnt addressed it yet, and i dont see why not. people are bein killed b4 there damn client even loads. They need to adress the issues faster. thats my damn point. exploits are ruining the game. and are not bein hadled by gm's. have i been a victim of an exploit?? nope. Have i seen many good players leave do to exploits? YES. a simple banning of exploiters might of kept alot of people around. its a shame. but of all people i would expect u to consider this fair play.. I post a completly fine post, and of course u ******s have nuthing goood to say, so why not flame right? get a life. at least my post was to help something.
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:31:00 - [19] Quote: Actually it was NOT. Being rude is never justified, maybe it made you feel better, maybe again you felt you had the right to call me a dumBass because of my behavior and your superior judgemental position. *hands larger dose of valium. u are just a flamer who likes to flame. u never have any decent posts. now u think u shouldnt get flamed back? lmao. cry me a river sister.
Daesdemona	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:35:00 - [20] I was just trying to show you respect because of the nature of your post, I rarely use derogatory language as if you are tryign to point out another's stupidity using words such as 'dumass' does not really reinforce your stance. I realize you are obsessed by flames, but you should realize that if I feel the need to flame someone I can go on forums dedicated to such activity. Maybe you should take the valiums I keep handing you, if you are lucky you will find inner peace, if we are you will overdose. ----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't" -----------------------------------------------
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:38:00 - [21] Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:24:22 edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact.
Daesdemona	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:40:00 - [22] Notice how I immediately admitted when I found out about my mistake? I have no problem doing so, you on the other hand just need help. ----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't" -----------------------------------------------
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:43:00 - [23] Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:24:36 edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact.
Daesdemona	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:47:00 - [24] I refer you back to the other posts whee this was asked. I am bored at work, just finished reading "life of Pi" so I am taking a break, is that ok with you? no? ok I'll stop posting now... You are a living contradiction, you criticize my actions and act worse yourself... If you were the bigger adult you would walk away from this and show me. If you post again I will walk away. So however it goes, its a win-win situation for me. Welcome to the club. ----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't" -----------------------------------------------
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:51:00 - [25] Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:24:51 edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact.
Intruders	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:53:00 - [26] Quote: Sylena Ok lets put this simple. the last 3 posters are whiners. Now where did i say answer all question u dumbf%ck. i said answer the ones that affect the community as a whole. learn how to read. Learn how to flame. whiny trolls. I would classify that as whining and ***ing too. You probably lost something valuable due to what you call an exploit and that might be the system dropp-off point camping tactic. I may think that if you belong to an alliance that recently lost some ships this way, it may seem from your post that, recouping from losses which someone from that alliance claimed isnt actually a truth, else you wouldnt be so ed. Camping points are a game mechanics weakness, but instead on letting other pray on those weaknesses you wont go jumping like a lemming when someone says you should jump. This weakness is known from day one of playing EVE, just some people are so shortsided who actually wait for the disaster to hit their door to demand a change of this feature. Again you might not be a part of any alliance that losts ships during due to camping but yet again many of the above I mentined still apply.. You its there, you should be more carefull, anyway by all means I do support the random dropp-off points when gating to another system to be implemented in future. Personally I am just a little bit ed that no one cares unless someone does it to him, and then we all have to hear him * about it and call other people names. Thats why I posted a reply here. Every man lives..but not every man dies!** My sig sux
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 14:56:00 - [27] Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:25:05 edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact.
Dandria	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:00:00 - [28] When this thread sits here and never gets answered by a gm you will understand that you are wasting your breath. I am not saying I do not agree. Just that this thread is a waste of time. ---------------------------- Need a ship? We Have It!
Uma Kruytls	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:02:00 - [29] I think your entire post is a rant, the points if there are any are obscured by it being very poorly written and reeking of teen angst.
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:03:00 - [30] Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:25:19 edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact.
Nupraptor	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:04:00 - [31] Quote: I think your entire post is a rant, the points if there are any are obscured by it being very poorly written and reeking of teen angst. LOL asking for them to officially respond to exploits in a decent manner is a rant. lol. ur post is a rant, k thx. bye
nono	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:13:00 - [32] Quote: Quote: LOL well. polaris seem to have enough time to lock posts constantly. they cant get answers for the MAJOR questions? Obviously locking posts which break the forum rules (like this one for example) is easy enough with the click of a mouse. Retrieving answers about problems from the development team includes a great deal of other work including turn around time for communicating with the development team. Think before you post or don't post at all. The more you post the more i'm convinced your the alter-ego of PANN, created to post without any attachment. Is your character 14 days old now?
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:16:00 - [33] Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:25:42 edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact.
Uma Kruytls	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:18:00 - [34] You get what you give.
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:20:00 - [35] Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:26:04 edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact.
Veruna Caseti	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:20:00 - [36] Edited by: Veruna Caseti on 09/09/2003 15:22:26 Quote: Is your character 14 days old now? Xenophobe much? Oh no! Someone made a good point and I have no useful input of my own, so I will just point out that I have been in the game longer! Oh, you're my hero. This is especially funny since this thread has almost nothing to do with the EVE game itself, so in-game time is totally irrelevant. Every online game has GM support staff, most are understaffed, all suffer from the same whiney ****es moaning about how much they suck, etc., etc. I don't need to be an EVE veteran to know what I'm talking about here. Thanks for playing though. Please pull through. Veruna Caseti* Ishukone
K3STR3L	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:22:00 - [37] I think for one the GM's should address this problem. Its totally unfair to get killed before your client loads and also not to be able to even get to them without dieing. It might take alot of work but would make alot of their players happy.All you people flaming is silly. sylena was trying to make a point. and i for one agree that it should be addressed ASAP. I am also stuck floating in space in 0.0. I dont want to travel anywhere fearing when my client loads i will be in the cloning stationSorry but i worked damn hard for what i got and dont want to lose it to that.
Veruna Caseti	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:23:00 - [38] Sylena nono's post wasn't even directed at you. He quoted me and responded. Pay attention to your own threads before you respond with "don't flame me flamer troller lol." Veruna Caseti Ishukone
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:27:00 - [39] Quote: Sylena nono's post wasn't even directed at you. He quoted me and responded. Pay attention to your own threads before you respond with "don't flame me flamer troller lol." huh? edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact.
Veruna Caseti	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:30:00 - [40] sigh Go back and read nono's post. He wasn't flaming you, he was flaming me. I'm not sure why this wasn't clear by my first post. "nono's post was directed at me" kind of says it all, doesn't it? Veruna Caseti Ishukone
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:32:00 - [41] Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:34:43 Quote: sigh Go back and read nono's post. He wasn't flaming you, he was flaming me. I'm not sure why this wasn't clear by my first post. "nono's post was directed at me" kind of says it all, doesn't it? LOL it was clear. pls click thorugh all my posts on this matter, and u will understand. All my posts were editied because this is a forum for flamers, not "real people". forum : "general flamers." i clicked on the wrong one by mistake. sorry.
nono	Posted - 2003.09.09 15:41:00 - [42] Veruna thinks your reactions were because of my post. Some people just can't get over themselves I guess. Veruna I mearly tried to point out in very few words that you have been in this game at best 14 days and continuosly post as if the people that have been here since beta have no reason to complain. Maybe if you had experienced half the problems and knew that some of those problems have been around since beta you would be less condecending. At 14 days you have not experienced the frustration others that want this game to succeed have experienced. Your first week of arrival told everyone that posts their opinions to F*ck off and quit the game. I'd say you were frustrated although differently.
Dandria	Posted - 2003.09.09 16:18:00 - [43] Quote: Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:26:04 edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact. If you do not see my way I will take my guns and go home. LOL You must be a child... ---------------------------- Need a ship? We Have It!
Veruna Caseti	Posted - 2003.09.09 16:20:00 - [44] Quote: At 14 days you have not experienced the frustration others that want this game to succeed have experienced. You are correct, I have been in EVE a little over two weeks now. However I have been playing and supporting multiplayer games for well over a decade. So, though I may not be fully familiar with the ins-and-outs of the issues plaguing EVE itself, I am reasonably comfortable with what is involved in developing, maintaining and supporting a game of this size. The fact is, people in these forums treat the support staff like so much dirt and it's totally inexcusable. Perhaps they're slow, perhaps they're not thorough, perhaps not all of them are "fair," perhaps many problems have been around for a long time; but the fact is people do the best they can with the available resources. 95% of the posts on this board having to do with the GMs, Polaris and CCP are ****ing or complaining. These are real people with real lives doing real jobs. They're not your lackeys running around trying to make EVE just the way you like it and snap* snap real fast or you'll get **ed and cancel your account! Think about this; CCP needs to appoint players as Polaris members - how do they tell who is a good candidate? You * that Polaris isn't the best, but imagine what it takes to assemble a player-based GM staff. Do you expect CCP to do background checks? Hours of interviews on their own time while they should be working on EVE code (god forbid they take too long on the next patch, you'll get ed and cancel your account!)? Ahh well, I could go on but my points fall on mostly deaf ears anyway. Most of the people on these forums treat CCP and the support staff like *, and still expect gold from them in return. Veruna Caseti* Ishukone
Sylena	Posted - 2003.09.09 16:21:00 - [45] Quote: Quote: Edited by: Sylena on 09/09/2003 15:26:04 edit flamers dont know how to read, so no sense in keeping this post in tact. If you do not see my way I will take my guns and go home. LOL You must be a child... huh? i made intelliegt comments unlike urslef. and the people of this community are not capable of responding with anything but a flame. just like ur post above. u only prove my point. ty
Nupraptor	Posted - 2003.09.09 16:24:00 - [46] Edited by: Nupraptor on 09/09/2003 16:25:25 Quote: Quote: At 14 days you have not experienced the frustration others that want this game to succeed have experienced. You are correct, I have been in EVE a little over two weeks now. However I have been playing and supporting multiplayer games for well over a decade. So, though I may not be fully familiar with the ins-and-outs of the issues plaguing EVE itself, I am reasonably comfortable with what is involved in developing, maintaining and supporting a game of this size. The fact is, people in these forums treat the support staff like so much dirt and it's totally inexcusable. Perhaps they're slow, perhaps they're not thorough, perhaps not all of them are "fair," perhaps many problems have been around for a long time; but the fact is people do the best they can with the available resources. 95% of the posts on this board having to do with the GMs, Polaris and CCP are ****ing or complaining. These are real people with real lives doing real jobs. They're not your lackeys running around trying to make EVE just the way you like it and snap* snap real fast or you'll get **ed and cancel your account! Think about this; CCP needs to appoint players as Polaris members - how do they tell who is a good candidate? You * that Polaris isn't the best, but imagine what it takes to assemble a player-based GM staff. Do you expect CCP to do background checks? Hours of interviews on their own time while they should be working on EVE code (god forbid they take too long on the next patch, you'll get ed and cancel your account!)? Ahh well, I could go on but my points fall on mostly deaf ears anyway. Most of the people on these forums treat CCP and the support staff like **, and still expect gold from them in return. If u read the first post. this adresses ur post alot. the post was about gm's respionding to major issues on the forums, and that would save them 1000's of petetions. Also it was stated this person had excellent customer support, but was just asking that these MAJOR issues be addressed on the forums\news faster , and that in turn would cut down on the petetions gm's recieve.
Veruna Caseti	Posted - 2003.09.09 16:28:00 - [47] Well, my post was a more "in general" hijacking of the thread than it was a response to the original poster (who has since deleted all her posts anyway). Veruna Caseti Ishukone
Nupraptor	Posted - 2003.09.09 16:30:00 - [48] Edited by: Nupraptor on 09/09/2003 16:31:22 Quote: Well, my post was a more "in general" hijacking of the thread than it was a response to the original poster (who has since deleted all her posts anyway). I dont see why someone would keep an intelligent post they made up. just to continue bein flamed. its like why bother. i guess some people just get off on bein rude to others.
Veruna Caseti	Posted - 2003.09.09 16:32:00 - [49] Quote: i guess some people just get off on bein rude to others. File this under "goes without saying." You can't have thin skin in this industry. Online gamers are a viscious lot. Veruna Caseti Ishukone
Nupraptor	Posted - 2003.09.09 16:33:00 - [50] Quote: Quote: i guess some people just get off on bein rude to others. File this under "goes without saying." You can't have thin skin in this industry. Online gamers are a viscious lot. this is true.
Sybylle	Posted - 2003.09.09 16:58:00 - [51] Edited by: Sybylle on 09/09/2003 17:03:04 F*ck...I got time to read it when all is edited... Nothing to say... ho!! Yes...One thing... Why people need to be so agressive (and use improper language) Edit : Found something more... I agree with Veruna Caseti...This must be the first time I agree with you, making a non-agressive post (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period"
Dandria	Posted - 2003.09.09 17:02:00 - [52] Quote: F*ck...I got time to read it when all is edited... Nothing to say... ho!! Yes...One thing... Why people need to be so agressive (and use improper language) You are using profanity in your posts, That is improper language. You explain that to me. ---------------------------- Need a ship? We Have It!
Sybylle	Posted - 2003.09.09 17:05:00 - [53] lol Was just waiting to someone to point it out... I GOT U!!! (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period"

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