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Cunane Jeran
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Posted - 2011.11.09 00:12:00 -
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I've never really got while Gallente gang links were ewar, but I feel it was a case of being lumped with it after the other 3 had been sorted. I do like the Eos as it stands though, a drone t2 BC just seems like it would be a little on the unbalanced side in PvE.
Information warfare links though, not sure what you could do to fix that issue. |
Sweet Trader
The Hollow Men
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Posted - 2011.11.09 00:46:00 -
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All interesting...
My main point was that if the Eos was meant to be the drone option of the two command ships why is it half arsed? The Astarte is the hybrid boat so why was the Eos bandwidth nerfed turning it into a mixed hybrid/drone boat... the tech is there for Gallente to run the drones so why not have no hybrid bonus but allow 5 large drones to give a clear choice between the two command ships?
I'm not arguing for more dps... I'm suggesting there should be logical differentiation. |
Obsidiana
White-Noise
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Posted - 2011.11.09 05:07:00 -
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Fleet command should not have field command DPS. That is not the role of the class. I think the ship should get a unique bonus. Something in-line with a defensive nature. The ship definitely needs love. |
Vampire PeterPan
Thunder Mercenary Army
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Posted - 2011.11.09 11:46:00 -
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Based on Gallente ships' attribute, it is a kind for melee range1V1. So it is obveriously fallen at this age. |
Cambarus
Clearly Compensating
The Dark Triad
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Posted - 2011.11.09 14:56:00 -
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Make the info link that adds ewar strength also add web strength, suddenly the eos has a use 
EDIT: The ECCM link also needs a huge buff; it should be more or less on par with what fitting an ECCM to your ship gives (much in the same way the armor and shield resist links give you the rough equivalent of an EANM and an invuln respectively) |
xenodia
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
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Posted - 2011.11.09 20:55:00 -
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Sweet Trader wrote:Given that CCP are looking at the Gallente boats again I would like to propose that they reconsider the incongruous nerf that the Eos was subjected to some years ago.
Gallente currently have a frigate that can control five medium drones and a cruiser that can control five large drones... whereas the Eos, which has a bonus to drone bay size but not bandwidth can carry up to 225m3 of drones but can only use 50m3 at once... what is the point of that? It also has hybrid bonuses when the Astarte is the obvious hybrid platform... making it neither fish, flesh nor foul.
I don't understand why allowing it to use five large drones or sentries was ever considered OP? I'd also like to know whether anyone is actually using this boat any more for anything other than a safespotted info-warfare fleet booster? Obviously if it is used in this fashion the drone bandwidth becomes academic... but wouldn't we like to see this ship actually fighting?
Please sign if you agree... or present a coherent argument if you do not.
Edit: original post is unedited... inaccuracies addressed in subsequent posts.
I miss my pre-nerf eos. Of course I miss the pre-nerf Myrmidon too. As the "drone race" gallente really took it in the poop chute with the drone bandwidth thing a few years back, since most of their ships didnt get a bonus to bandwidth when it was put in game, meaning that their drone boats suddenly became fail boats. |
Sweet Trader
The Hollow Men
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Posted - 2011.11.10 21:23:00 -
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While I'm not arguing for more Eos dps... rather that its role as a drone option should not have been watered down... I would make this further observation about 'command' ships in general:
Does anyone else think that fleet bonuses (and I'm not just talking about Warfare Link bonuses) should only be applied to ships that are on the same grid as the fleet commander? After all... what tactical information is the command ship actually giving to the fleet if it cannot even see the enemy, let alone target them?
I think command ship pilots should be made to man-up and actually appear on the battlefield, necessitating that they rightly become a focus for fleet support... that's why they have the tank that they have (which currently often goes unused). Maybe then any debate over their dps would be different. Risk vs. reward. I don't mind flying at the enemy with a huge 'kick me' sign taped to my arse... but throw me a bone here. ;)
To intercept some of the obvious responses to this... those in the blob will hate the notion because any command ship on grid will be primaried and slaughtered irrespective of support. But I would hazard to suggest that the majority of fights are not large blobs... so why slant the game mechanics toward this?
Incidentally, thanks for the mostly reasonable and interesting comments so far. |
Tamiya Sarossa
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.10 21:42:00 -
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Buff ECCM link, buff e-war strength links (making them effect web strength might be a bit OP, but I wouldn't mind), and replace the EWAR range link by something useful, like a drone damage/speed/tracking link (any combination of those three). After that you can see how the Eos is doing.
Currently training Infowar Spec V based on the theory that CCP will get around to buffing these links eventually. |
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