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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
1946
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Posted - 2014.01.05 11:01:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:The final word is:
Some people think they understand it and are annoyed
Some people think they understand it and arent
And some people find the constant whining extremely tedious.
What if I do understand it and am annoyed but I also find it tedious and wish CCP would just answer already?
Consider it a ven diagram :)
I am happy with the situation as it is (I despise lotteries but thats not the issue) and I find it tedious, so we are both in the "Finds it tedious" circle.
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Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
14
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Posted - 2014.01.05 11:06:00 -
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Themanfromdalmontee wrote:Damsel in Distress wrote:So my account is about to expire and I wondered if there has been any wrap up concering the Somer Blink misconduct.
Tried Forum and Google search but couldn't find a trace of an apology or even an attempt to revert CCPs wrongdoings.
Considering it has been a more severe dev misconduct than T20, I must have missed it somehow.
Apologies if the respective search engines didn't come up with the correct topic, but I'm sure someone can point me to it :). How the **** has this been worse dev issue that T20. Blowing out of all proportion or what. Get your head out of your arse and grow up.
Oh and just to be clear, the T20 issue affected EVERYONE on the server.
The Somer issue affects Somer and people who care about such things. Somer made cash on a legitimate process at the time, which is no longer legitimate.
CCP can't take the money back or anything like that as they didn't give it to him so they can't do much more.
SomerBlink still provides a service to people who enjoy it and those that don't due to whatever religion mumbo jumbo or personal experience don't play it then you won't be upset.
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baltoxtdl
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.05 11:10:00 -
[63] - Quote
seeing all those Devs going to Riot, which most of em must know of Somerblink issues, some things should be clear. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
1946
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Posted - 2014.01.05 11:11:00 -
[64] - Quote
Themanfromdalmontee wrote: religion mumbo jumbo or personal experience don't play it then you won't be upset
What about people who dont gamble because they arent fricking stupid?
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Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
49
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Posted - 2014.01.05 11:11:00 -
[65] - Quote
Who the hell would kidnap this damsel? oO
it's okay to look... ;) |
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
14
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Posted - 2014.01.05 11:11:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Themanfromdalmontee wrote: religion mumbo jumbo or personal experience don't play it then you won't be upset
What about people who dont gamble because they arent fricking stupid?
They wouldn't care about other people doing it...otherwise they fall into the personal experience section :P |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
1946
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Posted - 2014.01.05 11:23:00 -
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Themanfromdalmontee wrote:
They wouldn't care about other people doing it...otherwise they fall into the personal experience section :P
I dont.
I care that there are too many fricking stupid people in the world and Id like to help be responsible for some of them going away permanently.
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Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
779
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Posted - 2014.01.05 11:25:00 -
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I still think it's a bunch of bull ****. Haven't gone on Somer's site since it turned into an RMT operation.
"CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2938
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Posted - 2014.01.05 11:28:00 -
[69] - Quote
CCP's final word appears to be a deafening silence.
Post on the Eve-o forums with a Goonswarm Federation character that drinking bleach is bad for you, and 20 forum warriors will hospitalise themselves trying to prove you wrong. |
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2014.01.05 13:32:00 -
[70] - Quote
Does someone mind telling me what this "outrage" is about please. Been away and missed this whole thing.
A wild guess, is it along the lines of the t2 bpo's?
Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it... |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
1954
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Posted - 2014.01.05 13:36:00 -
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Prie Mary wrote:
A wild guess, is it along the lines of the t2 bpo's?
You'd think, and many people do think that but it really isnt.
Its about market seeding, GTCs, gambling, lotteries and entitlement, mostly.
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Logical 101
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
182
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Posted - 2014.01.05 17:35:00 -
[72] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:gambling, lotteries and entitlement
So, I assume a lot of people were personally negatively affected by this, right?
Because we were all forced to participate, and those who aren't shown favoritism in EVE are always at an inherent disadvantage when we undock to do things or play the market, correct?
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
1971
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Posted - 2014.01.05 17:39:00 -
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Logical 101 wrote:
So, I assume a lot of people were personally negatively affected by this, right?
Because we were all forced to participate, and those who aren't shown favoritism in EVE are always at an inherent disadvantage when we undock to do things or play the market, correct?
No, no one was negatively affected, thats the whole point.
And please tell me more about the awesome advantages inherent in owning a IWS.
Unless you are agreeing with my point that its all empty complaining, in which case excuse my tone lol
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Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
202
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Posted - 2014.01.05 17:40:00 -
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The whole thing makes a lot more sense when you realize the likelyhood of SOMER being run by a CCP alt. |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs
Monkeys with Guns.
95
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Posted - 2014.01.05 18:38:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:The whole thing makes a lot more sense when you realize the likelyhood of SOMER being run by a CCP alt.
This would only make sense if some CCP guy is selling tinfoil for a living |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6097
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Posted - 2014.01.05 18:52:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:CCP's final word appears to be a deafening silence.
Good thing tons of players seem fine with it.
or are just trolling.
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
1976
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Posted - 2014.01.05 18:53:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:CCP's final word appears to be a deafening silence. Good thing tons of players seem fine with it. or are just trolling.
Honestly, I have never seen what the fuss was about
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Kirren D'marr
State Protectorate
Caldari State
276
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Posted - 2014.01.05 19:35:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Did they get advantage in the past by taking best advantage of CCP's generic policies. Sure, no argument there, did they abuse CCP, no argument there either. But they did it within the rules (Unless someone can prove Dev collusion rather than just tin foil hat because someone else got something shiny). But so could anyone else have gotten themselves into the same position, Somer simply used the tools well.
Using in game accounts for business purposes has always been aginst the rules. It's pretty hard to argue that an operation reported to have brought in over $135K is not a business (this goes way beyond covering monthly server costs). It is also interesting that CCP went silent on the matter about the time the news of these earnings broke.
So yes, I will argue that Somer clearly broke the rules. I have no evidence of dev collusion, but whether there was or not is hardly requisite to identifying Somer's operation as an EULA violation. A violation which I should point out typically earns an immediate ban for all associated accounts. So while there may be no evidence of direct collusion, there is plenty of evidence to imply favorable treatment over others.
Why a switch on/off?
Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying.
In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless.
Simple as that.-á-á-á-á-á - Kina Ayami |
Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
CODE.
592
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:06:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:What about people who dont gamble because they arent fricking stupid?
What about people that know math and use it as a source of ISK income? |
Jasmine Assasin
State War Academy
Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:07:00 -
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I find all the "Somer madness" to be in the same vein as "Grrr Goons" to be honest. Sorry you can't come up with something better and have an entitlement mentality. I hope CCP doesn't add any more flame to the fire personally. In my opinion anybody that leaves over this fabricated bullcrap would have left for a whole host of other reasons and we are better off without them anyway. |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1203
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:19:00 -
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Nothing...
The Tears Must Flow |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8122
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Posted - 2014.01.05 21:48:00 -
[82] - Quote
Jasmine Assasin wrote:I find all the "Somer madness" to be in the same vein as "Grrr Goons" to be honest. Sorry you can't come up with something better and have an entitlement mentality.
And how would you say we're acting entitled?
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Kamii Yo
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2014.01.05 21:53:00 -
[83] - Quote
+1 for wanting closure |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
124
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Posted - 2014.01.05 21:56:00 -
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Vigilant wrote:CCP lost a lot of their balls, sad to say. They should admit they f'ed up and give everyone a damm Ish Scrop :P
That, or just the opposite. Tell the community that they'll run their company the way they want and the community should HTFU. Actually, silence on the issue is a pretty good raise of the middle finger to everyone. |
Damsel in Distress
Brave Newbies Inc.
85
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Posted - 2014.01.06 03:23:00 -
[85] - Quote
Wow - so many people posting about being annoyed with a subject no one forced them to read and so many people feeling entitled to post about other peoples self-entitlement...
Despite the sharply declining quality of trolls on these forums, the sheer display of stupidity displayed in Eve GD is on a steep rise.
Entertaining, but hardly worth a response.
Anyhow - looks like CCPs plan to deal with the issue is somewhat like this... |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6101
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Posted - 2014.01.06 04:25:00 -
[86] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:Actually, silence on the issue is a pretty good raise of the middle finger to everyone.
*clap* *clap*
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
959
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Posted - 2014.01.06 06:56:00 -
[87] - Quote
Personal opinions aside, what more are people looking for there to be said regarding this? |
Kirren D'marr
State Protectorate
Caldari State
277
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:54:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Personal opinions aside, what more are people looking for there to be said regarding this?
I can think of a few ideas for starters:
"We screwed up; we never should have given away such rare and valuable prizes in a manner that let a third party dictate who could particpate, let alone allow a third party to choose the winners."
"We screwed up; we should have realized that such a giveaway could be controversial, and we should have run it by the CSM before it was announced, instead of letting it become a PR nightmare. From now on, we will run such third party giveaways by the CSM prior to taking action, so that the CSM can act as the safeguard against the appearance of dev favoritism like they were originally intended to be."
"We screwed up; we shouldn't have given "recognition" behind closed doors, with no clearly defined criteria as to what would qualify a group or individual for such recognition. Doing so in such a secretive manner gives a strong appearance of impropriety at the very least. Here is our new list of requirements for such recognition, which from now on will always be given publicly."
"We screwed up; we never should have favored one site over other similar sites by providing them with prizes which would drive customers to their site and away from their competitors; this is interferring in the market, and as impartial referees it was wrong for us to do. Going forward, all sites who wish to participate in such events may do so, and here is the new application process..."
"We screwed up; we should have at least given a cursory investigation into an organization's history and financials before partnering with them and vouching for their record of reliability. Now that we have learned that SOMER Blink is in fact a real-life for profit business, all player accounts associated with the SOMER Blink corporation and organization will be banned in accordance with the EULA rules concerning the use of EVE game accounts for business purposes."
"Oh, here's that dev blog we promised months ago."
"Oh, and here's the survey regarding what gifts players find acceptable that we promised months ago as well."
"Where we really screwed up is just going silent on the whole matter and halting all communication with our paying customers. Our customers are important to us, and in the interest of transparency, you deserve a full explanation. Especially given our past track record, such transparency is the only way for us to maintain and restore trust, confidence and respect. With that in mind, here is what happened, here is what will happen, and this is how we will prevent such problems in the future..."
Why a switch on/off?
Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying.
In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless.
Simple as that.-á-á-á-á-á - Kina Ayami |
Dave Stark
4134
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:05:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Personal opinions aside, what more are people looking for there to be said regarding this?
oh i don't know, maybe addressing every single issue that was raised in the thread? |
Logical 101
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
227
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:33:00 -
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From the Massively article published on October 10, 2013...
Quote:After a few days of fan caterwauling, CCP has issued a lengthy and detailed response built to clarify what happened, why it happened, and what it means. First, CCP explained that the Ishukone Watch Scorpion is a promotional item with no value beyond that which is created by its rarity. The studio also noted that only 132 ships exist, all of which were handed out by CCP to community contributors. CCP explained that giving away the ships to fansites and contributors was meant to be a continued initiative but is now on hold.
CCP also clarified a few things about the SOMER.Blink giveaway specifically, noting that the secrecy mandate was issued by a SOMER staffer and not by CCP itself and that the size of the SOMER giveaway was bigger than that of previous giveaways because of the larger size of the SOMER.Blink staff. The studio concluded by explaining that it is not happy with the way things turned out and that it is pausing all plans for in-game rewards for third-party contributors while it works out how to thank community members without upsetting the economy (or player perception of that economy).
In line with this, CCP basically maintains that they happily support third party initiatives until people cry about it, at which point they abate their support and wait for these sorts of things to simply blow over.
Seems par for the course on everything to be perfectly honest. |
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