I just want to read other people's opinion on this.

Why don't these things get protected by concord rules?

Why are you free to get a +1 kill on pilot owned object?

i like how the regular " goons pack of sh-it" jump on every post to claim hi sec are too safe.

and before you ask, i never undock so nobody kill my mtu

i like how the regular " goons pack of sh-it" jump on every post to claim hi sec are too safe.

and before you ask, i never undock so nobody kill my mtu

i like how the regular " goons pack of sh-it" jump on every post to claim hi sec are too safe.

i love how everyone that disagrees with a bad idea regarding high sec is a goon.

Funny, all I said was that you get to attack anyone that attacks your MTU. A total lack of CONCORD protection would mean that they'd blow you up for doing so.

Also, nice censor evasion there. That's totally smart. It's not as if people don't already know what word you mean via context.

goon or cfc or whatever you want be called (and you can try to hide your true natue by corp jumping, you still a little sma)

yeah yeah, i'm mad or i'm just bored to read always the same argument coming for "your" point of view (trying to stay polite :)

If you don't want them to get the KM, stop them from killing it.

Or kill it yourself? Do you go suspect if you shoot your own MTU? I'll have to try this.

If you don't want them to get the KM, stop them from killing it.

^^
This.
Man-up and fight for your stuffs. Or watch it become other peoples' stuffs (including KMs).

I just want to read other people's opinion on this.

::effort::

Please remember, this is Highsec we are talking about.

Hello everyone,

When doing some mindless carebearing in l4s some random guy got in and flagged him self in hope of me taking the bait, bothered by my ignorance he destroyed the MTU i had on the field. Didn't bother me either since it had only junk inside. Only later i noticed the loss in my kill mails.

Personally i think it's an unfairly easy +1 kill.

Why don't these things get protected by concord rules?

Why are you free to get a +1 kill on pilot owned object?

or just don't deploy it?

Because they're meant to be easy to attack and to work as conflict creators.

Because it makes no real difference.

If this occurred a lot, surely people would start putting MTUs out as bait.

Seems simple enough to do, deploy MTU in your mates mission and then cloak a PvP gank ship and wait for someone to shoot it.

If this occurred a lot, surely people would start putting MTUs out as bait.

Seems simple enough to do, deploy MTU in your mates mission and then cloak a PvP gank ship and wait for someone to shoot it.

The only thing I see wrong here, OP, is that you seem to give a **** about kill mails.

Mr Epeen

I have seen kills on the players that do this kind of thing (shooting MTUs). Sentry drones can do miracles.

I care about killmails. I care about the records, the memories, the statistics, the sharing of the experience, and yes sometimes even the bragging rights (on kills, not efficiency because that's meaningless). I like something I can point to and say "I was there."

So call me a killboard-*****. don't care what you say.

so CCP remove can flipping

Only later i noticed the loss in my kill mails.

MTUs seem to be creating a lot of whining, ganking, tears and rage so I'd say that they are working as intended.

When was this

Retribution. Anyone can take from a suspect's can without going suspect themselves.

So... rather than remove it, they just made it legal.

So... rather than remove it, they just made it legal.

Hello everyone,

When doing some mindless carebearing in l4s some random guy got in and flagged him self in hope of me taking the bait, bothered by my ignorance he destroyed the MTU i had on the field. Didn't bother me either since it had only junk inside. Only later i noticed the loss in my kill mails.

Personally i think it's an unfairly easy +1 kill.

Why don't these things get protected by concord rules?
Why are you free to get a +1 kill on pilot owned object?

Let's be clear, i have nothing against pilots who do this, it's quite a good income and may lead you to a nice billionare ship kill.

I just want to read other people's opinion on this.

Yea, that sounds stupid. Don't expect any common sense from GD though.

It's not a bug. It's quite consistent.

goon or cfc or whatever you want be called (and you can try to hide your true natue by corp jumping, you still a little sma)

First few replies are so absurd, lol. Way to think like 12 year olds. Come on, I know at least a few of you guys there are more capable than that.

As described via official EVE wiki:
Cargo containers and wrecks are considered valid property just like drones and ships. If you damage either, you are initiating aggression on its owner. If you are not in their corporation, or otherwise allowed to legally engage, then you should be ready for a security hit and Concord intervention.

Based on that explanation, damaging valid property is considered aggression against the owner and thus illicits a CONCORD response. Now, someone please explain to me how an MTU is any different.

i like how the regular " goons pack of sh-it" jump on every post to claim hi sec are too safe.

and before you ask, i never undock so nobody kill my mtu

First few replies are so absurd, lol. Way to think like 12 year olds. Come on, I know at least a few of you guys there are more capable than that.

As described via official EVE wiki:
Cargo containers and wrecks are considered valid property just like drones and ships. If you damage either, you are initiating aggression on its owner. If you are not in their corporation, or otherwise allowed to legally engage, then you should be ready for a security hit and Concord intervention.

Based on that explanation, damaging valid property is considered aggression against the owner and thus illicits a CONCORD response. Now, someone please explain to me how an MTU is any different.

First few replies are so absurd, lol. Way to think like 12 year olds.

As described via official EVE wiki:
Cargo containers and wrecks are considered valid property just like drones and ships. If you damage either, you are initiating aggression on its owner.

Now, someone please explain to me how an MTU is any different.