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Foxstar Damaskeenus
Phoenix Co.
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:01:00 -
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Please move this message, I couldn't figure out where to post it.
Since the Rubicon expansion I have lost several ships being locked and pointed on gate due to inability to cloak. One of those a prowler being flown by a hauling character. I did not seem to have this problem before the Rubicon expansion. I'm just curious if anyone else has been having this problem. Also low signature radius ships such as frigates being locked by an interdictor before warping off from a gate, I have noticed this several times.
It should be noted that my internet connection is garbage for the next few weeks before I move. I have not changed anything I have been doing, it seems that if you hit align or warp then immediately hit cloak the commands should be arriving at the server at the correct interval. I never had this problem before Rubicon. |
Jack Morrison
Sinister Spinster
Advent of Fate
110
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:05:00 -
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Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:Please move this message, I couldn't figure out where to post it.
Since the Rubicon expansion I have lost several ships being locked and pointed on gate due to inability to cloak. One of those a prowler being flown by a hauling character. I did not seem to have this problem before the Rubicon expansion. I'm just curious if anyone else has been having this problem. Also low signature radius ships such as frigates being locked by an interdictor before warping off from a gate, I have noticed this several times.
It should be noted that my internet connection is garbage for the next few weeks before I move. I have not changed anything I have been doing, it seems that if you hit align or warp then immediately hit cloak the commands should be arriving at the server at the correct interval. I never had this problem before Rubicon.
Eve works in 1 second ticks, if you have a ****** internet connection (and it appears you indeed have), you activate the buttons quickly, but they get to the server too late (activate 1 second later) and it is all a scanres maxed ship needs to lock you. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
876
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:06:00 -
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The other thing that may be occurring is you are actually dropping gate cloak too fast and encountering the recloaking delay timer. |
Ramona McCandless
Epic Boo Bees
2028
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:08:00 -
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Actually, this happened to me reasonably often (may be 1 in 10 times or so) before Incursion.
Since the last two expansions, it hasnt happened at all.
Try lowering any settings that are having a drain on your video RAM, I find this helps the video-lag problem.
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Foxstar Damaskeenus
Phoenix Co.
Against ALL Authorities
41
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:10:00 -
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Jack Morrison wrote:Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:Please move this message, I couldn't figure out where to post it.
Since the Rubicon expansion I have lost several ships being locked and pointed on gate due to inability to cloak. One of those a prowler being flown by a hauling character. I did not seem to have this problem before the Rubicon expansion. I'm just curious if anyone else has been having this problem. Also low signature radius ships such as frigates being locked by an interdictor before warping off from a gate, I have noticed this several times.
It should be noted that my internet connection is garbage for the next few weeks before I move. I have not changed anything I have been doing, it seems that if you hit align or warp then immediately hit cloak the commands should be arriving at the server at the correct interval. I never had this problem before Rubicon. Eve works in 1 second ticks, if you have a ****** internet connection (and it appears you indeed have), you activate the buttons quickly, but they get to the server too late (activate 1 second later) and it is all a scanres maxed ship needs to lock you.
That makes sense. It is as I feared. When I moved in to this place I had told the landlord that I needed good internet to Skype for my aviation degree I am working on. Apparently his idea of good internet is using the neighbors "guest" connection. Between this and many other mis-communications I think this guy is candidate for an upper decker in every bathroom in the house when I move out in a few weeks.
Also Wyoming seems to have way better internet than most places around the country, I guess sheep don't use much bandwith. I'm coming baaaaack.
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Jack Morrison
Sinister Spinster
Advent of Fate
111
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:16:00 -
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Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:Jack Morrison wrote:Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:Please move this message, I couldn't figure out where to post it.
Since the Rubicon expansion I have lost several ships being locked and pointed on gate due to inability to cloak. One of those a prowler being flown by a hauling character. I did not seem to have this problem before the Rubicon expansion. I'm just curious if anyone else has been having this problem. Also low signature radius ships such as frigates being locked by an interdictor before warping off from a gate, I have noticed this several times.
It should be noted that my internet connection is garbage for the next few weeks before I move. I have not changed anything I have been doing, it seems that if you hit align or warp then immediately hit cloak the commands should be arriving at the server at the correct interval. I never had this problem before Rubicon. Eve works in 1 second ticks, if you have a ****** internet connection (and it appears you indeed have), you activate the buttons quickly, but they get to the server too late (activate 1 second later) and it is all a scanres maxed ship needs to lock you. That makes sense. It is as I feared. When I moved in to this place I had told the landlord that I needed good internet to Skype for my aviation degree I am working on. Apparently his idea of good internet is using the neighbors "guest" connection. Between this and many other mis-communications I think this guy is candidate for an upper decker in every bathroom in the house when I move out in a few weeks. Also Wyoming seems to have way better internet than most places around the country, I guess sheep don't use much bandwith. I'm coming baaaaack.
Eve doesn't need high-speed internet, neither doest it suck a lot of data (apart from updates and expansions), but a stable connection is a prereq for a good gaming experience. |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:19:00 -
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Click faster 
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hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate
Caldari State
99
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:27:00 -
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Check your FPS when the jump is complete. I once warped into a fleet. As they were jumping in and my frame rate nearly hit zero, I was in my pod before they loaded .
I adjusted my setting s and it never happened again
Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
1545
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Posted - 2014.01.07 14:07:00 -
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This might not be a bug, this might be user error...
Keep in mind that you cannot cloak if you're locked or within 2.5 KM of anything! It is extremely easy for a Insta lock interceptor to lock anything. (If interceptor is fitted properly and has a good pilot, it takes less then a second to lock a POD.)
Even if you do get to cloak and press warp, its also easy (easier now with camera tracking) to just burn towards the general area where the target cloaked to and uncloak them.
Be aware of your surroundings when you jump into low or null sec.
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Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
398
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Posted - 2014.01.07 14:15:00 -
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i had it too , was or clicking to soon , and even in covert ops somtimes , a delay of 13sec  couple of times excatly 13sec.
after last patch i didnt have it anymore
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Norm Tempesta
The Konvergent League
Sev3rance
48
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Posted - 2014.01.07 14:17:00 -
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Another thing to consider is that people are flying more super sebo'ed ships trying to catch the rash of interceptors that are around, and we do find that we catch more cloaky ships since we started doing that. |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
398
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Posted - 2014.01.07 14:18:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Click faster
clicking faster was the problem , need to click a second later and it worked as before
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Eram Fidard
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
649
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Posted - 2014.01.07 14:37:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Click faster
If only eve actually worked that way. But nope, one has to internalize a timer in order to navigate successfully. That timer includes the hop from your connection to CCP's servers, so is different for everyone, and changes depending on your internet connection.
Not really complaining, I internalized the cloak timing a long time ago, so now it mainly affects me by laughing at people who 'should never have been caught'. Just saying though, kinda freakin' silly that I have to press align, pause a quarter second, then shift-f1->f1->f2 (but don't press them too fast or the cloak command won't register) to get past a camp. Sure, it's do-able, but should I pause ever so slightly less (or more) than that quarter second, or should there be the slightest internet hiccup in that moment, I am ******.
Hardly news though, it's been this way since I started playing, at least.
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Max Goldwing
Homeworld Republic
The East India Co.
10
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Posted - 2014.01.07 15:04:00 -
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For the last few expansions there has been a bug where the cloak timer is sometimes reset wrongly, so after jumping a gate waiting a few seconds, dropping gatecloak and then engaging your own cloak you get the "have to wait 15seconds blabla" which is the standard time for a bomber (I reported it 2 times in the bugtracker).
That combined with the subsecond timing of the press, while the green confirmation that it took can be 1s+, and the "you cant cloak yet" message hangs for serveral seconds, makes a few times where you can luck out. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2589
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Posted - 2014.01.07 15:20:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Click faster
Eve is not supposed to be a twitch game.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
ZynnLee Akkori
Perkone
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2014.01.07 15:56:00 -
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Didn't I read somewhere recently that you can hit cloak first and then warp or mwd? Or is that some other tactic? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4095
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Posted - 2014.01.07 17:07:00 -
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Wormholes. I can cross the galaxy without seeing a gate.
I know everybody's in a hurry. |
Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
987
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Posted - 2014.01.07 17:16:00 -
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ZynnLee Akkori wrote:Didn't I read somewhere recently that you can hit cloak first and then warp or mwd? Or is that some other tactic?
something like that, i'm not going to say how because i've seen enough vindicators warp off using it |
Shantetha
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2014.01.07 17:28:00 -
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There is still input lag, i have noticed this often. I am having to hit Fkeys multiple times for them to recognized in-game. It was only occasionally prior to the Odyssey since then it's constant, if i am doing something risky i click because it activates on the first click vs the possible/probable 2-3 button mashings on any keyboard i own. ( both USB and P2 keyboards. ) |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
8907
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Posted - 2014.01.07 17:44:00 -
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This thread is absolute bull****.
According to 5000 threads in F&I, ships with cloaks are completely invulnerable.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
418
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Posted - 2014.01.07 17:44:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Click faster clicking faster was the problem , need to click a second later and it worked as before
Asking a player to manually time his align/warp button press and subsequent cloak button press to match 'server ticks' is asinine, and bad programming IMHO. From a client UI perspective I should not have to guess the magic half/second delay between clicking align and then the cloak button, to get a successful cloak (instead of the popular 'you cant because you are still cloaked (WTF?)' message....
If I requested a cloak, the ship should cloak at the nearest possible opportunity -- not give me a 'you are still cloaked..' message because the server and UI are out of sync due to lag. Have the server either cache the first cloak request and execute next in a queue, or the client automatically re-send cloak attempts if the 'you cant cloak' message appears (while the cloak button sits in a 'yellow' color or something indicating, 'cloak request pending'....WHATEVER....
I shouldnt have to solve this problem for CCP, but clearly asking a player to time his warp and cloak commands is rediculous UI interaction for flying a space age ship. Christ, first thing I would do as captain of said ship is call down to Scotty and say '**** Scotty, can you have the damn cloak command auto-re-issue itself until cloaking happens? Why the flying **** am I having to time this?'.
If Scotty could do it, surely CCP can...
Would you like to know more? |
Ilaister
Task Force Proteus
Protean Concept
73
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:11:00 -
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Shantetha wrote:.... if i am doing something risky i click because it activates on the first click vs the possible/probable 2-3 button mashings on any keyboard i own. ( both USB and P2 keyboards. )
Had a similar issue last night. Clicks worked 1/8 of the time then not at all. Keypresses got me nada. Modules did not auto-repeat. Just the once so far though. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
1020
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:18:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Click faster
It's always good when Devs make jokes about badly programmed mechanics....
CCP, trading shiny pictures for playability since 2003..
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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
349
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:27:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:This thread is absolute bull****.
According to 5000 threads in F&I, ships with cloaks are completely invulnerable.
One ship with a covops cloak has the power to shut down entire constellations!
With great power comes great responsibility. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
964
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:07:00 -
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And to think... there is another thread floating here on the forums about people cloaking too quickly and not being caught. Find it funny. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
983
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:59:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Click faster
That does not always help, in my particular case (on the older laptop) client and overview froze on loading the system to the point i have heard people targeting me and shooting, without seeing it. Then my ship blew up, next was the capsule. What was strange, explosions went completely smooth.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
122
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Posted - 2014.01.07 22:08:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:And to think... there is another thread floating here on the forums about people cloaking too quickly and not being caught. Find it funny.
just noob-whiners ignore them
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
That does not always help, in my particular case (on the older laptop) client and overview froze on loading the system to the point i have heard people targeting me and shooting, without seeing it. Then my ship blew up, next was the capsule. What was strange, explosions went completely smooth.
That is a video issue not server lag, your ship is there and behaving normally you just can't see it or command it. The only fix I have found is to alt-tab to desktop and quickly open EVE again, everything suddenly becomes visible and you can issue commands as usual again. |
45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
37
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Posted - 2014.01.07 22:17:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Click faster
Well said CCP Falcon  
I am not a CCP employee-ájust having a input in the EvE forum
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
833
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Posted - 2014.01.08 00:30:00 -
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It could just be a change in what's sitting at the gate waiting for you. People think that you can't lock a covert ops ship as it switches cloak, but I know that's not true. It may be uncommon to get locked in one, but it's very possible.
Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance)
And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
4781
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Posted - 2014.01.08 06:17:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Click faster
Aura wrote:The cloaking you are doing is preventing your systems from operating at this time.
And then of course you can try mashing the F1 key. But all that happens there is you miss the point where your cloak actually activated, mistakenly deactivate the cloak and receive:
Aura wrote:Your cloak is still recovering from the previous period of operation and will be for the next 2 seconds.
which is usually followed by
Aura wrote:Ha ha! You got podded!
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