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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.10 02:09:00 -
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Quote: while forcing people to (meanwhile) settle for low cost replacements like cruisers or even frigates,
Closer than you think. How do you make the old timers and the new players a little closer, by removing mega in large quantity. If players can not get the mega to build a BS then you force the players to use a cruiser. This would seem to be a perfect answer to balancing the game if it were not for a few things.
1. People will stop using BS not because they can not afford one but because they can not build a replacement. But this will only be short term, the smarter people will store their BS until all their enemies BS have been destroyed then jump out and overpower them.
2. At first glance this would seem to level the playing field with those that use frigs/cruisers exclusively and thus would allow for better PVP. But this just shows CCPs short sightedness, what this will actually do is hurt PVP of any type. Because players will have to really weigh the cost of replacing modules and ships. PPL forget that modules also use mega, while this may seem be good for the market because the price will raise it also will only happen at first. Once the minerals are no longer available people will stop using them.
For the people like Jash that require their coffee cups to have "caution, contents are hot" imprinted on them I will try to simplify. When something becomes too rare it looses it value of purpose. For instance, say jash was given a 2 dollar shirt. Well he can wipe his nose it as usual. But now say his mom gives him a $200,000 shirt; see now the shirt has lost its purpose for him because the replacement cost is too high.
Soon BS will be come to expensive to replace not in ISK but in materials.
The end result, less PVP as players will be less likely to risk their equipment.
Aw, gee shucks. Bships cost too much to produce? Do you manufacture anything? I'm having a tougher time getting the trit/pyr for Tempests than Megacyte. And I don't mine the junk.
Why you keep demonstrating you know absolutely nothing about the market, I haven't a clue. But you do it so well.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Darketh Nightspawn
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Posted - 2003.09.10 02:10:00 -
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Quote: its a bug it will be fixed. end of discussion
It will be fixed.... probably because the boyscouts have whined about something not being easy to get.....
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.09.10 02:18:00 -
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Quote: It will be fixed.... probably because the boyscouts have whined about something not being easy to get.....
No because it's a bug and that's what you do with bugs, genius.
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.09.10 02:20:00 -
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Athren Soulsteal CCP has already confirmed that rare and semi-rare respawn rates are bugged so your whole argument is bunk. Sorry. Good read though (bit long).
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.10 02:32:00 -
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Quote: Athren Soulsteal CCP has already confirmed that rare and semi-rare respawn rates are bugged so your whole argument is bunk. Sorry. Good read though (bit long).
Stopitstopitstopitstopit! What happened to the person that made no sense? This is a trick isn't it, making sense and taking reasonable positions on discussions?
Don't like it. Don't like it at all. Please go back to the person who made me ponder if I hooked their hair puffs to the back end of my Rifter whether her head would stay on for 8 seconds 
Seriously though, there's still a fair amount of padding in most items on the market except for the really low ticket ones. And depending on the manufacturer, the current prices on items are absorbing the cost of Megacyte without much issue. It all depends on the greed of the manufacturer where the prices go. Getting the Tritanium and the Pyerite is a bigger headache than getting the Megacyte, unless you're a larger corp into strip mining.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

MrPops
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Posted - 2003.09.10 03:04:00 -
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What shortage of Megacite? There are regions full of bistot, you just need to move and set camp in remote locations. It's not uncommon to mine 11+ jumps away from a station to mine the stuff.
"The human species suffers from a dimensional limitation. They are not able to understand that matter and mind are just one aspect of something more fundamental. We must strive to expand our perspective so we can see what our true reality is." Deep toughts by Mr.Pops, while consuming large quantities of Blue Pill and staring at the EVE gate in Genesis.
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.10 03:49:00 -
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Guess it appears to be a regional problem. Some areas say they have tons others are *****ing. One large manufacture has troubles and the other acts like the common ore is the problem.
So in conclusion: no one really has any f*cking clue.
This thread may die now. Thank you for your time.

The Wretch Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.09.10 03:54:00 -
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Quote: Please go back to the person who made me ponder if I hooked their hair puffs to the back end of my Rifter whether her head would stay on for 8 seconds
I knew you had a thing for the hair puffs.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.10 04:09:00 -
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Quote: Guess it appears to be a regional problem. Some areas say they have tons others are *****ing. One large manufacture has troubles and the other acts like the common ore is the problem.
So in conclusion: no one really has any f*cking clue.
This thread may die now. Thank you for your time.

A Tempest takes over 8 million trit and 2 million pyr. Even with pricing Veldspar at 4 per unit (which breaks down to being paid 1.4 per unit trit) it'll take days to gather the ore to refine for a Tempest. However, if I want the over 2k Megacyte needed per Tempest, I can easily fly to several stations and pick up all Megacyte I want immediately. I just have to pay their price.
How has paying their price affected the price of Tempests from me? It hasn't. I choose to absorb some of the added cost and trim some of the cost in other areas (like keeping an open eye on the market for deals on the lesser minerals and picking them up). Also through the use of buy orders and contacts, I've never paid top price for Megacyte as because just as people are willing to undercut each other on the actual items, there are those willing to undercut others on the price of the materials.
And if worse comes to absolute worse, I can arrange a mining party to go for bistot and aquire a supply for ourselves and pretty much eliminate the cost of the megacyte from the from the cost to manufacture (bounties + loot during defense). So instead of finding dull, old ways to complain about a situation I work with what I got.
A little legwork goes a long way, which is why you'll catch me in an industrial hauling. Or a Rifter exploring.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Cao Cao
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Posted - 2003.09.10 04:54:00 -
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Quote: Well recently, thanks mostly to the Sinister Russian Cow Corporation , battleship sales and production are in high order. The megacyte shortage appears to actually be causing production delays .
This is bad for everyone from miners and manufactures to pvp fanatics. It slows the game down imo.
Rarely do I support miners and their cause. But I have to say on their behalf, get the mobile refineries in game fast .
Wretch,
Once again you show your complete lack of intelligence with a completely useless response to your own whiney complaint. If you want megacyte at lower than the prices that are being asked, GO MINE THE ******* **** YOURSELF.
Just because something becomes rare giving people incentive to make money by going and mining the **** doesn't mean that is a bad thing. It just means people who have started specializing in mining a bit of the rare stuff are gonna make a buck off your lazy fat ass.
I'm sick and ******* tired of all this "gimme gimme gimme" bull**** I keep hearing in all these damn posts. People like you, Wretch, will never be satisfied until everything in the game is dropped at your goddamn doorstep with no effort expended. People like you are the ones who cried and screamed and begged for crap like the superhighway system that has all but ruined the unique economy of this game.
If you want ******* megacyte GO GODDAMN MINE IT. I spent ALL DAMN NIGHT mining it, and NO there are no baby roids where I am mining, ******* big ass plentiful things and I'm making an assload of profit by selling it.
SO SHUT YOUR LAZY WHINEY CAREBEAR ASS UP.
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