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Lipbite
Express Hauler
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Posted - 2014.01.06 07:10:00 -
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Subscription-based MMO game is all about time sinks. And EVE is a world champion by amount of time sinks - there are so many of them that people pay for PLEXes to bypass some and skip parts of the gameplay (PvE grind). Not only CCP isn't interesting in lowering amount of grind but in fact they re increasing it (new skills, artificially increased price of battlecruisers and T1 battleships).
p.s. When I've started to play the game I've purchased fully rigged Dominix for 42mill. Now - just couple years later - it cost 5 times more while missions output exactly the same amount of ISK. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1385
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Posted - 2014.01.06 07:26:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote:Hello.
Do you think EVE would more fun if CCP made all income passive and removed the need for boring, repetitive tasks (which can be completed by a machine) like ratting and mining?
Now, who gets the most passive income could be determined by a number of factors, such as skill in PvP, skill with spreadsheets (in the case of industry) and general intelligence/creativeness.
Imo, it's possible that such a universe would be much more fun to play in.
People would PvP more often, and progression would be based more on skill, and less on the amount of time spent grinding. Better yet use the FPS model where you just spawn in a small gang with a free ship and if it gets blown up you respawn in a new free ship at the spawn point. Sucks if the bad guys camp your spawn point though. To make it even more fun you could have red and blue flags you need to capture.
At least in battlegrounds the flag doesn't stop at 25% requiring you to come back 24 hours later to fight a unlimited player premade. One thing for sure, WoW PvP is better then EvE PvP, mechanics wise. |
Digital Messiah
Digital Alchemist
The Fire Nation Syndicate
361
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Posted - 2014.01.06 07:44:00 -
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You must not be familiar with how hazing works psychologically. You see people appreciate things more when they suffer for it. Regardless of whether or not the suffering was the logical choice or it was inflicted through peer pressure or lack of foreknowledge. When someone looks back they think to themselves. Why would I do this to myself if it didn't have value to me?
See Hazing, fraternities, abusive relationships, military training, and bible study, for more information on the subject.
Something clever |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2014.01.06 07:49:00 -
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Digital Messiah wrote:You must not be familiar with how hazing works psychologically. You see people appreciate things more when they suffer for it. Regardless of whether or not the suffering was the logical choice or it was inflicted through peer pressure or lack of foreknowledge. When someone looks back they think to themselves. Why would I do this to myself if it didn't have value to me?
See Hazing, fraternities, abusive relationships, military training, and bible study, for more information on the subject.
Boat fleets
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Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Ramona McCandless
Epic Boo Bees
1983
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Posted - 2014.01.06 08:22:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:
if CCP removed the need for boring, repetitive tasks
There is no need. You choose whether you want to do that
*** Vote MTU For CSM ***
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --áPontianak Sythaeryn
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Dextrome Thorphan
RvB - RED Federation
112
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Posted - 2014.01.06 09:16:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:But my income IS passive. Gotta love industry and trade.
Oh really? You don't have to start research/manufacturing jobs, haul or create courrier contracts and then manually sell each item on the market? Because if you do, that's far from passive... |
Ramona McCandless
Epic Boo Bees
1984
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Posted - 2014.01.06 09:22:00 -
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Digital Messiah wrote:You must not be familiar with how hazing works psychologically. You see people appreciate things more when they suffer for it. Regardless of whether or not the suffering was the logical choice or it was inflicted through peer pressure or lack of foreknowledge. When someone looks back they think to themselves. Why would I do this to myself if it didn't have value to me?
See Hazing, fraternities, abusive relationships, military training, and bible study, for more information on the subject.
Yes, social and pyschological conditioning DOES make you believe that your suffering is for the best
See: Stalinist Russia, Maoist China, Medieval Christianity, John Steinbeck
*** Vote MTU For CSM ***
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --áPontianak Sythaeryn
Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
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Posted - 2014.01.06 09:30:00 -
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Q: Would EVE be more fun without mindless grinding?
A: Buy GTCs/PLEXes and pay for whatever activity floats your boat in EVE
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embrel
BamBam Inc.
96
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Posted - 2014.01.06 09:48:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote:
Imo, it's possible that such a universe would be much more fun to play in.
People would PvP more often, and progression would be based more on skill, and less on the amount of time spent grinding.
Well there are places where that exists, they are called China, Cuba, Laos, N.Kora and Vietnam. I just don't consider them entirely fun.
and even though that exists there (allegedly), they do not PvP more than people in the US. |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
Solar Assault Fleet
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Posted - 2014.01.06 13:31:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:
Do you think EVE would more fun if CCP removed the need for boring, repetitive tasks (which can be completed by a machine) like ratting and mining, and made progression in the game based on more difficult, skill based ones (like PvP)?
If you don't like boring, repetitive tasks, then why are you doing them?
Progression in the game is based on what you want it to be and have good you are at finding something that you find fun to do.
And as with every other game, if you can't find anything fun to do in it then you are most likely playing the wrong game.
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